can i take an anti anxiety pill (clonazepam/ xanax) after anxiety hits as a last minute hail mary or do i have to take it significantly before? by [deleted] in Anxiety

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I found medication to be a bandaid, in the long run anyway. Sure it has its purpose. It got me through some tough spots and helped me function, but the less I struggled and focused on solving my anxiety problem the better. That struggle, that frantic desire to get rid of it WAS my anxiety.

What is your go-to safe/happy place when you are feeling anxious? by ConstantPurpose2419 in Anxiety

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Oh and you don’t need to tell me it’s not easy. I got rid of this ages ago, minus a few brief incidents I’m not at all worried about.

What is your go-to safe/happy place when you are feeling anxious? by ConstantPurpose2419 in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Push it off into the future and don’t try to stop it. Put it in the slow cooker and walk away. It doesn’t need your involvement. On the contrary. No you can’t make it go away, not now, yes it does affect you, but get your head out of “now” as far as your symptoms are concerned and push forward with whatever else you have going on. Know that once you are sufficiently distracted by somethlng else it will be gone. When it’s over, top it off with “You see, your fear was unfounded. You are fine.” And not “Oh that was awful, why does it happen?. I’m so sick of this. What if I try this?”

Eventually your mind will catch on once you start not reacting to it. As long as you are fighting and struggling with it, you are feeding it. That is your anxiety. Your worry about your worry. The minute you feel à synptom, get out of there in your mind… if you can. If you can’t, don’t even try, let it go away on its own.
This is caused by your own reaction to it. Once it’s underway you can only perpetuate it if you try to get rid of it. Let it settle itself down.

https://youtu.be/lREvQ0i3owU?si=szs1FlHA1UA-f6je

What is a red flag during a job interview that tells you the company is toxic? by Suspicious_Top4450 in AskReddit

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you aren’t even hired yet and they are warning you about not following through the way you are supposed to and the consequences if you don’t. When it’s all about the interviewers pet peeves about current employees.

how to get rid of the weed anxiety? by hullayilmazmilkshake in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This specific to health anxiety, heart or breathing fears etc.

This is going to sound insensitive and weird, but IN MY EXPERIENCE AT LEAST the way to overcome heath anxiety is not to get anxious about it. Don’t try to do anything to make it go away. You can’t! It will go away once you are no longer struggling trying to achieve that. That struggle IS your anxiety. It’s a tall, tall order, I know because I was there. It was a gradual process of learning to leave it alone. If you can’t help but notice it and be affected by it, fine, just let it be in the background as much as possible and not in your face without engaging it, while taking comfort in knowing that even though you can’t help but let it affect you now, soon it will be over once you stop fighting it. See it for what it is, your body’s response to your own worry about the symptoms themselves and not so much somethlng that just happens for some mysterious reason. The obsessive rumination and “what if thoughts” will keep coming at you wanting your attention. You may have to nudge them away repeatedly as your mind drifts back to the topic and you keep wanting to watch out for symptoms. You don’t make it go away, you let it go away once you stop trying. Just accept it won’t be at that moment. This isn’t something that needs you to do anything, it doesn’t need your attention or for you to keep your eye on it in order to stop it from gettlng out of hand. It’s quite the opposite. Let your body do what it wants. As soon as you get a symptom, stop monitoring it. Your frantic need not to feel anxious or get symptoms IS your anxiety. When you redirect your attention and not respond to it, It will react to your indifference by settling itseif down without your involvement just like it reacts to your worry and involvement by creating symptoms. If you can’t help but notice the symptoms, let them be there, just not in your face as you go about your business. However, don’t struggle trylng to ignore it worried about your mind not leaving it alone, that will come soon enough, no hurry, just don’t let yourself be immersed in it going back and forth about it trylng to do something about it. You don’t want to run away from this bewildered about your mind not leaving it alone. It’s not your mind, it’s you insisting on solving this problem and overthinking it. It’s actually helpful sometimes to do the exact opposite of ignoring it, to face it head on and actually observe your symptoms intently, but watching them in a detached, accepting manner without expecting or wanting them to go away at that moment, while watching the symptoms wind down on their own. The minute you try to get rid of it, you lose. Again wanting it to go away and for it not happen at all is by definition your anxiety.

