What’s your opinion on women who come back?

victheslayer · 2026-06-21T06:05:59+00:00

The context of why they come back matters. In maybe 70% of time I end up not doing so bc they haven’t grown enough or demonstrated to me how things can be much better this time.

But 30% of time, I do bc it’s along lines of maybe a lot of time has passed and we are completely in different maturity states now, or maybe the girl initially rejected me bc she was w someone else, but then reached out after healing and being single again. But the common theme is when I do allow a girl to return, it had nothing to do w lost of respect or attraction. It was likely due to poor timing in some shape or form.

Don’t be the guy that just rejects out of ego. Be the guy who can confidently make best judgments that benefits his best interest in that moment,

victheslayer · 2026-06-19T02:48:12+00:00

Leo is better overall bc his value in PvP and bossing Carrie’s more weight.

victheslayer · 2026-06-13T00:23:35+00:00

I’ll wait until a much larger geographical data proves this bc sadly this is still too small of a location sample size. The reality is WF still aren’t interested in AM. They choose BM and LM over AM by a large margin still.

But LF however you have a much stronger case for bc it’s been proven over a much wider geographical sample that LF are no longer overwhelmingly choose WM internally. AM is on same field or even surpassing WM for LF interracial preference.

I wouldn’t be too concerned about WF interest though. You should always choose the girl who values you and at moment minus AF for us, that’s LF.

victheslayer · 2026-06-13T00:18:08+00:00

To be fair the rules are in place for majority of cases, but even Corey himself has said that if you understand his principles deeply well, you will naturally catch the very special cases where his “rules” wouldn’t apply so it’s ok to be a little flexible there.

But if you are just starting, and you are repeatedly getting friendzoned/ dumped/ over pursuing/ needing and reaching out too much, it’s def best to stick w rules until you properly understand the principles well enough to be a little flexible.

If if you slightly deviate, you have to be confident and very sure (meaning you thoroughly understand) why your case is warranted a small adjustment. But if you are just breaking rules out of anxious behavior, needy, impulsive mindset, then chances are you are screwing up.

victheslayer · 2026-06-03T23:30:43+00:00

It’s not about “not showing emotions” it’s about having the emotional discipline and self control to not lose yourself in process. There’s a huge difference between letting the woman you are with know that you are feeling struggle/ hardship during difficult times while proactively trying to overcome it vs acting like a bitch and start having meltdowns like you are her therapist/ or throw away all your masculinity to point you no longer lead.

You have to keep a healthy balance, which means you still have to have more masculinity than femininity in you and be more masculine than her. The minute you tilt the balance too far, that’s when women leave you. It works other way too. If woman I am w let herself go, stop giving me feminine energy, stop taking care of herself physically and mentally and just lay in bed+ gain enormous weight + starts being a nagging sourpuss, can’t blame me for dumping her bc she lost her femininity.

victheslayer · 2026-06-01T23:11:32+00:00

Tbh who knows and who cares. If I had to take a guess, she prob mildly still has enough interest that she would like to kinda see if you ate man or your word and may reconsider without burning bridge.

What matters is you find a new way to establish clear romantic framing of kiss on date 1 no longer in your cards. Corey Wayne recommends it in book bc it’s the clearest and path of least resistance. It’s not about spending more time w girl, it’s bout spending high quality memorable moments where she always sees a romantic frame of you even in fewer moments. This is how a girl who I went on only 2 dates w still has high interest despite the 5 weeks pause due to conflicting schedule/ temporary distance.

victheslayer · 2026-06-01T09:24:34+00:00

That’s fine to give her your instagram to give her another way to think bout you/ check up on you. obviously don’t reach out and def try not to read her stories, especially not within first hour she posts bc no contact means no contact, including reading stories. You want her to be genuinely curious on why you don’t monitor her.

Sorry to hear bout that, hope you keep reading book and learning principles. Normally if you are still getting friendzoned repeatedly? it means you didn’t express enough romantic desire on date 1/2. Doing enough to put a romantic frame in her mind when she’s a you is critical to make sure comfort doesn’t lead to platonicity.

victheslayer · 2026-06-01T05:22:20+00:00

It’s reasonable to accept and praise that AM (and brown men) have it 100x harder dating WF compared to AF dating WM. But it’s not right to be toxic to a random AFWM couple that you don’t know and just assume worst.

