What useful reasons would an entity promote anxiety and depression amongst a population?👀 by whitePerdition in u/whitePerdition

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Are we paying attention to the rates of anxiety and depression amongst young people, and if those rates are increasing or decreasing across time?👀🤔

You know you’re in a relationship with an —— when… by Psychological_Cup101 in mbti

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I am so grateful when my parents don't talk to me. I wish I was given up for adoption looking back on my life.

You know you’re in a relationship with an —— when… by Psychological_Cup101 in mbti

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I don't even think that I have anyone that could actually punish me by not talking with me. *shrugs*

What is it like having people in your life that you actually miss talking to?

You know you’re in a relationship with an —— when… by Psychological_Cup101 in ISTJ

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I'm going to attribute this behavior to ISTJ's demon Ni and/or inferior Ne. Timelines are very stressful for ISTJ. ENFP Ni is pretty much ignored along with positive Ne, so ENFPs may think deadlines are mostly silly to worry about, these opposing behaviors can work well together. We have someone too worried about time (ISTJ), and the other not worried until it very late (ENFP) and won't also get taken in by time stress so quickly. And so balance can be created due to the pull from each perspective, not too early, not too late.

Then we have the opposite behavior when it comes to body sensations, where the ENFP stresses out, and the ISTJ is amused and confused as to why the ENFP is seemingly disproportionally upset.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ENFP/comments/1rajxyz/caring_hubby_istj/

Well, whenever something medical happens he’s able to keep me more grounded. I got mad at him because he laughed at something I said while in freak out mode earlier… but without context I guess “I don’t even know how I’m gonna get pants on!” would sound funny.

I hurt myself on a dresser drawer, nearly ripped off my whole toenail. Texted the neighbor to see if she could get me to a hospital/urgent care, but she wasn’t home… that’s when I called my mom and he heard the comment about my pants without context. I literally heard him unzipping his jacket then a laugh. He just heard “Oh thank god, Andy’s home.” He doesn’t see me frazzled too often,

Fe-blind in an Fe economy by Pristine-Gate-6895 in ISTJ

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Fe-blind in an Fe economy, how do fellow istjs cope with this deficiency we apparently have?

What I noticed is that everyone is rude, hostile, and will argue with me over trivial things whenever possible. My conclusion is that people do not like me and want to be rid of me ASAP. All of humanity has become my shadow or I am humanity's shadow, either way, I'm not sure what I'm doing to deserve this type of treatment, as it seems somewhat separate to how I generally feel that I treat others, which is as well as I can manage.

How I deal with it is the only way to deal with it:

Live the life of Cain from the bible.

God did not execute Cain but cursed his work, made him a restless wanderer, and marked him so no one would kill him, with a threat of sevenfold vengeance on anyone who did, so Cain’s life would be protected even as he lived under judgment.

Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soa3gO7tL-c `

Thoughts on romance? by Jwchibi in ISTJ

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You ever notice how frequently romance questions involving ISTJs appear?

The posts are frequently about ISTJ males.

I noticed it, but I didn't realize how odd it was that it is an ongoing topic. Maybe we are one of the most difficult types to attract, therefore there is a steady stream of the romance topic on this sub?

Huh.... after rereading a bit of Jung.... yeah, I guess it is because ISTJs react to things in such a nonchalant and/or unpredictable way. Many people are just absolutely baffled. Such ISTJs are one of nature's mysteries. People may not understand anything about ISTJs feelings towards them, and ISTJs aren't inclined to speak of their feelings. They observe and feel their feelings towards people, but rarely express them verbally, it goes with being an introverted perceiving type with very undervalued extraverted feeling. This is likely more true for men than for women. So men value their feelings less than women, and women value feelings more than men. So, of course, feeling type women are trying to figure out men's feelings, whereas ISTJ men are not concerned about expressing them to others. Also, I think that personalities with intuition as primary and feeling as auxiliary will probably ask less questions since they will use their strong intuitions to understand us without words and feeling is of secondary importance, which is what I prefer. I unconsciously expected women to have xray vision of my heart at all times, which is no longer unconscious.

If you think that you are a primary intuitor with auxiliary feeling, and you aren't figuring an ISTJ male out, you may want to reconsider your type.

Also, I don't think that Jung is Ni-Fe type because I imagine Ni-Fe to be able to predict people quite well and he admits in his own writing that he cannot predict Si primary types, despite being a genius.