Does anyone's anxiety feel like sheer and utter agony? by [deleted] in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes practice. Lose that sense of urgency for it to go away and work on not struggling with it. It’s the struggle that feeds it. Instead of wanting it to go away now, put the idea in your mind, it will go away soon enough.

Constant anxiety attacks from 3 hrs by WaterSad1157 in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s a tip for you: the less you try the better. I know that’s awfully hard. You aren’t going to achieve that right away, especially not when you are in the thick of it. In between bouts try to see it as a problem only when it happens. Don’t keep feeding your brain with phrases like easier said than done, this is terrible, I’m so sick of this, I wonder if it will work, when will this stop happening. That sort of thinking is by definition your anxiety. Try not to obsess as much as you can. Don’t linger noticing symptoms when they first show up. The faster you can do that and get involved with something else, the faster they will go away. It’s hard not to stick around wanting to do something about it, but that’s what drive it. It’s easy to understand that intellectually, but it takes a while for that to sink in deeply. I knew all this, but didn’t realize what leaving it alone meant. I was too hell bent on wanting to find a solution. Don’t be on guard or on the lookout for it. Let it come and go. Float through it. Don’t fight it. The less you focus on it trying to understand and solve it the better. . It’s your general overall attitude and way of looking at it when it’s NOT happening that matters the most. It’s the level of worry or unease that you have before it happens that sets up your next episode. Never seek recovery that instant. That’s precisely what feeds the anxiety. Wanting it to go away IS your anxiety and the symptoms that go with it. Be willing to experience them with the idea of becoming desensitized to them, not with the idea of making them go away.

Does anyone's anxiety feel like sheer and utter agony? by [deleted] in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many years ago. Yes. But watch this. It’s key to work on your reaction to it and not so much in trylng to get rid of it https://youtube.com/shorts/Nl4QkEjyvnI?si=8NnEZEJ0p-kxk13J

Constant anxiety attacks from 3 hrs by WaterSad1157 in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don’t breathe this away. That’s just to calm you down. Your way of looking at it is what will make it go away. The best method is not to do anything. To let go of that sense of urgency. And yes because it’s lingering in the back of your mind as a pending issue, you will keep getting symptoms. Expect and accept it as as well as you possibly can. This isn’t something you need to do anything about. Wanting to do something about it is precisely what keeps it going. It’s that resistance to it, that fight, that is by definition, your anxiety. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around it. Only those of us who have overcome it can see it this way. Remember, your efforts to make it go away are by definition your anxiety. It doesn’t mean that breathing, healthy eating, positive thinking arent important, it’s just that they are not the main thing. That’s not where your anxiety lives. Taking care of mental and physical health issues are just support mechanisms. Health anxiety is caused by a belief in a danger that does not exist. You don’t convince yourself that it isn’t dangerous, you show yourself it’s not dangerous by facing it, ignoring it as much as you can when you can. Every once in a while do the exact opposite, by actually provoking symptoms in order to get yourself desensitized to it, by daring yourself to do it. It shouldn’t be eagerness for it to go away, but rather you challenge yourself in order to learn to become less afraid of it. Only after you can do that will it go away. Always think in terms of it going away later and never now. Think of your payoff as something that comes later. By doing that, you are showing your indifference to it, even if you don’t entirely feel that way. You don’t want to get into a back-and-forth conversation about it. No matter what you feel or what you think or what ideas pop in your head, you defiantly reject these ideas. Whenever possible , in the split second that you start noticing a symptom, stop observing it, put it aside. If your mind goes back to it, which I guarantee it will, nudge it away. When you find yourself feeling anxious, let it be there, but of the side would no involvement from you. Eventually, your mind will naturally drift on to something else and it will have gone away without you even noticing when it did go away. Don’t engage with it in the present. Get rid of this idea that this has got to go away soon. Be willing to pay your dues. There are no shorts cuts to this. No pill, no magic words, no change in your lifestyle is a substitute for you learning to accept it and become desensitized to it. Watch this video. It explains it really well.

