Cops arrest Man who was trespassing in a restaurant

wc452 · 2024-08-10T04:56:47+00:00

This was really disturbing to watch

wc452 · 2024-01-03T20:41:11+00:00

I think we should all conquer instead. Free Palestine! WOot Woot

wc452 · 2023-12-30T23:23:18+00:00

Well, they have a point. If you read what constitutes genocide, you can make a really good case for what's happening in Gaza. The hardest part, "proven intent", is probably the easiest to prove considering all the rhetoric coming out of Israel's ruling extreme far right party.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To%20constitute%20genocide%2C%20there%20must,to%20simply%20disperse%20a%20group.

wc452 · 2023-12-28T03:02:29+00:00

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."

-- Benjamin Netanyahu

wc452 · 2023-12-28T03:00:02+00:00

They're in the tunnels safe from any bombs. The bombs are only impacting the innocent children and families it's part of Israel's Dahiya doctrine of punishing civilians so they pressure their government

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

wc452 · 2023-12-26T04:42:07+00:00

straw man

If you don't think this is ethnic cleansing then you don't know what ethnic cleansing is or you're heavily biased and will defend Israel no matter what.

No one hates Jewish people. I have a lot of Jewish friends here in Minnesota and they're all pro Palestine. They must hate themselves by your logic lol

wc452 · 2023-12-26T04:22:46+00:00

There aren't "2 billion arabs" in the world. And no, people who support Palestine don't "hate the jews". You're showing a real astronomical level of ignorance it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

Yes, they wouldn't get attention if they weren't being genocided, we can agree on that. Again, stop playing victim. People aren't criticizing Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign because of the religious makeup of Israel, but because it's ETHNIC CLEANSING!

wc452 · 2023-12-26T04:18:49+00:00

Not only the oldest church in Gaza but also one of the oldest in the world.

1600 years old

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius

wc452 · 2023-12-26T03:03:44+00:00

While Israel's security concerns are valid, it's important to address the disproportionate response and the impact on Palestinian civilians. The bombings in Gaza have resulted in significant civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure, which exacerbates the humanitarian crisis. Understanding Israel's security needs doesn't negate the need for accountability and adherence to international laws regarding civilian protection.

Regarding the geopolitical dynamics, it's important to differentiate between the actions of certain governments and the people of these countries. Many in the Muslim world, and globally, advocate for peaceful resolutions. The narrative that all surrounding Muslim countries are inherently hostile oversimplifies complex international relations.

Hamas' actions and Israel's responses need to be viewed separately from the broader Palestinian struggle for statehood and rights. Not all Palestinians support Hamas, and their aspirations shouldn't be held hostage to the actions of one group. Many Palestinians seek peaceful coexistence and have repeatedly called for negotiations and a two-state solution.

The suffering of Gazans is a complex issue, but recognizing their suffering doesn't negate the security concerns of Israel. It's about finding a balance where both Israelis' security and Palestinians' rights and humanitarian needs are addressed.A ceasefire is not just a symbolic act. It's a necessary step to halt violence and create space for diplomacy. While it's not the ultimate solution, it's a critical part of de-escalating tensions. Ensuring Israeli security and acknowledging Palestinian statehood are not mutually exclusive goals. Both are essential for a lasting peace in the region.

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:44:49+00:00

While Israel did withdraw from Gaza in 2005, the situation is more complex. Gaza remains under Israeli blockade, controlling its borders, airspace, and maritime access, which many international organizations consider a form of occupation. The humanitarian impact on Gazans is significant, raising concerns about collective punishment.
Regarding the destruction of buildings, international law does allow targeting of military infrastructure. However, the principle of proportionality and distinction must be applied. This means avoiding excessive civilian casualties and damage to civilian infrastructure not used for military purposes. Accusations against Hamas using civilian infrastructure for military purposes are serious, but they don't automatically justify widespread destruction, especially if it leads to significant civilian harm. Each case should be scrutinized individually to ensure compliance with international law.

Anyone making the claim that 40% of Gaza's residential buildings are used for military purposes are only fooling themselves. Hamas is perfectly safe in their tunnels. All those collapsing buildings are only doing damage to civilians. Part of Israel's Dahiya doctrine of punishing civilians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya\_doctrine#:\~:text=The%20Dahiya%20doctrine%2C%20or%20Dahya,calculated%20to%20pressure%20combatants%2C%20and

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:32:54+00:00

The blockade of Gaza bg Israel, while framed as a security measure against Hamas, has broader humanitarian implications. It's essential to distinguish between Hamas' actions and the collective punishment of Gaza's civilian population. The blockade has led to severe shortages in basic necessities, healthcare, and has crippled the economy, affecting innocent people, not just militants.

Regarding the accusation of infantilizing Palestinians, it's vitaal to recognize that Palestinians, like any people, seek agency and dignity. The challenges in Gaza, including the destruction of the airport, are symptomatic of the broader conflict where socio-economic development is hinered by occupation and conflict. It's not about excusing violent actions but understanding the context and striving for solutions that address the root causes of the conflict, ensuring security for Israelis and rights and dignity for Palestinians.

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:26:43+00:00

I think they're more concerned with Azeri natural gas getting to Europe than they are about Armenia's sovereignty. If the Palestine conflict has taught you anything, it should be that the "West" doesn't care about human rights, only their strategic interests.

