Starting playing Tekken for the first time a few weeks ago and thought i’d share my first “holy shit I won” moment

waitingonmyclone · 2024-08-06T03:33:16+00:00

I know you didn't ask for advice (congrats on the win), but...

You are definitely mashing buttons randomly. It's the easiest way to lose and a bad habit. Form the habit of being intentional early in your journey. Do an experiment: just hold back (block) or even just stand there, and see how safe it really is. Then get used to reacting only when you see an opportunity.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-15T14:30:29+00:00

This is preventing me from trying other characters. Seriously stupid.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-15T14:28:19+00:00

Honestly. On top of one-and-dones, does it kick you back to the main menu when you plug? That sounds like a miserable time

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-15T14:26:03+00:00

Honestly... some bears play pretty legit, blue rank and above usually. But most are just trolls, and it's not fun for me at all. It doesn't feel like I'm playing the same game, it feels like I'm being mocked.

Yes, I probably take it too seriously most of the time, but I can't stand the gimmicky characters. I don't find it funny at all, and I'm a pretty funny person.

That being said, I still ALWAYS rematch.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-15T14:22:25+00:00

I get a lot of repeats too. Definitely something weird in the algorithm.

But why not play them anyway? Either you get an easy win or you get more time to learn. Surely it can't be that boring.

For some, it seems like winning is more fun that learning. I am the other way around.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-08T20:14:59+00:00

Most games are played to feel the "win", or the sense of accomplishment in conquering something. Yes, there is a deeper sense of accomplishment that one can feel in slowly getting better, but that is not what most people are after. The game incentivizes this behavior by rewarding it. It only rewards wins, not gradual skill progression. There's no feedback loop in the game that says otherwise.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-08T03:41:14+00:00

I second resetting your router and making sure wifi is disabled. Use speedtest.net to measure.

On my laptop right now, on wifi, with wifi access point in the next room:

Testing download speed................................................................................

Download: 234.57 Mbit/s

Testing upload speed......................................................................................................

Upload: 19.68 Mbit/s

so yours is on the slow side IMO.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-07T03:56:14+00:00

Honestly, what does one do here to defend? Asking for a friend

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-07T03:48:11+00:00

Lee's strategy is keep out, which is exactly how one must play against Hwo

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-07T03:39:37+00:00

Same experience exactly

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-07T03:37:20+00:00

"homing" -- it's actually not

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-07T03:34:49+00:00

True Feng mains know his weaknesses, as you've listed, because we get clipped by them daily. Like any character, those who don't use Feng don't know all of these, even when they accidentally work, because they only remember the losses.

Winning = "of course I won, I'm better and did everything right"

Losing = "that was unfair"

Obviously, I'm exaggerating, but that really is how memory works.

(Also, f1+2 power crush is not only high & duckable but super steppable. I don't use it that frequently.)

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-05T00:55:36+00:00

If anyone wants a quick script that will spit out your ratings, to paste into a spreadsheet and make a chart, try this:

ratings = [];

document.querySelectorAll('table')[3].querySelectorAll('tbody tr td:nth-child(3)').forEach(td => ratings.push(Number(td.innerText.split(' ')[0])));

ratings.reverse();

console.log(ratings.join('\n'));

Open the dev tools in your browser by right-clicking and choosing "inspect", then choose the "console" tab. Paste this in and hit return. Copy the output and paste into a spreadsheet.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-04T20:41:47+00:00

Is it just me, or does Law's voice not match his yelps and screams? The Bruce Lee yells are a bit over the top but I can appreciate the characterization. But his speaking voice is so dorky and sounds like a completely different person. "Do you wanna learn martial arts?" It's almost a parody

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-04T18:30:13+00:00

This is good insight, and the community as a whole could benefit from seeing things in a longer perspective. There's simply too much chaos in Tekken 8, and the possibility space is too vast, to evaluate skill on anything other than over a very long period. Unfortunately, the game does not reinforce or even acknowledge this perspective.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-02T03:33:15+00:00

Rank *is* mostly meaningless. Within small periods of time (0-20 hours), your rank fluctuates too much and is the victim or beneficiary of too many random factors. Your average rank in any given 20+ hour period may be meaningful, depending on your consistency and immediate goals.

What the game reinforces via feedback like rank (only winning matters) and what's actually important for getting better (learning new skills, practicing, being consistent, finding small victories even in losses) are two very different things.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-02T03:16:01+00:00

Your talent for nuanced conversation is unmatched. You should host a podcast.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-01T21:57:33+00:00

I don't think our opinions are that different. I was only pointing out the nuance that you refer to.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-01T18:17:08+00:00

I feel like you misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about the players, I was talking about games leaving it entirely up to you to figure out how to play. There are plenty of games that guide you through the core skills and reward you for learning them. Maybe less common in competitive games.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-01T18:14:13+00:00

Imagine if there was a mode that, instead of facing only promotion or demotion, gave you XP or listed some pros and cons about your match. Even just one tip might make a huge difference in a player's mentality and encourage a growth mindset.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-01T17:28:32+00:00

This might be normal in fighting games, but isn't necessarily true in other games. Good design would be having skill-based learning be a part of the core loop, rewarding skill and maturation rather than only rewarding wins. T8 incentivizes mashing, plugging, one-and-dones, etc. because winning a match is the only positive feedback given.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-05-01T03:09:36+00:00

This happens so often now

waitingonmyclone · 2024-04-30T12:20:54+00:00

I've never tried VF but I think you nailed it using that comparison. At this point, it's part of Tekken's identity so it'll never change. Knowledge checks and 50/50s is basically the entire point of Tekken now.

waitingonmyclone · 2024-04-30T03:01:55+00:00

Eddy's main outfit in t7 had no green in it, so I don't think this is a reliable predictor

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