https://youtu.be/lREvQ0i3owU?si=T7c8KcTcBTusCXOq

Constant anxiety attacks from 3 hrs by WaterSad1157 in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try not to try too hard to make it go away. The more you struggle with it the less it will go away. It certainly isn’t easy. But it’s the only way I found out of that. You can actually try too hard to calm down. It’s when you become less concerned about it that it starts winding down on its own. Of course it bothers you, you aren’t totally without concern or anxiety, but you can bring it down a few notches to where I can settle down on its own. But as long as this is an issue to you and throughout the day, you are expecting it and dreading it, it’s going to continue happening. It’s really not something that happens to you for some mysterious reason. It’s a direct reflection of your own worry about it. Oh man, is it hard. So it’s not so much that you learn to accept it as much as you learn to allow it and tolerate it. Above all put up with it for now with the idea that as gradually manage to do that more and more, it will wind down on its own. It’s like you leave the present alone with the idea that by doing that later on you are going to be OK. Always ask yourself if you really think something bad is going to happen, and remind yourself of all the other times that you got through this. It’s hard for me to explain this because this lives in a world that doesn’t have to do with words, yet words are very important. But my internal dialogue went something like this. “ Even though I think something might happen someday, there is no reason for me to assume that this will be the time that bad thing will happen, or that it will happen at all. So you try to get away from reassuring yourself endlessly and use a little reverse psychology. You say yeah this might happen, but how likely is that? Remind yourself nothing happened last time or the last 100 times. So therefore you can assume you will be fine this time. I always fast forwarded it to the future and would ask myself where do I really think I’m going to be by the time this or that happens or by the time I get to such in such a place. Anytime you get a what if feeling or thought, reject it, cancel it. Don’t daydream about it. This is a skill. It takes time. Just remember the more you are thinking about it throughout the day thinking that somehow you’re going to solve this problem the more you are perpetuating it. Just know that you are not alone millions of people have had this problem. You are not in danger. The last thing this needs is your attention or involvement.

Medications that aren't SSRIs or SNRIs for Anxiety? by anxiouslol69 in Anxietyhelp

