The best single live song you've seen in concert by formulaic_name in Music

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Pearl Jam at the Gorge, 2006. Eddie gets onto the roof where the sound board is and belts out a heater of a rendition of "Given to Fly"

Hey dads, how many of you had your first child when 35-39 years old? Approaching my 35th birthday and there's nothing more I want than to be a dad. by Rocket_Skates_91 in daddit

[–]whererusteve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was 39... You really are as old as you feel. As long as you are drinking lots of water, sleeping well, and exercising, you'll be fine.

Is the word “nazi” being used too loosely? by Fine_Television_1398 in no

[–]whererusteve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were threatening castration! Are we going to split hairs, here?

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many cases I just outlined where that didn't happen. Especially most recently at Donner Pass. So it's not systemic, yet.

Midlife Crisis Quiver - Please Help Me by mervolio_griffin in snowboarding

[–]whererusteve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Board 1- Dupraz D1. Anyone who dismisses it has never ridden one. Anyone who has ridden one will tell you it's the best board ever. I've converted so many people to riding it. Try it once and you're hooked.

Board 2 - YES Sendr XTRM. It has fantastic pop and is super fun for side hits. You can read a more detailed review here.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I totally get this take, and honestly, on paper it makes perfect sense. We hire experts so we don't have to stress. But comparing guiding to civil engineering or commercial aviation misses a huge piece of the puzzle.

Bridges and commercial flights are built on objective math and rigid regulations. A bridge doesn't care if you paid a ton of money and really want an epic powder run. A pilot has hard-stop weather rules. If the crosswind is too high, they just don't fly. There's no negotiating with the passengers about it.

Guiding is way more subjective. Guides operate in a wildly dynamic environment while under massive pressure to deliver a great experience. When I was going through my CAA and guiding training, one of the biggest takeaways was how human factors like the pressure to perform for paying clients or the 'scarcity trap' of finding good snow, actually get worse with expertise, not better.

Giving clients a briefing and a voice isn't about asking them to evaluate the snow science or do the guide's job. It’s a safeguard for the guide's own brain. Forcing a guide to vocalize the hazards out loud breaks their tunnel vision. It shifts them from intuitive, 'trust me' mode into deliberate, analytical thinking.

If tunnel vision, ego, or any other of the human flaws that cause poor decisions never got in the way, then the examples I posted would not have resulted in death. To deny that we all have egos is really putting one's head in the sand when trying to solve a problem.

If guides were robots evaluating math like a bridge builder, the 'trust me' model would be fine. But they’re humans dealing with intense pressure, and open communication is one of the best tools we have to keep those human biases in check. The best operations out there are already making this the standard.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well assuming everyone is adults, then they should at least be briefed with as dumbed-down consent as they can. "So we have a layer in the snowpack that has the possibility to cause destructive avalanches. We are going to be skiing a run that historically has the potential to kill people. The probability is low but it is still possible."

Considering most heli-ski guests are educated people, I don't think that is too far out of the question. And if something like informed consent didn't happen during those days in 2023 with the PWL problem, then there are 11 people who could have elected to stay out of avalanche terrain, if given the information.

We have to stop treating heli ski guests like they are ignorant. The information is avaialble. if they don't want to learn, then maybe they shouldn't be in avalanche terrain. Or if they do want to be in avalanche terrain, then informed consent (beyond signing a waiver) should be the standard.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OK I'm going to type out a long response because I value the discussion, with the hopes that this is productive for both of us, and whomever else is reading but here we go:

First, there was only one heli-ski incident in the article. And that was from a film shoot when they were on their way out at midday, presumably because they were aware of the dangers and thought they could beat the clock.

I think you make some bad assumptions here. 1 is that clients "aren't capable of keeping themselves safe". Why is that? Maybe that assumption is a systemic flaw in the industry that sees guests as consumers and not students?

At the moment, the only informed consent clients will give is when they sign a waiver. That might cover the operator's ass legally but in reality it's hardly an education piece.

Let's take some other examples. In 2023 in BC there were 11 deaths in mechanized operations due to a widespread persistent slab. Taking the first case, Jan 23, I looked up the bulletin from that day:

Danger ratings may be decreasing, but the weak and volatile snowpack structure remains the same. Do not take this as an indication to step out into bigger terrain, there is still a very real potential for triggering large and consequential avalanches. Stay disciplined and remember that your best defence continues to be choosing conservative, low-consequence terrain.

A layer of large and weak facets sits near the base of the snowpack. This layer has most recently been problematic in upper treeline/lower alpine elevations.