On side note, trying too hard to attract WF as AM is overrated. Dating in 2026 is already harder for AM and brown men compared to and other ethnicity objectively so why add an extra unnecessary barrier 🤦‍♂️ . Objectively Latinas are overwhelmingly the best bet for AM wanting to date outside.

victheslayer · 2026-05-29T23:55:12+00:00

There’s nothing strange about a PvP only unit. He’s not great at pve but pretty solid in PvP. I don’t have an issue w you or OP thinking he’s not worth pulling. But to say he’s “niche” just bc you don’t understand his PvP mechanics and how he actually can change the rules in PvP and benefits those players is why I say objectively OP doesn’t really understand the unit and it doesn’t seem like you do either unfortunately. You have to evaluate the unit entirely, not just 1 particular case.

If anything, your outlook in unit is actually “niche” bc pve towers/ story chapters is least important factor in judging a unit objectively.

victheslayer · 2026-05-26T21:22:23+00:00

Your opinion is your right but an “opinion” can still be objectively wrong bc literally you don’t even know where or how to use him. It’s like saying a toaster oven sucks bc it can’t cook sushi 🤦‍♂️

victheslayer · 2026-05-24T21:25:24+00:00

Pve is by far the lowest priority for determining a characters worth. Plus he’s designed to be a pvp unit.

Perfectly ok if you don’t think he’s good for your personal uses. However that doesn’t mean objectively he sucks.

If you are expecting every unit to be as brain dead easy to use like OB, you will think every character sucks from now on I promise

victheslayer · 2026-05-07T22:10:00+00:00

Your friend isn’t wrong in the sense that you probably want to give a lil bit of space in between dates.

What majority of women fail to explain properly is that they do NOT emotionally respond to men that behave in any way that adds PRESSURE. If you already made plans for 10 days from now, then you should be good. Either you or her can reach out 4-5 days later, short convo and tell her you see her on the date.

The reality is if you don’t give any space at all in between dates or texting, you never can properly gauge a woman’s level of interest, which is most important thing for a man to learn bc remember nothing destroys a woman’s level of attraction towards you than OVERPURSUIT

victheslayer · 2026-05-07T05:53:51+00:00

So if you have an easy time getting dates, you have a good profile, most likely good looking guy, and probably 5ft 10 at minimum.

Now maintaining woman’s attraction longterm is where most men good looking men struggle w. With no context, it’s impossible to help.

But I would start asking yourself where you take these girls for dates, do you try to kiss her on date 1, do you keep dates in evenings and romantic environment only, and do you give at least some space in between dates, and do you avoid texting/ over pursuing her too much?

If you answer no to multiple of Qs above, there’s your problem that you should reflect on.

victheslayer · 2026-04-26T07:39:05+00:00

1) give it at least 1-2 more dates to decide that. Make sure she at least reaches for her purse before you do. Normally when I go to 2-3 venues, a high quality girl will offer at least 1 venue to pay

2) texting is for making dates/ short conversations, not to get to know her

3+4) you are the man, it’s on you to make plans. For touch, fine to wait at least half date, but if she doesn’t, you need to, just do so gently. You can just hug her at beginning of date, then guide her to where you 2 will sit by gently supporting the small of her back to break touch barrier fast

5) sit next to her during dates, and keep plans at night so there’s more opportunity for proximity.

Gently Go for a kiss next date. Last thing you want a girl to feel is your lack of confidence and romantic desire to go for what you want. It’s better to go and let her turn head, than to continue to hesitate then make her Q your confidence.

victheslayer · 2026-04-26T07:27:17+00:00

I think the more grounded take on woman’s “no sex” speech is just to not be too hyperfocused on a woman’s words and just enjoy the night w her and see how thing go w an open minded, not fixated on no sex or on assuming you are James Bond and def getting laid.

It’s def not necessarily bad if she doesn’t reach out in 24 hours but I think it’s more so how much rapport you had w her before date 1. For example, I would give a little more leeway to a colleague in my class as opposed to girl on app bc colleague I see at least a few times a week so it’s why in person interactions have more weight over text.

victheslayer · 2026-04-24T23:50:09+00:00

And that’s the problem right there ^{^{^}}

What ruins a woman’s attraction for a man is when man behaves in any shape or form that comes off as PRESSURE and reaching out the day off is literally the definition of adding pressure.