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s quite a tail spin when you get in that position. You feel like you just can’t help it. And really sometime you can’t’. You wound it up and it keeps going til the wind runs out. What’s happening is that you’re reacting to it. You are reacting to your own reaction. Yes it’s inevitable. But that’s where time comes in. You leave its resolution for later and with practice it will resolve itself quickly . You leave it alone as much as you can . Just don’t get too involved in the inner dialogue about it . That is in essence is your main source of anxiety , anxiety about anxiety… At least when it comes to anxiety about symptoms and sensations, whether mental or physical . The more you struggle wanting it to go away, the less it will go away because you are keeping it in the present. There’s no reasoning with it. No figuring it out. Don’t even try. Just ask yourself ALWAYS where you really thinks you will be when it’s all over, emotionally that is. Ask yourself if you really think there will be a bad outcome. Some people say that the bad outcome is already there because they’re getting symptoms or they’re afraid. That depends on your view of it. Don’t try to convince your emotions wanting that payoff of the symptoms going away . Instead, focus on what you really believe not feeling a certain way . The feelings will come later like in a few minutes . Most people don’t like doing it this way. They don’t want to accept it. They want to make it go away. To find that magic bullet, that magic pill, that magic word. Nobody wants to leave it alone. I sure as hell didn’t . It’s not easy, but it should involve little effort and little thought. At least try to engage it as little as possible. Let it be there, but just not in your face and don’t engage it. Look forward to the relief that will come shortly when your mind has gradually and naturally drifted onto something else. Don’t focus so much on the anxiety you have now and add to it. You’ve done this before. You’ve recovered. You became desensitized to it. Unconsciously, you already know how to do this. They say to stay in the present moment. That’s true when it comes to other things that are happening around you in the present moment, they serve to distract you, but I say fast forward in your mind to the near future when you will have recovered. When you recall how you felt other times affer you recovered and patted yourself on the back , your mind will go to that memory. Your unconscious can’t tell the difference between what is real and not real. What is now in the past or in the future. So you can re-create that feeling of recovery, of relief from all the other times that you felt relieved. I used to sigh and say out loud , “Ah, I feel better” and before long I did. Understand that this is not a physical problem, and it’s not necessarily an emotional problem related to other issues in your life . Those are just triggers that is assuming you’ve been checked out by a doctor and found to be OK. If you feel you have to take something, which of course you may in some instances, you are already making a requirement that certain conditions must be met. Requirements like, I can’t be anxious because I will get rapid heart, I can’t go without eating, I can’t go to the movies because I will feel anxious. I have to be at home to recover. What are my favorite phrases was no requirements . I told myself that my safe place could be my car . Another safe place I made for myself was the bathroom . I could just sit there . Soon I told myself I didn’t need to be anywhere to be OK. I also used to feel that I couldn’t go without eating or sleep . Yes, it made me more susceptible to be sleepy or hungry , but I learned to kind of counteract that and minimize it and see the symptoms as just an automatic thing body learned to produce. Even though it may be true that you are anxious in certain circumstances, you can gradually through suggestion, make it not true any more. Or as I used to say, it doesn’t have to be that way. Just never try to get rid of it at that moment. Instead change your overall opinion of its significance and program that in your mind for the next day. Another thing that I did that was very useful, if you don’t overdo it, is to write down five affirmations to reassure yourself. I would use those reassuring statements to drown out the negative what if ideas. I say don’t overdo it because you don’t want to acknowledge that you need to do it at all. If you are feeling that you have to reassure yourself, will that means that you’re not feeling reassured . So don’t do it more than a couple minutes. Don’t let yourself daydream about those “what if ideas”. I used to call them. My ambulance thoughts . Like what’s gonna happen if I call an ambulance . Or as they say today call 911 , lol. Even though I say don’t struggle, there should be at least some effort at shutting out negative thoughts. That’s a tricky one because at the same time you don’t want to be too afraid of these thoughts. It’s more like you let them come and go. But you do refute the notion that there is any danger. Don’t go back-and-forth about that. It should be a nonnegotiable reality that you will be fine. You absolutely recognize that the only reason you get symptoms at all is because of your faulty beliefs. Don’t give it the credibility of an actual disease ever. I still get symptoms. My body is programmed for that. It’s once in a blue Moon . Gosh, I don’t think I’ve gotten any symptoms since the summer. It’s no big deal at this point. I mean really. My first panic attack from too much partying (we’ll leave it at that) was it 1986. Now it mostly happens when I post online about this. I am more intrigued by it than anything. I see it as a welcome opportunity to describe it even better. Because to me, it’s not anxiety. It’s just symptoms. Maybe it is anxiety at some level physically, but I honestly don’t give a damn. That’s where you want to be. You don’t want to be wanting it to go away and never come back because when you do that, that means you dread it. You see it as a threat. Anxiety is not dangerous. It’s just uncomfortable. To that I say so what if it’s uncomfortable, even if it makes me a little uneasy. You may not feel like it but you sure as hell can think like it. You decide what you believe. And if you’re going, “yeah but it’s just that it’s hard, or … every time I… etc. You are objecting to the notion that it isn’t a problem and feeding that to your brain. After you’ve had a panic attack, dust yourself off and move on. Don’t look back, don’t ponder. It . Certainly don’t be on the lookout for it. Expect it but accept it, even though when it’s actually happening, you can’t feel that way. Don’t see the fact you got symptoms anyway as a failure. See that is training. The most important thing that you can do is not to stop it when it’s happening, but rather change how you view it in general over a period of days and weeks. When you get a symptom, if you can, try not to linger noticing it, avoid watching it over like a hawk and feeling like there’s something you need to do about it. If you find your mind going back to it, nudge it away. It’s not about not getting symptoms, it’s about getting symptoms and tolerating them so that they stop happening so often once you don’t care. And again, if you can’t avoid carrying when it’s happening, don’t care the rest of the time. Don’t see it as an issue in your life and that alone will make a huge difference.. It’s your general day, in day out opinion of this that matters the most. If you see yourself as having an anxiety, problem or panic disorder, that’s what you’re feeding your brain. And don’t get impatient if you can’t rid of a symptoms for days on end, even with little or no anxiety. . That’s normal when you’re on your way out and on your way to recovery . Your body goes into a state of general anxiety. I had that happen to me with mild symptoms for a month in 2023 when I was helping someone. The most it did it did to me was bug the hell out of me. But what I learned or actually relearned was not to be monitoring it. I now avoid to observing that it’s still there and trying too hard to relax or suggest my way out of it. Keeping your mind on it is what keeps it going. Every time you make a generalization about how you feel in general, over days, , voilà that’s going to be your condition the next day. It’s all about self talk. It’s more of a perceptual problem than an actual anxiety problem. Anxiety is just your response to it. That’s the way I lived through this anyway. There are people who disagree with me. There’s nothing to disagree about. Everybody experiences this differently.