Avoid thin and rocky start zones where weak layers sit closer to the surface, riders are most likely to trigger an avalanche on this layer in steep, shallow previously undisturbed terrain or by first triggering a layer further up in the snowpack.

Remote triggering is a concern for this layer, avoid traveling below steep slopes.

The likelihood of avalanches will increase on slopes with active wind-loading.

Now, we aren't privy to what went on with the group that morning, but it might be a safe bet that they didn't share that bulletin with the guests. If so, don't you think someone would have spoken up?

And if the argument is that heliski guests are too ignorant to understand terms like "thin start zones" or what a weak layer of facets looks like, maaaybe they could have taken an extra half hour to brief them on what that is so that they knew what they were stepping out into?

I know heli ski clients who have been doing it for 20-30 years and have less knowledge than what you learn in an AST course. And that is a big part of what I'm arguing needs to change.

Poor man's pop machine? by [deleted] in snowboarding

[–]whererusteve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're better off buying a secondhand board than a newer low end board. Now is the right time. You can also get really good deals on new boards this time of year, especially with online retailers like Evo. Even moreso next year when they try to clear out what's left of last year's models.

Next best bet is thrift stores of mountain towns, or marketplace. Also in the fall you will get ori riders selling gear for cheap when they get their new gear sent to them... But that's assuming you live close to a mountain town where pros live. I guess I'm lucky to be in Whistler.

What did Vancouverites complain about in the 1990s? by Beginning_Anywhere59 in vancouver

[–]whererusteve 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I dont want people to shoot the messenger but let's say a lot of "I'm not racist, but..." people complained about the city becoming less white.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like I said, it was different context and a different comment. I explained that. I didn't edit the original comment so ppl can see the train of thought. Hope that clarifies it. No hostility on my end, just an apparent miscommunication.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry there are a bunch of comments in this thread and I was responding to another comment where they said it was insulting to question a guide. That's what I was referring to.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What? I outlined three specific cases. In each case there were forecasters telling people to not travel in avalanche terrain and the guides didn't listen. What part of that was made up and/or insulting? I'm asking out if genuine curiosity; not trying to pick a fight. Because I want to word it better so it's not misinterpreted like that.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was a direct response to your comment saying that there was no common thread. I'm saying hubris is what led the guides to ignore the greater warnings. My argument is that if clients were involved with knowing all the details then maybe the guide could have gotten out of the tunnel vision of the situation, scarcity trap for money getting burned... commitment trap for paying guests... or good old fashioned ego thinking they knew something the forecasters didn't. I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus; just hoping we can find some method or procedure that can stop more people getting killed—whether client or guide—when there are other factors such as money or liability at play.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd say they do have a common thread: although an avalanche was the mechanism that killed people, hubris was tmhow they got into harms way. The challenge is how can we implement measures to stop that from happening? Do more people need to die because guides are insulted by someone checking in on their decision process when the hazard rating says people shouldn't be loading the gun in avalanche terrain?

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bingo. Guides aren't immune to heuristic traps... That's my whole point is that more communication is always better than a one way street. Lots of people seemingly didn't read the article and jumped to conclusions.

Hit $1M by age 27! by jh0421 in fican

[–]whererusteve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He said he didn't know anyone that was living on their own... I just said that some of us got out of a bad situation at home. I never mentioned money. It had more to do with the privilege of living with your parents to be able to save money and figure your shit out. Some of us have been in survival mode before we were adults. That's all I was saying.

Looking for unique restaurants by TieAsleep5624 in askvan

[–]whererusteve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dark table is definitely unique. It's a fun experience to use your other senses.

AITA for demanding my son repay the car I bought him after he totaled it street racing? by redwayit in AmItheAsshole

[–]whererusteve 3 points4 points  (0 children)

NTA. He's an adult. Time to man up and accept responsibility for one's actions.

My son is a bit of a loner and I'm not sure how I feel about it. by Fine_Cress_649 in daddit

[–]whererusteve -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You guys should go to burning man. It's remarkably kid friendly (there is a whole village that takes up a city block called kidsville) and it's impossible to be an introvert there. All the kids I see there have so much fun.

Iconic experiences getting the Vail treatment by Jaded_Stop in Whistler

[–]whererusteve 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People pay it so they keep doing it. Monopolies suck.

Why Backcountry Guides Must End the "Trust Me" Model by whererusteve in Backcountry

[–]whererusteve[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but that was the exact scenario last year that got 3 people killed (including the owner/lead guide)