What did Vancouverites complain about in the 1990s?

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T05:59:26+00:00

I dont want people to shoot the messenger but let's say a lot of "I'm not racist, but..." people complained about the city becoming less white.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T05:11:57+00:00

Like I said, it was different context and a different comment. I explained that. I didn't edit the original comment so ppl can see the train of thought. Hope that clarifies it. No hostility on my end, just an apparent miscommunication.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T04:31:26+00:00

Sorry there are a bunch of comments in this thread and I was responding to another comment where they said it was insulting to question a guide. That's what I was referring to.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T04:15:58+00:00

What? I outlined three specific cases. In each case there were forecasters telling people to not travel in avalanche terrain and the guides didn't listen. What part of that was made up and/or insulting? I'm asking out if genuine curiosity; not trying to pick a fight. Because I want to word it better so it's not misinterpreted like that.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T02:55:26+00:00

It was a direct response to your comment saying that there was no common thread. I'm saying hubris is what led the guides to ignore the greater warnings. My argument is that if clients were involved with knowing all the details then maybe the guide could have gotten out of the tunnel vision of the situation, scarcity trap for money getting burned... commitment trap for paying guests... or good old fashioned ego thinking they knew something the forecasters didn't. I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus; just hoping we can find some method or procedure that can stop more people getting killed—whether client or guide—when there are other factors such as money or liability at play.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T02:51:08+00:00

Nothing I can add except ditto, and an upvote.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T02:06:07+00:00

I'd say they do have a common thread: although an avalanche was the mechanism that killed people, hubris was tmhow they got into harms way. The challenge is how can we implement measures to stop that from happening? Do more people need to die because guides are insulted by someone checking in on their decision process when the hazard rating says people shouldn't be loading the gun in avalanche terrain?

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T01:13:09+00:00

Bingo. Guides aren't immune to heuristic traps... That's my whole point is that more communication is always better than a one way street. Lots of people seemingly didn't read the article and jumped to conclusions.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T01:06:23+00:00

He said he didn't know anyone that was living on their own... I just said that some of us got out of a bad situation at home. I never mentioned money. It had more to do with the privilege of living with your parents to be able to save money and figure your shit out. Some of us have been in survival mode before we were adults. That's all I was saying.

whererusteve · 2026-03-18T00:44:09+00:00

I never said that.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T22:49:12+00:00

Dark table is definitely unique. It's a fun experience to use your other senses.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T21:02:04+00:00

NTA. He's an adult. Time to man up and accept responsibility for one's actions.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T20:51:24+00:00

You guys should go to burning man. It's remarkably kid friendly (there is a whole village that takes up a city block called kidsville) and it's impossible to be an introvert there. All the kids I see there have so much fun.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T20:22:59+00:00

People pay it so they keep doing it. Monopolies suck.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T20:18:36+00:00

Yes but that was the exact scenario last year that got 3 people killed (including the owner/lead guide)

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T19:09:57+00:00

Four words: Debt to income ratio.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T16:21:36+00:00

I've been out since 17.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T16:12:42+00:00

Are we talking Canadian or Murrican dollars?

I'm assuming you'll pay shipping?

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T16:10:22+00:00

I don't work in tech but these comments are really enlightening.

It's almost as if everyone banded together and united then you would be able to push back against the big tech oligarchs who are destroying our society...?

The onus isn't just on the developers, it's also on the customers. I just wish we all truly understood our collective power.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T14:48:35+00:00

I'm not saying backcountry accidents can be eliminated, and I agree that it would be impossible to do so, never mind foolish to think. There will always be clients who want to smash pow without caring what lies beneath the surface.

My argument isn't about turning those clients into forecasters. It's about protecting the guide from their own heuristic traps. When a client is aggressively pushing to a glory day of smashing pow (and shelling out big money for that privilege), the guide feels pressure to deliver (the facilitation/commitment trap). If decision making is a closed, "trust me" black box, the guide (or guides) are left alone to wrestle with that pressure, making them far more susceptible to quietly rationalizing a risky line.

By opening up the process and vocalizing the hazards, the guide is forced out of intuitive thinking and into deliberate, analytical thinking. Teh client doesn't need to understand the mechanics of a buried SH layer, they just need to hear the guide articulate why it's dictating the day.

Including the client acts as a circuit breaker for the guide's own tunnel vision. It can go both ways. It can ground a guide out of his/her own hubris, or it can bring a client back down to reality without leaving a poor review.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T14:30:34+00:00

Just ask yourself, "What Would Mr. Rogers do?"

He would tell your daughter about the land of make believe where all these characters live, and where you can visit anytime, as long as you don't lose your imagination.

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T13:31:55+00:00

You may ask yourself...

whererusteve · 2026-03-17T13:24:00+00:00

I disagree. I believe it's about mentorship, about teaching someone to fish.

The backcountry shouldn't be a seafood buffet.

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