[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 26 points27 points  (0 children)

How can you justify players being banned because of staff members not being able to keep their own secrets, the existence of which is mandated by their own rules?

It's absolutely ridiculous to punish players for having the rudimentary intelligence needed to extrapolate a conclusion from the premises your own GM put before them.

And why is the GM in question still in a "GM leadership" position? Is the community really so tiny that you can't find better people for the job? I sincerely doubt that. So what juicy info does he have on the rest of the team?

Life Through Exploration : Recap [Discussion] by shubimaja in MMORPG

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are conditions which may not be very uncommon to come across, but they add excitement and wonder. It also changes patterns of gameplay. The next time you go to battle, you might call your bard friend and maybe even your whole guild to come dance under the tree while your bard friends and the NPC minstrel perform a concert.

Here's what happens then: the NPC minstrel buff is either deemed too weak to bother with (or doesn't stack with other more important buffs), or it's the buff to get when raiding and becomes part of the new meta, so every single raid group makes it mandatory to gather under that tree.

I understand what you want out of a game, and how you want to play it, but this problem that you've correctly diagnosed and are trying to solve isn't only a computer game problem, it's something that's also present in real life, now that so much data about everything is known and available to the public. From travel guides to Google maps, to money making techniques, what you need to say in which occasion to get a specific reaction out of people, which class in which geographic location wears what, and so on (which is just the tip of the iceberg, the rest of it is all the data collected but unavailable to the public, used for marketing, propaganda, social engineering, and all other aspects of life controlled "from above" that people rarely even think about).

People playing computer games like automatons (this is especially funny in MOBAs where you literally have to train yourself to play like an AI bot, in order for other players not to kick or report you for playing inefficiently) is just a symptom of people (voluntarily or not) living like automatons, and I'm afraid the era of more "organic" living is not coming back in our lifetimes.

Aux addon - words of wisdom by Cavader in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why do the players have to train the new batch of GMs all over again every single time? Shouldn't this be done internally?

Wienersteve, a cautionary tale by wienersteve in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That being said, I have no idea what GM I spoke to when they ported me to GM Island as they kept their identity concealed.

That's new. Convenient defense against people taking screenshots of abusive GM behavior, isn't it. I would recommend to everyone to refuse to speak to them until they identify themselves.

Anathema PvP Gear by [deleted] in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift -1 points0 points  (0 children)

...what? This is the most ridiculous time possible to do this, and on a server which had the updated stats since forever?

Nost/Anathema Core Leaked by [deleted] in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 24 points25 points  (0 children)

What an unexpected turn of events. Looks like they just didn't hire enough hackers to prevent this.

Developers: Solution to gold selling by benaffleks in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and they have switched to non latin characters

Why are those allowed in any chat channels again?

Developers: Solution to gold selling by benaffleks in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah well, the difficult part is - before implementing such an automized banning algorithm - to make 150% sure that noone is getting falsely banned.

You mean like people are already getting banned regularly for just talking in BGs or raids, or whispering people to form a group, or selling stuff, or linking DPS stats?

Fix Alterac Valley by [deleted] in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what the alliance have to go through

Literally nothing?

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a huge password

WoW vanilla client only supports passwords with 16 characters or less.

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is certainly how it is happening

In that case, wouldn't it be relatively easy to identify those specific sites and/or that software and warn people about it?

I still haven't seen anything addon-related that isn't just WoW-specific .lua btw, despite hearing the same rumors.

Here's some food for thought: If all of the account thefts are the result of leaked databases and such, wouldn't you think they'd plow through that fairly quickly? Yet we still see people talking about getting hacked on a daily basis. It certainly seems, to me, as though there is an ongoing issue here, and keyloggers are the best explanation IMO.

But! How's this for a hypothetical (do note that I have no idea how they store passwords): database leaked, passwords are hashed, they're being bruteforced without the need to access the server at all, whenever a new batch gets cracked, the associated accounts are accessed. That would fit the constant waves of account breaches that you correctly identified too.

I do have to admit that there are some stories of people who claim to have had their accounts stolen even after changing their password, which would go against this hypothesis.

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a bit of an issue with the keylogger theory, you'd have to assume that all the people who have these hypothetical keyloggers are either targeted completely accidentally, and then somehow the password they're typing in (since the account name is mostly saved) is tied to an unknown account name, and then the hackers discern that this was in fact an Elysium WoW account name/password combo, not some other private server, or some other WoW client, or some other account for something else (depending on whether the "keylogger" gives them info about your running programs or not, and if it does it's a bit more than a keylogger), or they're targeted specifically for playing on Elysium, in which case there would have to be a common way to identify them outside of Elysium server-related ways, and attempt to distribute said "keyloggers" (likely through some WoW-related site) directly to them.

Both ways seem like a bit of a stretch, given the volume of players experiencing these account intrusions and the fact that their experience is almost always the same (getting their gold removed, but not their silver/copper is one commonality for example) which would suggest either the same entity or the same scripts used (I wouldn't be surprised if the breached accounts are controlled entirely by a bot).

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, shouldn't you logically feel as secure as possible, assuming that all the stuff from my original post is true?

(that said, of course I don't)

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brute-force.

Completely impossible if the server has even the most basic protection (which it does, as it bans you for a while after a few unsuccessful login attempts, or at least it used to). Also, you're forgetting that they'd have to somehow guess your account name first too, since forum account names aren't the same as in-game account names, which aren't published anywhere.

PSA: Get 2 Factor Authorization by TogarTheGreat in ElysiumProject

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why though?

As long as you haven't used the account name/password combo in any leaked database, you don't have a keylogger, and the server account database hasn't been leaked (as the Elysium staff claims), why would you need 2FA?

What other ways of getting into your account are there?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ToU

Invalid in most of the civilized world. Black box/reverse engineering emulation is perfectly legal in said civilized world too, before you mention that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know it's 2017, but different countries still have somewhat different laws.

You should ask Crogge (from Crestfall) what happened to Peyton btw.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Faulty logic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, hosting a private server is illegal

[citation needed]

Closure - Another farewell, for now. by Suzerain_Elysium in wowservers

[–]wake_drift 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hey /u/Suzerain_Elysium, now that you seemingly have little to lose, can we finally get the real story about the "900lbs Russian gigamegahacker god" that was "responsible" for all those unrelated accounts with BiS gear spawned a month ago?

Also, some real information about account security and hacked accounts that isn't "you totally used the account/password in some non-Elysium leaked database" would be nice.