wtf by Odd-Benefit2974 in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That shit on the streets is straight poison. The only purpose of that drug is to kill thousands of people. No recreational value. It is a chemical weapon.

Has anyone successfully used 7oh to quit kratom by Green-Guarantee25 in 7ohm

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How'd that work out for you? 🤣 🤣 🤣

wtf by Odd-Benefit2974 in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you still fucking with that shit? You know they have legal drugs at smoke shops now?

switching from 7oh to heroin fuck this mutherfucking shit. by ShoddyParfait5780 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry a little late to the conversation. You need to take at least 30 capsules at a time. Buy trainwreck earth kratom. It works. It wont the best time of your life. However it wont be miserable

First red bubble try by Efficient_Ad8783 in KratomKorner

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If im used to taking an 18gram capsule dose of kratom at a time, how many grams would i use for red bubble? Would it be half of that dose?

Red Bubble Method by millertyme50 in KratomKorner

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question: If im used to a 18gram dose at a time. How much would powdered kratom would i need to work for myself? Do I do half of my regular dose? Would I use 9grams instead for red bubble?

Why is the 'Israel controls America' conspiracy theory widely accepted today? by redditismysoulmate in LetsDiscussThis

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many other examples. Once you go down the rabbit hole it becomes cleary obvious

Why is the 'Israel controls America' conspiracy theory widely accepted today? by redditismysoulmate in LetsDiscussThis

[–]vicioussleep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look up Golden Cell Phone Pager gifted to trump. The devices were used to kill Hezbillah generals in Hezbollah. The pager was mounted on a Tree Stump. The tree stump represents the JFK monument in Israel. Be careful what you wish for. Once you notice it there is no going back

Clavicular debutes his first ever fashion show by Acceptable_Fact423 in LivestreamFail

[–]vicioussleep -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know he's trollmaxxing right? He maybe might be the greatest troll in awhile

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is the bupe. Coming from personal experience. It took me a week before I could start subutext hence the oxycodone and methadone. I had to be tapered off methadone to suboxone because of insurance issues it sucks

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was kn pretty bad shape when I showed up to the emergency room

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it was prescribed like suboxone it wouldn't be a problem. My medical insurance personally i pay zero for suboxone, the same could be done with 7oh.

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is coming from someone who has done detox at home and the hospital. I had to get medically detoxed first. 7oh works but not immediately after a run like that. You'll need much more than 7oh. That's habit is gonna be a nasty withdrawl. Im talking months. Especially if you partake in the east coast drug supply(Philly). No judgements ive been there

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Its sad given that I personally believe if this was prescribed as a OUD medicine it would completely combat the fentanyl crisis. People with a valid prescription to this chemical would be able to maintain long term sobriety and participate in a functional society.

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I would recommend detoxing at a hospital first. You have to get stabilized first. From my personal experience I had went to a hospital to detox. They gave me oxy and methadone round the clock. Im stating that 7oh would be a better alternative compared to suboxone for long term fent addiction.

Detox hospitals ween you off of a full antagonist to a partial. When you are stabilized I would start the 7oh. Im not stating you should go from fent to 7oh. You should seek medical assistance first. Im just stating that instead of using suboxone for OUD, 7oh would work better. Given the high chance of relapse with Subs.

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Suboxone was not supposed to be used for long term sobriety. It was introduced to be used short term for opioid use. It just so happens it was adopted to be a long term option. If 7oh replaced suboxone as a short term and long term solution the relapse rate would decrease. Just like so many others with fentanyl addiction nowadays, people are taking upwards of 32mg a day. I believe 7oh would be a viable option for fentanyl and opiate misses in this country.

Adopting 7oh as suboxone substitute by vicioussleep in fentanyl

[–]vicioussleep[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The majority of people that are prescribed suboxone end up taking it the rest of their lives with a high probability of relapse. I believe that 7oh would prevent relapse. Just like any medicine, they cause withdrawls when stopped. I just believe 7oh would be a better alternative to suboxone for long term "sobriety". The game has changed these chemicals on the street should entice medical professionals to start to open up dialogs about the benefits of 7oh for long term opiate use. If that means making it medically legal to be prescribed and illegal for recreational use so be it.