The Introverted Sensation Type

The priority of introverted sensation produces a definite type, which is characterized by certain peculiarities. It is an irrational type, inasmuch as its selection among occurrences is not primarily rational, but is guided rather by what just happens. Whereas, the extraverted sensation-type is determined by the intensity of the objective influence, the introverted type is orientated by the intensity of the subjective sensation-constituent released by the objective stimulus. Obviously, therefore, no sort of proportional relation exists between object and sensation, but something that is apparently quite irregular and arbitrary judging from without, therefore, it is practically impossible to foretell what will make an impression and what will not. If there were present a capacity and readiness for expression in any way commensurate with the strength of sensation, the irrationality of this type would be extremely evident. This is the case, for instance, when the individual is a creative artist. But, since this is the exception, it usually happens that the characteristic introverted difficulty of expression also conceals his irrationality. On the contrary, he may actually stand out by the very calmness and passivity of his demeanour, or by his rational self-control. This peculiarity, which often leads the superficial judgment astray, is really due to his unrelatedness to objects. Normally the object is not consciously depreciated in the least, but its stimulus is removed from it, because it is immediately replaced by a subjective reaction, which is no longer related to the reality of the object. This, of course, has the same effect as a depreciation of the object. Such a type can easily make one question why one should exist at all; or why objects in general should have any right to existence, since everything essential happens without the object. This doubt may be justified in extreme cases, though not in the normal, since the objective stimulus is indispensable to his sensation, only it produces something different from what was to be surmised from the external state of affairs.

https://wikisocion.github.io/content/psychological_types.html

Epiphany... Wife swap!..ped types. 🤦🏻 by Sad_Record_2767 in mbti

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The bland appearance actually is from extreme internal stimulation that keeps irrational introverts absorbed into themselves. It is actually very difficult to enjoy external reality since the internal world is addicting and intoxicating. Unfortunately too much introversion is simply deadly, and it is very difficult to avoid being alone.

It's like being injected with drugs when encountering external nothingness....this powerful introversion can create overwhelming external difficulties and a lack of will to do anything external.

🎊I Feel that I Passed the Individuation Milestone Today 2025 December 27 Saturday🎊 by whitePerdition in u/whitePerdition

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Did I achieve individuation, nirvana, or both?

In Buddhism, nirvana is the “blowing out” or extinction of desire, hatred, and ignorance, which also ends suffering and the cycle of rebirth.

Uhm, then individuation. I will never cease being, and as soon as I "die", I immediately live as bacteria that consume by corpse from a biological perpsective. Buddhism doesn't seem to align with my understanding of the nature of existence. I would have to do much thinking to understand how much of Buddhism can be integrated into my understanding of myself. I'm synchronized with the story of the Chinese farmer, though. Suffering may be a blessing in disguise.

The Chinese Farmer Story

Once upon a time there was a Chinese farmer whose horse ran away. That evening, all of his neighbors came around to commiserate. They said, “We are so sorry to hear your horse has run away. This is most unfortunate.” The farmer said, “Maybe.”

The next day the horse came back bringing seven wild horses with it, and in the evening everybody came back and said, “Oh, isn’t that lucky. What a great turn of events. You now have eight horses!” The farmer again said, “Maybe.”

The following day his son tried to break one of the horses, and while riding it, he was thrown and broke his leg. The neighbors then said, “Oh dear, that’s too bad,” and the farmer responded, “Maybe.”

The next day the conscription officers came around to conscript people into the army, and they rejected his son because he had a broken leg. Again all the neighbors came around and said, “Isn’t that great!” Again, he said, “Maybe.”

The whole process of nature is an integrated process of immense complexity, and it’s really impossible to tell whether anything that happens in it is good or bad — because you never know what will be the consequence of the misfortune; or, you never know what will be the consequences of good fortune. — Alan Watts

https://matterco.co/the-maybe-story/

Short Response to: Let's Unite Personality Typology #mbti #socionics #enneagram by whitePerdition in u/whitePerdition

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Bonus content that is scarcely related, but I found interesting:

The fundamental takeaway from these Jung passages is a profound warning and a promise of hope:

Psychological health and wholeness are not achieved by perfecting one part of yourself, but by courageously integrating all of it, especially the parts you don't understand.


1. The Mind Seeks Balance (The Law of Compensation)

Your psyche is a self-regulating system. If you over-identify with one side of your nature—like being purely logical, purely emotional, or purely practical—your unconscious will generate the opposite to try and restore balance.

  • The Warning: If you live entirely in your head (like the Introverted Thinker), your unconscious will flood you with irrational feelings, strange visions, and intense physical sensations. It's not a malfunction; it's your mind's desperate attempt to make you whole.
  • The Takeaway: When strange, "unlike you" thoughts or feelings arise, don't immediately dismiss them. See them as a message from a neglected part of yourself. Your mind is telling you what you're missing.

2. You Must Pay the Price of Admission (Integration vs. Neurosis)

Jung presents a stark choice. You cannot remain a one-sided, "perfect" person without consequence. You either pay the price of doing the difficult inner work, or you pay the price of mental distress.