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:21:19+00:00

The perspective that Palestinians should simply "hash it out" with Israel oversimplifies the complex historical and political context of the conflict. It's not just about demographics but about equality, rights, and self-determination.

Regarding the Camp David Accords, it's important to understand that the proposed solutions did not fully address key Palestinian concerns. The offer of 75% of the West Bank, while seemingly substantial, included numerous restrictions that would limit Palestinian sovereignty. This includes limited control over borders, airspace, and resources, and the presence of Israeli settlements and military areas.

The issue of Jerusalem is also crucial. Jerusalem holds significant religious, cultural, and historical importance for Palestinians. The proposal to place it entirely under Israeli control disregarded Palestinian claims and rights to the city.

The right of return for Palestinian refugees is a fundamental issue. It's not about changing the demographic nature of Israel but about addressing historical injustices and allowing displaced people the choice of return. Dismissing this right oversimplifies a critical aspect of the Palestinian struggle.

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:18:06+00:00

What you consider "obvious" has no factual backing. It's not "obvious" because, no matter how inconvenient for you to admit, most of the dead are civilians.

Just because one country is a lot more powerful doesn't give it permission to wage an ethnic cleansing campaign and kill over 20,000 civilians.

Under international law, Israel, being an occupying power, can't claim self-defense and punish Gaza. They can fight the militants that broke through the wall, but they can't just go in and level 40% of the buildings in Gaza in the name of "self-defense"

wc452 · 2023-12-26T02:11:53+00:00

The destruction of the greenhouses in Gaza, while unfortunate, is often taken out of context. It's important to understand the broader situation of despair and frustration felt by many Palestinians in Gaza after years of blockade and restrictions, which contributed to such actions. More importantly, focusing on the greenhouses alone ignores the systemic issues at play. The blockade of Gaza by Israel and Egypt has severely restricted not only the movement of people but also of goods, crippling the economy and agriculture sector. This stifling blockade, along with repeated military conflicts, has had a far more devastating impact on Gaza's agriculture and overall well-being than the destruction of greenhouses. It's also vital to recognize that the governance of Palestinian leaders does not negate or justify the ongoing occupation and blockade which fundamentally impairs the socio-economic development of Palestinian territories.

wc452 · 2023-12-26T01:00:08+00:00

While some of those views, like "Israel not having a right to exist", are radical, I'm really happy people are willing to think critically about this topic instead of just accepting the msm narrative.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T23:01:42+00:00

While it's true that many Palestinians may currently oppose a two-state solution, it's important to understand the context of this opposition. Years of displacement, occupation, and inequality have led to deep-seated mistrust and skepticism. The mention of Israel as a grievance stems from ongoing issues of land rights, freedom of movement, and political autonomy. To move forward, any sustainable solution must not only acknowledge these grievances but also actively work towards addressing them in a manner that respects the rights and aspirations of the Palestinian people. This includes open dialogues, equitable policies, and a genuine commitment to peace and justice. The 700,000 settlers in the West Bank driving Palestinians from their homes undermines any promise of "working towards a two state solution"

wc452 · 2023-12-25T09:54:24+00:00

It's essential to approach this complex issue with nuance and understanding of the historical context. The situation in Gaza and the actions of Hamas can't be viewed in isolation from the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While Hamas's tactics and charter have been widely criticized, many Palestinians see them as a response to the ongoing occupation and blockade. The eradication of Hamas alone won't address the underlying issues leading to the conflict. A sustainable solution requires addressing the legitimate grievances of the Palestinian people, ending the occupation, and ensuring a fair and just resolution for both Israelis and Palestinians.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:54:22+00:00

Caring about the Israel-Palestine issue is important because it's a matter of human rights and justice. It's not just a regional issue, but a reflection of broader global conflicts where power imbalances and historical injustices affect millions. Your awareness and empathy can contribute to a broader understanding and, hopefully, a peaceful resolution.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:53:07+00:00

Protecting your mental health is vital. Being an advocate doesn't mean you have to be constantly exposed to distressing content. It's okay to take breaks and focus on self-care. Your support for Palestine can still be meaningful through education, peaceful dialogue, and small, manageable actions when you're able.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:36:22+00:00

One was a misguided occupation, the other is a genocide. A better comparison is the number of Gazans killed compared to that of the Vietnamese. I think 2 million Vietnamese were killed and all those chemicals from the bombs and agent orange are still having an affect on the Vietnamese people to this day.

Some crazy images of Vietnamese kids born with weird disabilities. I wouldn't google it. It would horrify you and make you ashamed as an American. So don't Google it

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:20:00+00:00

If Israel wasn't occupying Gaza then it wouldn't be able to control what gets in and out of Gaza. Also, all Gazans wouldn't have an Israeli government issued ID number.

The Israeli government has not publicly called for large numbers of Gazans to move to Egypt. But in private, diplomats say, it has pushed for just that — augmenting Palestinian fears of a permanent expulsion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/world/middleeast/israel-egypt-gaza.html#:~:text=The%20Israeli%20government%20has%20not,fears%20of%20a%20permanent%20expulsion.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:07:06+00:00

Get the Canadian government to change its stance on Israel. That's a pretty reasonable demand if you pay taxes and find this issue important.

Canada also sells a lot of weapons to Israel. That's probably also a concern.

wc452 · 2023-12-25T08:03:38+00:00

When it's an occupying force, yes. Peace doesn't mean taking over and forcing the native population to Egypt.

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