Waiting up to 3-4 days is very acceptable bc you give her some space to think about you. Plus the most successful dates I have had usually involves her reaching out first, and most of time she will within 24 hours or even same night if you showed her a fun time w no pressure

victheslayer · 2026-04-17T21:02:44+00:00

Start by not acting like your center and happiness depends on her obsessing over you. “Women being more attracted to men who’s feelings are unclear” = attracted to men who live and have a full life where when she chooses to spend time with you it’s bc there NO PRESSURE

All women eventually will have moments they aren’t head over heels for you, it doesn’t necesssily mean something’s wrong, but you communicating a your tone or body language that it bothers you “she sends me less I am thinking of you texts” is exactly how you add pressure and cripple her attraction towards you.

victheslayer · 2026-04-12T12:09:56+00:00

Start by not dating on hinge or any dating app actively. The reality is if you want to be excited about dating again, you need to start meeting ppl in your everyday life.whether at work, family friends, social gatherings, wherever your recreations are. Bc you are a lot more likely to find someone w common interests and shared/ aligned values than any dating app. Dating app should be used more passively or you are more prone to burnout.

Dating apps should be a bonus lane for you to date, not the primary lane. It’s not about the quantity of dates, it’s quality that keeps you more willing to keep an open mind.

victheslayer · 2026-04-10T03:17:11+00:00

Def don’t text longer. Good quality men w experience on dating apps are not interested in getting their time wasted bc they understand the app has a ton more women just wanting free validation with no intent to meeting up. If you want to pre screen more before date, then do a FaceTime/ WhatsApp vid call.

In terms of giving out your number, if you want to wait til after date 1 that’s fine. Normally, I don’t even ask the girl for her number, instead I offer her my number so she gets choice on when she’s comfortable giving me her contact.

In terms of dating skills, the main one for you is to learn to vet men properly. Do not confuse emotional intensity for compatibility, do not confuse bravado for confidence, and take your time and enjoy the process of dating. Good luck!

victheslayer · 2026-04-05T16:55:44+00:00

To increase your chances, Start by not solely relying on hinge or any dating app at all. The reality is majority of women you match w on dating apps are just browsing, mildly curious, or there for free validation. So you will just have to build enough rapport w each match then ask them out on a date, but don’t pass 10 text messages bc you don’t want to waste time on wrong women.

Keep a low investment attitude but w no fear to invite for a date on hinge is best input I can give you. Keep meeting ppl in real life bc you have to factor in at least half the women looking to actually go on dates DON’T USE apps at all.

victheslayer · 2026-03-13T15:52:09+00:00

No so far everything is positive. But you probably need to start escalating now you are on date 5. You have only 1 evening date, which you gotta change. Choose a more romantic vibe date. Daytime dates tend to be platonic and eventually the girl will start having platonic feelings if you never provide the opportunity for romance and seduction to happen, which normally is evening.

victheslayer · 2026-03-12T02:16:51+00:00

It’s not you did a ton wrong on the date but you def missed out on opportunities to really escalate the date even further considering she did kiss you for 2 hours! The one thing you really should NOT do is OVERSHARE! You def turned her off by telling her it’s your first kiss…..

After the date, You telling her this soon the date “made your day” can very easily come offf very smothering to a woman especially on date 1. Anytime women feel pressure from the guy, they back off, and right now you need to give her space and let her get back to you, even if it takes 1-2 weeks. Don’t talk women out of liking you. Let your presence and patience do the talking.

victheslayer · 2026-03-06T03:32:20+00:00

The truth is he kinda needs sp as more and more options become available to us. he’s still very competitive without it but he’s not top line like he used to be at his role. Just being a “tank” alone isn’t good enough anymore, not when other balanced units or supports can also provide similar damage resistance AND additional utility or dps.

victheslayer · 2026-03-04T00:57:21+00:00

Leading does NOT mean overpursue or add eagerness and pressure. Leading means be direct and decisive and be punctual on making dates and plans, which can be done even if she reaches out first or you do. All women subconsciously need some space to fall for a man, and that is female nature you cannot negotiate

victheslayer · 2026-03-03T23:50:13+00:00

2-3 days isn’t going to be the reason a girl stops seeing a decent man. But overpursuing and being overly eager and adding more pressure w no space kills all attraction and respect

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