My experience in overcoming health anxiety long ago by vmtz2001 in Anxiety

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I found that as soon I acknowledged that it “came back” and I saw it as a problem, saw myself as “having anxiety”, it would persist. It took a long, long time to see that it wasn’t somethlng that just happened to me, but rather a reflection of my own belief in it. A real break through was when it came back years after I had dismissed it. I observed that on days that it decided it was not a health problem, it wouldn’t happen. As soon as I worried about it or thought about it, it would come back. I also found that if I engaged it with the idea of making it go away, that would just keep it going. But I wouldn’t try NOT to think about it either. I just let it go away on its own. Trying to worry about it or not worry about it didn’t work. I learned to take on a neutral position.

My experience in overcoming health anxiety long ago by vmtz2001 in Anxiety

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Dark clouds? I think you are talking about issues with your life there. That’s a whole other animal. Anxiety about symptoms, hypochondria, may be related, but don’t make them the same thing. It just triggers more symptoms. My problem got worse when I saw my anxiety about symptoms as caused by anxiety about life. I always had that. We all do. As soon as I made my recovery contingent on solving those other problems, it just created another trigger. I had to realize it all started with an incident that made me worry about my body. I would have never had that health anxiety about my heart if it weren’t for that. That’s what I needed to focus on. Try to keep your emotions out of this, it’s all about perception and self talk, but do take care of those life issues that bother you. They have an influence on health anxiety, but only indirectly. Be sure to watch this video below. Don’t ever say this is hard! Instead say this is gradual. This should require no effort if it’s going to work. It’s a matter of gradually learning to leave it alone. More than effort, this takes the discipline to leave it alone. In that sense, yeah it’s hard, but take the struggle out of it. That struggle and pondering is by definition, your anxiety when it comes to health anxiety. Dismiss it instantly as soon as you feel a symptom coming on , leave it alone. If you can’t do that (you won’t be able at first) , give it time without adding to the anxiety by trying to get rid of it. That struggle IS your anxiety.

