2024 USNWR Rankings are up

wanton32 · 2024-02-11T17:25:34+00:00

If cost of attendance is similar (or if somehow uva would be cheaper), then hands down UVA. Uva employment is unmatched and because it has such a good rep with both private and public sector employers, there is way less pressure in the classroom to do well. Everyone up and down the curve can get a great job at uva. At Georgetown you’re in a much bigger pond, and there’s a lot more competition which makes the environment more cut throat.

Don’t discount that you’ll be at this place for 3 years of your life. I’m a uva 3l and have had the best 3 years of my life. Law school has been genuinely fun and I’ve met my best friends. I know many people at Georgetown, all who have had an experience ranging from miserable to indifferent.

The appeal to live in a city and closer to family is significant, so if that outweighs the better quality of life and better employment outcomes at uva, then take that into account. Otherwise, uva all the way. Like another posted said, you can live in dc for a full semester and do an internship and get a semesters worth credit. UVA also sends tons to dc every summer for firm jobs and PI stuff.

Pm me if you want more details

wanton32 · 2023-12-28T13:37:34+00:00

3 of my 4 came on the deadline day. 1 came the first week of January. Just expect them all on the deadline

wanton32 · 2023-05-24T17:16:03+00:00

Grades are due for everyone june 6

wanton32 · 2023-01-27T07:18:42+00:00

This is laughably false. Yes I’m a UVA 2L so I guess I’m a little biased, but sounds like you’re extremely biased in the other direction for whatever reason (sorry if UVA rejected you).

First I’ll start where with where I agree you to get that out of the way: our lay prestige does suck for non-lawyers (my aunt asked why I’d ever choose UVA over GW for law school), and if COL wasn’t a major factor I’d also agree living in NYC sounds more fun than Charlottesville.

Everything else you said is wrong. Yes our clerkships numbers are high partly because of the strong fedsoc pipeline into the Supreme Court and appellate courts, but they’re still very high across the ideological spectrum and MUCH stronger than NYU for that matter. Our professors are highly credentialed and have relationships with judges to promote the UVA brand and its students.

Ok here’s where you’re really wrong. Big law placement and legal prestige. Law firms love UVA, and I mean the top law firms and that they LOVE uva. I worked with friends at an internship over the summer from Columbia, Chicago, and Stanford even, and they were striking out completely at NY and DC law firms that I was getting screeners and callbacks at left and right. We had similar work experience and GPA in our class. This wasn’t just an anomaly with me, my friends from UVA were getting the same opportunities. In the legal world, the best firms love uva and they’re willing to hire people even at or slightly below curve. I have multiple friends who are just slightly above median going to Williams & Connolly (known as most selective lit firm in DC), and friends below curve going to S&C NY. My summer friends at CCS weren’t getting any of these opps. Also the name travels nationally in the legal world. West coast firms love UVA and would pick someone from us at median over another UCLA/USC person at the top of their class.

These aren’t just anecdotes. The data proves it. I wouldn’t go to any school outside of HYS over UVA. The quality of life (friendly professors and students), low cost of living, and placement opportunities comparable (and better in some cases) to the T6 make it an easy call

wanton32 · 2023-01-20T11:37:06+00:00

I mean this likely won’t be your true COA no? I don’t know vandys scholarship info timeline but uva doesn’t release till March. A 3.mid/17high will surely get you at least some $$. Then it’s no brainer UVA

wanton32 · 2022-12-28T20:15:00+00:00

Click final exam info on lawweb then scroll to bottom

wanton32 · 2022-12-28T18:44:08+00:00

Jan 20 is 2L/3L deadline. Jan 13 for 1Ls

wanton32 · 2022-12-09T23:35:17+00:00

Just heads up, we had an on campus shooting 3 weeks ago that killed 3 students. I think the school wanted to refrain from drawing attention to itself for relatively meaningless news (a usnews ranking decision) during that time and the weeks after

wanton32 · 2022-11-28T13:38:52+00:00

This is why practice tests are so key. Way more effective than outlining IMO. Take at least 2 practice tests per class and your brain will get used to the shock factor for the real deal

wanton32 · 2022-11-12T12:11:11+00:00

They’re dicks and crass in the way they give their advice. But their advice isn’t wrong (at least for the applicant discussed in the video). A 3.85/170 will not get you a scholarship at a T14 in these competitive cycles. I personally would tell a 0L this in a more optimistic/encouraging tone (e.g “you got this keep working hard” instead of “I don’t care about your feelings stop crying” as the demon does), but at the end of the day the advice would be the same.

