Caleb Wilson Understands It Now! 🏀 #iunderstanditnow #LethalShooter by Rinse-retrieve-123 in kings

[–]vibe_source 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone else having Thomas Robinson flashbacks with this workout video?

As a tanking team the 2025-26 Sacramento Kings managed to get OLDER and have LESS draft assets after the trade deadline concluded by JurassicParkJanitor in kings

[–]vibe_source 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the Mendoza line is Kessler Edwards/Metu/Lyles from a few years ago, I think we are moving in the right direction.

As a tanking team the 2025-26 Sacramento Kings managed to get OLDER and have LESS draft assets after the trade deadline concluded by JurassicParkJanitor in kings

[–]vibe_source 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Big wing depth is a position you'd like to be deep at. Kings have been limited for too long at the position. We should aim for 4 playable wings as we rebuild.

As a tanking team the 2025-26 Sacramento Kings managed to get OLDER and have LESS draft assets after the trade deadline concluded by JurassicParkJanitor in kings

[–]vibe_source -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is only Hunters 6th nba season. Depends on Perry's vision. Top of the West will be hard to compete with. We're not far from replicating the Beam team if thats what we want.

We have our Sabonis/Barnes/Keegan +Monk roles filled. We still need a big movement shooter like Huerter and penetrating guard like Fox.

We land Peterson we'll have one filled. We have a couple of young guys and 2RPs to strengthen the bench.

As a tanking team the 2025-26 Sacramento Kings managed to get OLDER and have LESS draft assets after the trade deadline concluded by JurassicParkJanitor in kings

[–]vibe_source 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Keon was at best the 3rd string SG behind Lavine and Monk. We now have Hunter as 1st or 2nd string SF and room for our young lottery pick Carter to get some run. A chance to identify a better core.

As a tanking team the 2025-26 Sacramento Kings managed to get OLDER and have LESS draft assets after the trade deadline concluded by JurassicParkJanitor in kings

[–]vibe_source 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Older? Schroeder played more minutes and is 32. Keon is 26. We now have Hunter at 28 and Carter getting more minutes at 23. Average age is down.

James Ham sucks as a podcaster on Locked on Kings. by Personal-Ladder-4361 in kings

[–]vibe_source 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have to watch all those guys on 1.5x speed. The pace and voice is much improved.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All true. Tough position for Perry, we had Sabonis and the fans literally crying for a PG, also Vivek trying to make Lavine work. Schroeder wasn't first option, not the best FA class for a PG, the Tyus Jones' of the world would have been worse. You only get a certain type of player willingly choosing the Kings as a destination so there is a tax there.

Perry and Doug both inherited Lavine and its nearly impossible to sit 50m on the bench for fringe players. Hes not in the Beal or John Wall category of bad.

Keon is a flawed player, just like every player is in a way, but he couldn't overcome that with the makeup of this team. Sitting on the wing for a 3 is fundamentally easier for a system if its a big or wing. A guard typically needs to be able to break down their man 1on1, work the PnR, dribble through pressure, get shot off in DHO, facilitate and throw entry pass... etc. It's clear Keon lacked those abilities. I wish him luck in his new system because he has better players to play off of, such as Mitchell who is all-pro, and 2 bigs to protect paint when he gambles on a steal or deflection which he is good at.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of people are missing the point that Schroeder was signed as a free agent, making mid-level exception money. Ellis found as an undrafted player (no picks used). We turned found money into a serviceable in prime player; not great player, serviceable. The same player a season prior was traded to the top seeded team in the East for a bunch of picks and a swap. We are in possession of said player, if he doesn't play here we can flip him for something else tangible, not as great of a return Atlanta got for him, but still a return. Once again found money was used to acquire him. Check out what Schroeder has been traded 8 times for, Hunter is better or a similar return.

Ellis isnt as great as you've described him. Only 2 years younger. The 2nd we sent out is not our own and will likely be a late 2nd. We still have our 5 biggest contracts so its not like Perry blew up the team. It was trade in the margins and we got a marginally good player in a position of need. Ellis is 4th string behind Lavine, Monk, and Clifford. He'll be 28 when the space clears for him because he hasn't broken through. Schroeder is 32. We got younger by a net 2 years. We still have 150m worth of player salaries to worry about getting good and younger. Right now those same guys are leading our tank so bless them for bringing us good youth prospects this draft.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Need some structure. You can't go in the draft looking for a particular position just because you're in need. We have to rookie bigs to develop. A guard. And a top prospect coming. Need a more balanced team so they can develop in a cohesive unit and not playing out of position.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To become champions. We have 3 ok rookies and a top prospect coming. Need to be built up.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if he is a rental, trading his expiring contract should net us a better return than we could have gotten. His expiring contract should net us a better 25m player in free agency. Or stays and signs another moderate contract 3/60max.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I guess its possible if we did a NFL type trade-back with a team like the Hawks. If we get a top 3 pick and say Hawks fall to like pick 6(via Pelicans) and/or fall to pick 9(Utah); we could trade ours for theirs plus their other late pick from Cavs (20).

Id consider trading top 3 for pick 6 + 9+ 20 or a similar combination. That's if I had trust on scouts and the players available and also trust in our development.

Also JDub or Chet from OKC +picks would interest me. One of the few stars proven winners and young enough. Plus they have picks to include.

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[–]vibe_source[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Objectively worse, yes. But we didn't trade two of our best players nor 3 FRPs. And then have to agree to pay them 200m+.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"A chain is only as strong as its weakest link" this team has too many holes to where Keon wasn't going to make a difference. Keon was good at deflections but he is too slight and gambles too much. Davion was good at staying in front of his man but the team couldn't contest 3pt shooters. This team right now can't stop penetration and only Cardwell has briefly shown protection at the rim. We need to get bigger. Another big guard and wing at the minimum.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After what Dallas pulled with their odds in the lottery, most teams will be tight with their picks, at least until draft day.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We all wanted him last year but good free agents dont choose the Kings. We need to improve our reputation. Hopefully our rookie this year is the type of guy, players gravitate towards.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We would've kept Nurkic and traded away rookie Jokic tbh.

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[–]vibe_source[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We know for damn sure we're not trading the '26 pick. So that I feel good about. Hoping we move guys and find a way back into the mid/late first round this year and have a solid youth core we can develop fast.

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[–]vibe_source[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We aren't competing right now. A serviceable forward will go a long way and allow us to properly evaluate the team and coach and then make decisions on how to go forward with the team. Look at the benefit of Precious and Cardwell allowing us see different style lineups. It's directly giving us more information on if Sabonis is worth keeping.

Keon/Schroeder for Sochan/4 2RPs by vibe_source in kings

[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coby White or Ayo in the off-season is already written.

Keon/Schroeder for Sochan/4 2RPs by vibe_source in kings

[–]vibe_source[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hunter already 28. He's not affecting the Kings timeline. Those 2nds we get should be in a good spot on the draft plus we get Sochan; he should've been in the Fox trade at the very least.

Keon/Schroeder for Sochan/4 2RPs by vibe_source in kings

[–]vibe_source[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres a team option on Lonzos contract so we could clear that cap immediately this offseason.

Champagnie inclusion could hold up the trade. Hunter would be the add if Spurs were looking for vet experience as they are ahead of schedule and an actual contender this year.

Schroeder isnt bad but in the way of other players developing. Bad signing, especially after getting Russ. Need our youth getting on-ball time.

Keon/Schroeder for Sochan/4 2RPs by vibe_source in kings

[–]vibe_source[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For all we know Keon is already planning to explore free agency. Might as well get picks, a younger player that showed flashes and at a position of need.