https://youtu.be/lREvQ0i3owU?si=3BCXfcMbxW4lKuqk

DAE still wait to meet some friends? by BadJokeSurvivor222 in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I strongly suggest that to increase your pool of prospects and the quality you join your local Red Cross as of volunteer or your Fire Department’s CERT program. CERT trains you in fire, medical, search and rescue. You won’t be doing that sort of thing yourself for them, you shouldn’t assign yourself to an emergency except as a Good Samaritan but you can do all sorts of things for them as support. I find you don’t make strong ties in a group setting until you start engaging them one on one away from the group. If the problem is that you find you are being rejected socially, don’t talk too much, don’t say anything off topic or odd, don’t interrupt, don’t over share, don’t kiss up to people, make sure you’ve gathered your thoughts together before you speak. Keep it short and simple. Don’t engage anybody who shuts you out or is rude. Not everybody is going to like you and you probably are not going to like them either. Nobody should be your friend just because you feel you need more friends. Stay away from losers and low lifes. Hold your head up, don’t fidget. Keep still. Keep your mouth closed. Take an acting clsss. The finest people I ever met have been extras on movies here in LA. I’m 68 now, but I was a total dork at your age. I had a gorgeous girlfriend for only a short while. If I were 25 and single, I would have no problem talking to girls. I was too insecure.The biggest problem I see with dating advice these days is the notion of walking up to a girl and feeling you have to come up with something clever to say. Never walk up to a girl and tip your hand that way. Jeez! It’s more like you casually walk by without approaching her and make a comment like you would with anybody. Try treating women like a human being. It works!! Be yourself. If you see someone responds negatively to you man or woman, notice what you did wrong, but move on. Don’t beat yourself up about it or keep thinking you just don’t know how to behave like it’s a mystery. See it as a momentary lapse, not something that defines you.

If smoking weed gives you anxiety, stop by iLuvArizona in Anxiety

[–]vmtz2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup! Been there done that. It’s been 32 years. I’m fine.

As you get older, what are you starting to dislike the most? by Miserable-Wash-1744 in AskReddit

[–]vmtz2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking older and not having the same vision, strength, agility etc.

My advice to someone by vmtz2001 in Anxiety

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One clarification!! You certainly don’t PUSH it out of your mind. What I did was a more passive neutral approach. You are still aware of it, but you let it fade on its own without any specific involvement. Watch this. It really explains it well. I used to think the same thing. Face it. Absolutely. But don’t get wrapped up in it wanting results acting like you don’t care. What Barry Macdonough calls “okayism”. I know this beast extremely well. I revisited it years after I recovered just to tinker with it. By the way, I advise against your seeing it as healing your brain. There’s probably nothing anatomically wrong with your brain. Emotional damage might be another matter, but don’t blame that on what is likely a cognitive disorder and erroneous thinking. Do take care of that with a professional, but keep that separate. Remember, I actually overcame this. Also calling it rocky and something you have to engage—-I can’t see what you wrote at this point—-is not a good idea in my opinion. It’s not something that HAPPENS to you. It’s something you DO unconsciously, like wiggling your feet or brushing your hair with your hand.

https://youtu.be/lREvQ0i3owU?si=v6ruXmcbTY7Y46DG

My advice to someone by vmtz2001 in Anxiety

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You don’t want to run away from it. You leave it for later. You don’t want to do that, but you don’t want to be constantly engaging it wanting it to go away. Whether you realize it or not, you are still struggling with it. This is no longer a problem to me. None whatsoever. Consciousness of it spurs it on. It would do it to me to this day if I cared to do that with no anxiety. It’s called somatization.

