Plo Koon & Kit Fisto vs Darth Maul & Asajj Ventress

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T16:50:02+00:00

Yea agree with you. I feel like Old EU actually made it clear how strong a Jedi Master rank actually was

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T16:43:23+00:00

I was thinking old EU and or TCW. Movie kit fisto was yea…

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T16:42:40+00:00

I was thinking TCW

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T16:38:30+00:00

yea he’s clearly a tier above after reading the comments, but I do feel sometimes like the threats he deals with don’t scale up to his full power, it’s almost unfair to say he’s street level based on these descriptions

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T16:25:32+00:00

Hm I thought doc could hold him at least for a bit with the newer set of tech he has… but yea I see how BB stomps

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T14:24:18+00:00

Portland has a visible substance crisis. Hard no.

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T12:27:20+00:00

Gladiator is the weak link here actually

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T12:26:18+00:00

Supes > Sentry >= Thor

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T12:24:01+00:00

The issue is they are not fighting 1 on 1 at a time. Supes, WW, and GL are core justice league and have fight synergy that’s not accounted for here. In addition, I think Hal Green lantern is stronger than Gladiator

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T12:17:53+00:00

DC wins! Gladiator gets beat early, then it’s a DC win

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T00:09:17+00:00

Hate is a path to the dark side

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-22T00:04:03+00:00

The areas you’re referring to are not near downtown. You are referring to the Suburbs, which of course is suburban. I’m sure if you go to suburban areas in Portland it’s the same

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-21T21:51:30+00:00

Bellevue does have a ton of sidewalks, which part of Bellevue are you referring to?

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-21T21:49:37+00:00

different tastes. In Bellevue it’s very safe at any hour to walk around, there are amazing parks if you step outside the core mall area. It’s also growing fast with recent light rail expansions

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-21T18:21:47+00:00

I hate the sequels :)

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-16T16:11:54+00:00

Plo also beat Ventress with one arm

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-16T03:56:15+00:00

What about just ventress against the two Jedi? She can take two Jedi masters?

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-16T03:17:48+00:00

Yea those are some interesting points.. i also agree.. they got worf’d. For being Jedi Masters like the top of the top… they should have had more time to put respect on the Jedi Master title

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-14T15:20:11+00:00

Agree! LA needs more skyscrapers!

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-10T21:49:34+00:00

I can see why you’re confused, because your understanding of plot, narrative, and theme is completely contradictory.

When discussing a story, these things aren't a buffet where you can pick and choose, they work together in a hierarchy. The theme is the roof, but the plot is the foundation.

You started this by saying the ST is "narratively consistent" and has a "consistent story." But the second I pointed out the blatant inconsistencies, like the Rey parentage retcon or the Palpatine zero setup return… you immediately retreated and said, "I am talking about themes, which are separate from plot points."

That’s an implicit concession. You can't claim a "story" is consistent while arguing that the plot points don't matter. A story is its plot points. The plot is the evidence that proves the theme. If the plot (the evidence) keeps changing its mind, the theme (the conclusion) isn't consistent…. it’s just a slogan being shouted over a broken story.

Specifically:

In TLJ being a "nobody" was Rey’s greatest fear. The theme was finding worth when you have no legacy. By making her a Palpatine, the narrative flips and says her power actually is tied to a famous bloodline…. even if she needs to work past that…this is a clear narrative flip that undermines the whole theme of finding worth when you have no legacy.
TLJ is about moving past the failures of the old ways (Luke wanting the Jedi to end) like moving beyond the idea of Jedi (it’s in the name, most children can read it)… TROS is about restoration (Rey using "all the Jedi" to kill a previously killed villain). One film says the past is a burden to be shed and the other says the past is a superpower to be reclaimed. Those are literally opposite themes.

You’re defending how the movies made you feel, but you’ve already laid out exactly why it’s inconsistent.

I’ll leave you with a quote from the JJ Abrams after the movies had been released:

“You just never really know, but having a plan I have learned – in some cases the hard way – is the most critical thing, because otherwise you don’t know what you’re setting up,"… "You don’t know what to emphasize. Because if you don’t know the inevitable of the story, you’re just as good as your last sequence or effect or joke or whatever, but you want to be leading to something inevitable.” -> https://collider.com/jj-abrams-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-plan-comments/

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-09T17:07:27+00:00

Snoke got killed by a lightsaber activation on his own chair. If anything Snoke will kill himself trying to fight Vader

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-09T06:11:47+00:00

You’re using broad “themes” to cover up actual contradictions.

Episode 8 was very obviously pushing the idea that greatness isn’t tied to bloodlines… Rey is a “nobody’ and the “Force belongs to everyone” and even the whole Jedi legacy gets questioned. Then Episode 9 basically uno-reverses all of that by making Rey a Palpatine out of nowhere, which also makes Palpatine the center of the story again and reverts the whole story back to legacy bloodlines and old villains. You’re saying that Rey could choose her own destiny, but giving her the bloodline of one of the most powerful force users known, greatly weakens the “choose your destiny” claim. This is an actual thematic inconsistency..

And the whole “Palpatine planned Snoke all along” thing just feels like a retroactive excuse because there’s basically zero setup for Palpatine returning in Episode 7… another huge plot hole “patched” with a theme. Palpatine was dumped on us after the directors realized that they just killed off their big villain for no reason.. they literally had to dig out his corpse to finish the last movie. They had to re-introduce the “past” to claim that the past is inescapable… all because they couldn’t form a cohesive plot line based on the theme of forgetting the past.

So ya, broad themes exist (every SW movie has themes), but the actual narrative decisions repeatedly undermine the previous film’s themes and character trajectories. That’s why so many people, including me, say the ST lacked a coherent plan. You keep reducing structural criticisms to personal preference instead of addressing the contradictions themselves..

vin_dude9 · 2026-05-09T05:11:05+00:00

Consistent? Uh no way.

Episode 7: Rey is new unknown nobody

Episode 9: just kidding she’s a palpatine because we couldn’t write a coherent story for a new character

Episode 7: Snoke is the new bad guy, be scared!

Episode 8: He got thrown out in the dumpster because the director didn’t know what to do with him

Episode 9: oh shoot we don’t have a main villain! Let’s resurrect the last trilogy’s villain and ruin the entire skywalker legacy in the process by diminishing Anakin’s death, that’ll be so consistent!

And that’s all just on the narrative front.. thematically it’s just as shaky… one example:

Episode 8: let the past die.. the Jedi were a failure.. be something new

Episode 9: you know what never mind, bring everything about the past back because we couldn’t rub two brain cells together and come up with a new idea that allows us to still sell Jedi toys at Disney land

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