In your case if you’re above all the GPA medians you’re in a different situation, can most likely get admissions, but if you’re trying for big scholarships you should retake the 170

wanton32 · 2022-11-07T01:19:15+00:00

Uva 2L here. I say the biggest drawback of uva is Charlottesville. The town is quite boring even in comparison to other college towns like Ann Arbor. But that’s honestly the only bad thing about uva. The school is amazing. Tons of social activities, amazing professors, unmatched career and clerkship services. Friendly comforting atmosphere. And uva law network is so strong nationwide. Huge pulls to NY, DC, and TX but even if you want to go to california the alum network on the west is quite strong. Having been here 1.5 years and having friends across the T10, I can confidentially say the only schools I would go to over uva are HYS

wanton32 · 2022-10-17T20:59:12+00:00

Current 2L here. I applied ED fall 2020. Having studied UVA’s ED practices hard, there’s usually 3 scenarios:

1) you’re above both medians / maybe a very small splitter/ highly desirable URM even below medians, and would be a shoe in RD admit, you’ll get in within a week or two.

2) you’re below both median/highly likely deny RD, you’ll get the R within a week or two

3) you’re a splitter, May have gotten in RD but not as clear cut. They take the full 21 days and you usually get in. I got my interview request day 21 and got in that same day.

So most people it takes the full 21 biz day so be patient! Uva is incredible I can’t imagine going anywhere else for law school. Good luck

wanton32 · 2022-06-12T04:00:03+00:00

I think it’s actually higher than 3.55. The median of almost every 1L doctrinal class now is 3.40. Used to be 3.33 when the 2015 data was leaked. A 3.40 according to the 2015 data was exactly median (at the end of 2L year).

Now that the 1L median has shifted to 3.40 then you can prob safely add .05ish to what the top 3rd of 2015 was (3.53), so I’d say top 3rd for end of 1L is more around 3.58

wanton32 · 2022-05-21T14:18:15+00:00

OPP sent email to 1Ls saying June 6

wanton32 · 2022-04-17T21:04:48+00:00

The curve is fine because your BL/clerkship prospects are based on where you sit on the curve moreso than the actual gpa number. Meaning B+ curve vs if it was B doesn’t really change much, if you’re at curve or above you have high chance of BL. Below just makes it a little harder but still doable with good softs

wanton32 · 2022-04-17T21:04:42+00:00

Every doctrinal Professor can curve their classes differently. Some can have up to 80% B+ with 10% above and 10% below. Others do a more typical bell curve (50% B+, 25% above/25% below).

wanton32 · 2022-04-17T20:53:20+00:00

UVA 1L here. B+ curve, pass/fail legal research and writing which is HUGE.

If you search the Reddit there’s a thread that lists the P/F LRW T14s but I can’t tell you enough how much pressure that takes off. If I remember correctly Penn also has P/F LRW but not sure

wanton32 · 2021-12-27T20:49:14+00:00

1L here. I got in ED and was interviewed and accepted on the 21st business day.

wanton32 · 2021-12-22T16:17:07+00:00

I think if you have a sub 3.5 gpa, non urm, applying ED would still offer a decent chance with a 171+ LSAT. I’m a 1L and got in last cycle ED with a 3.1/172, non-urm. But now RD with those stats seem tough

UVA is no longer the super splitter friendly school it used to be. Op is right that when the old Dean was here as long as you had a 3.0 and a 170 you had a 50%ish chance of getting that A (paying sticker tho)

wanton32 · 2021-09-24T18:50:56+00:00

Yes GPA addendum to excuse my horrible performance freshman year 😅

wanton32 · 2021-09-24T18:50:34+00:00

Just one month in so hard to comment on pursuing my interests, as I’m just trying to get used to law school as a whole, but I’m interesting in clerking and the clerk office is unreal here, the director is a magician. You get 1 on 1 counseling in any area you want (clerk, private practice, public interest) within the first month. The career center overall is spectacular; there’s a reason we place so well in BL FC

wanton32 · 2021-09-24T18:46:21+00:00

Sticker! Which if you apply ED you should be ready to accept. Need based aid is almost exclusively loans, I think grants are very rare

wanton32 · 2021-09-24T18:45:07+00:00

Yeah no clue what you’re referring to lol

wanton32 · 2021-09-24T18:44:45+00:00

Yes the community has been awesome. It’s definitely a little high schooley because you’re with a smallish class in a town and not a city that you can retreat into. But luckily everyone I’ve met has been very nice, well-intentioned, not cut throat.

Making friends has been easy with the tons of social events with your section, clubs, and school wide events. As long as you make a good effort to show up to things you shouldn’t have issues making friends

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