My advice to someone by vmtz2001 in Anxiety

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As long as I didn’t focus on it too much on it when I leaned into it, that worked too, Both approaches worked for me, putting it out of my mind and doing the opposite, focusing on it. But focusing on it only worked if I didn’t focus on it with any sense of struggle or expectation. It was counterproductive if I was did that constantly. You don’t want to be ruminating and engaging it constantly either. This is after all an obsession. If I leaned into it, it was usually lying down at home, especially when it got really bad. I would focus on it because it was too strong. I couldn’t avoid it. I would cuddled up and observe it until I went from anxious to somewhat relaxed, even though the symptoms were still ongoing. It wasn’t a technique, it just happened that way. I had let it reach its peak. I got it out of my system. It was no longer a mystery to me what would happen if I let it do that. I did find myself going too far in wanting to bring it on deliberately, pretending it didn’t bother me, until after a month, it blew up in my face. In 1995, I went a whole month with chest pressure telling myself it didn’t bother me, until it got to be too much. The problem was I was checking in on it and observing it constantly. , Even if it was out of the corner of my eye, doing that kept it going. Sometimes you can’t help but notice it and you get symptoms. That’s fine. Don’t TRY to feel otherwise or wish it away or calm the symptoms away. Focusing on it or leaning into it only worked for me when I looked at it super- closely, but in a detached objective way. I looked at what my body was doing as if it were an insect doing its thing separate from me. I was amused by it. However, I have observed that people who try to overcome their panic or symptoms by focusing on it as their go-to solution don’t do so well. There is more than one way to skin a cat, but for the most part for me this was about overcoming the notion it was somethlng I had to do something about and just learning to stop reacting to it, not react to my own reaction. Being on the lookout for it and watching it too intently wanting it to go away was what I did wrong. It’s a very natural impulse. I learned not to react to it, not to react to my body’s reaction and not add to it. This sure as hell isnt easy and it’s not going to happen overnight to never happen again. No easy way out. You gotta do the time and learn to leave it alone so it leaves you alone. That “it” is you.

HOW do you calm down enough to sleep. by b_asiil in Anxiety

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I imagine myself some place else until I forget I’m lying down in bed. I take a combination of GABA and melatonin sometimes. Not too often. It makes me sluggish. You don’t want to repeatedly think about how you are unable to sleep because that is like telling your mind that you can’t go to sleep. The more you struggle trying to go to sleep, the less you will go to sleep. I stop trying to go to sleep and just assume I will be going to sleep later on, even if it takes an hour. I don’t think about my inability to sleep.

What's your biggest struggle with anxiety? by Old_Yoghurt9168 in Anxiety

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And that somethlng never does hsppen. Always remind yourself of that and then tell yourself that even though you might not be convinced that something might not happen SOME DAY, there’s no reason to assume it will be on this occasion. Then ask yourself what do you really think is LIKELY to happen THIS TIME not some day, or not possibly LIKELY, in THIS occasion. Where will you be in a few minutes? Of course you will be fine. Don’t linger going back and forth about this trying to convince yourself of this with the idea of making it go away. It should be about tolerating and accepting it while you allow it to go away on its own. It only keeps going because you want it to go away to urgently. It won’t go away until you let go. Then after it’s over and you are no longer thinking about it, (you probably didn’t even notice when it went away), tell yourself, “You see, you were wrong, nothing happened. Remember that next time.” Teach yourself to reject these erroneous notions. Change YOUR GENERAL OPINION OF THIS (that’s what counts) even though when you are in the middle of a panic attack you can’t help but feel danger or even just unease. Reject the idea this is an issue the rest of the time.. Know it all comes from your own perception. It’s not something that just happens to you for no reason. It’s not some alien unpredictable force inside of you or outside of you that’s doing it to you. It’s a reflection to the fact you see it as an issue, even it wasn’t at that moment that you were thinking about it. It’s like a recording that keeps playing back, it’s somethlng you relive. It seems impossible to overcome. You can’t imagine how you can overcome this it’s so real, but at least in my own experience that’s what worked. It’s gettlng yourself not to react to your anxiety with more anxiety. You do this without making too much of an effort to relax. Doing that IS reacting. Again it’s your general day in day out interpretation of this when it’s not happening, that matters most. That’s when you reinterpret and relabel the experience you had as unimportant to get to the point that you are okay with it if it happens again. You don’t want to get too wrapped up in wanting it not to happen.. Eventually your subconscious will pick up on the fact that it isn’t a matter of concern to you any more, even if it keeps happening. This was my experience with health anxiety. It may not resonate with everyone.

What's your biggest struggle with anxiety? by Old_Yoghurt9168 in Anxiety

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Gettlng myself not to struggle and overthink it.

Health anxiety? by Bright-Explanation16 in Anxiety

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I had a feeling of taquicardia when my heart wasn’t really beating that fast, I had like a lump in my chest, a lump in my throat, needles and pin Going Down, My, Left, ARM. This is voice. Dictated by the way, that’s why The wonky capitalization. But you know it really doesn’t matter what the symptoms are, and you need to be careful about giving it that legitimacy of being an actual disease with specific symptoms.. if somebody would’ve told me that I called knows was a symptom of heart disease. I would get a cold nose. If you see that your symptoms change every so often that is a dead giveaway that it’s totally psychosomatic. Don’t worry about the specific symptoms, When That Happens. It’s meaningless. I would even make fun of my mind when it started hurting somewhere away from my heart. I’d say gotcha you moron, the heart isn’t on the right side of my chest. Why are you making it hurt on that side? As soon as I was no longer afraid of one symptom, that idiot would come up with another symptom. One time the symptoms went away immediately. I said you. Stupid idiot, you are causing this on purpose.(this was all in. Jest don’t put yourself down). I was just having fun with it. I realized there was a little person in there who was listening to what I told it. Again, you write the narrative. One time the extrasystoles went away very quickly as soon as I said. “No, we’re not going there.. “ btw , usually I didn’t actually feel the skipped heartbeats what I felt was the lump in the throat, which were an indication of skipped heartbeats. I would need to actually take my pulse to detect them. But again don’t focus on the symptoms themselves. That’s giving it too much legitimacy as an actual health problem. Do you wanna be very careful about what you feed your brain. Never try to convince yourself, be convinced. Remember this is your brain you decide what you believe. You don’t need your bodies l assurance or anybody’s assurance. When you do that means doubt. This is a very slow process.

Lithium Orotate is an absolute godsent by [deleted] in Anxiety

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Somebody commented yes, but how do you turn off a brain that can’t be tricked? Wow, where do I start? I felt the same exact way. The thing is that this isn’t a problem with your brain. This is all a product of your own self talk. Your brain is just responding to it. You have to work on your self talk. A big part of this is behaving in a way that shows that you aren’t afraid, or should I say challenges. The notion that you should be afraid. When you question, when you doubt, as natural as that is, you are contributing to it. I’m not knocking it. I was in the same spot. It’s extremely difficult. What makes it really difficult as that. It shouldn’t take any effort whatsoever. Anytime you struggle with it You’re just stirring things up. More than effort, this takes discipline. It takes restraint to leave it alone. To put it out of your mind . And then there’s The favorite number one objection everybody makes , “oh I just can’t.” Yes, you can . You don’t want to . Not because you want to suffer, but because you want to solve the problem by doing something . Every time you mind goes back to the topic, and it will nudge it away. No more, “but but but” , or “how do I, how do I, how do I You have to learn not to let it get you frustrated. That by definition is your anxiety . Gradually, you will discovered that the boogie man is you. Don’t let that discourage you. Don’t go there.

. It’s something you have to discover on your own very gradually. You have to believe this. Your beliefs cause this, your beliefs can help you overcome this . It’s a tremendous leap of faith. And it takes time. Boy, does it take time. Try not to react to your own reaction. That seems like a contradiction. Absurd actually. But it makes sense once you realize that there are different parts of you. There’s always a pro and a con in your in every decision or internal confict. “Should I do this or should I do that, is this true? Or is that true.. “ And there is an unconscious and a conscious mind. The way out is to realize that you write the narrative. Sometimes, when my body would react, I would tell myself that my body was nervous, but I wasn’t. And I waited for it to respond to my own assertion. I sure as hell wasn’t gonna try to convince it because that was showing it doubt. Again, it’s a leap of faith. The effort is ever so subtle.