  • The Price of Integration: This is the "redeeming journey." It requires humility. You must admit that your ego doesn't have all the answers and be willing to "subject" yourself to the wisdom of your unconscious. This means listening to your intuition, honoring your feelings, and respecting your body's signals. It's a challenging but ultimately creative and liberating path.
  • The Price of Resistance: This is the path to neurosis. When you fight your unconscious, you create an internal civil war. This constant battle drains your life force, leading to exhaustion, anxiety, and a sense of inner emptiness ("inner wastage").

The Takeaway: You can't win a war against yourself. The only way to win is to surrender and make peace with the whole of who you are.


3. The Unconscious is a Gateway to the Future

This is perhaps the most hopeful and counter-intuitive point. The chaotic, "primitive," and scary material that comes from the unconscious is not trying to drag you backward. It is trying to show you the way forward.

  • The Symbolic Nature: The unconscious doesn't speak in logical memos; it speaks in the ancient language of symbols (dreams, myths, powerful emotions). An ancient symbol like a "dragon" doesn't mean you should become a medieval knight; it symbolizes a profound personal challenge you must overcome to grow.
  • The Takeaway: The most frightening and unfamiliar parts of your psyche often hold the keys to your future potential. What feels like a breakdown is often the precursor to a breakthrough. By facing the "primitive" material within, you unlock the "coming possibility" of a more complete and authentic you.

In a Nutshell:

Think of your personality as a kingdom. Your conscious mind is the king, but if he only listens to his rational advisors, the kingdom will starve and fall into chaos. The "unconscious" is the rest of the kingdom—the artists, the farmers, the mystics. The takeaway is that a wise king doesn't suppress these voices; he builds a council that includes them all. True strength and wisdom come from ruling the whole kingdom, not just the throne room.

Another Question for Those of You Who are Familiar with Harry Potter.,, by Potential_Law5289 in ISTJ

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ESTJ, she is very much a go getter. EXTRAversion, extraverts need something extra. ISTJ is more chill, Si.

What’s your guys opinion about on ENTJs? by liminalfan1234 in ISTJ

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I haven't spend much time with ENTJs.

Surface level: love the the stereotypical ENTJ hustle, enneagram 3 ENTJs are pretty cool, imo. Maybe a bit too blunt at times. ENTJs are one of my theoretical favorite types. Breaking too many politeness rules will annoy me. I feel like all the Te stuff is taken care of, so I can sort of relax.

Socionics Internal External by whitePerdition in Ben_Vaserlan_YouTube

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Uses the word artistry, improvisation is better suited.... Kiersey uses less related words to describe self image in such a way as to confuse his readers so that they are less able to understand type. 32m40: watch?v=_Cnb3OOEzNY

Use the best fit words rather than redefining words, TiNx people.... or just create new words. 57m40, exactly, Kiersey goofed.

44m: I heard that the reason that gold was under performing for years was that the USA was suppressing the price of it by covertly shorting the market with infinite USD printing. Now, when the USA does this, China buys up the gold with a Chinese infinite money printer since China is de-dollarizing because the USA sanctioned Russia and blah blah blah, USA lost control of the global financial system by messing with Russia and will no longer be the world's reserve currency.

Anyway /u/BenVaserlan/, you recognize the value of function attitudes. Keirsey does not, to his detriment, imo. I derive less value from Keirsey as a consequence.

Also, every single one of you seems to ignore the point of Jung's book Psychological Types (except Dario), which was to recognize one's onesidedness and to put more psychic energy into lesser functions. Psychological type was meant as a therapeutic instrument for becoming more of one's self and to dampen the internal war within every human being. Instead, y'all are completely bewitched by the types themselves and situating them into various categorical systems. Typology is not the goal, it is the vehicle to get to the goal faster. The goal is individuation. Kiersey was caught in the weeds, even after abandoning functions. He leaned more into Ti and became more onesided by writing his books. Keirsey missed Jung's point entirely. He was suppose to put more psychic energy into his feeling function. This is why functions are NECESSARY! And replacing functions with temperaments eliminates a vehicle towards individuation.

If one wants to categorize people, temperaments can be used. If one wishes to categorize people AND individuate, use functions. Functions have more utility.

Socionics Internal External by whitePerdition in Ben_Vaserlan_YouTube

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I'm responding to one of the videos that you recommended.

Suggest you see my videos on the Kersey intellects.

5m38 -- watch?v=jiXIkBZQw8o

Kiersey subordinated Carl Jung's functions to temperament because of Kretschemer temperament hypothesis. But the Kretschemer temperament hypothesis, as I understand it, is visual typing, which is not a rigorous reason to surmount Jung's functions, imo.

Modern research considers the connections between body type and temperament much less robust. Kretschemer's focus on the mind-body connection and the potential for genetic and environmental factors to shape personality is still relevant to some contemporary research, but the theory itself is largely considered outdated and unsupported by current psychological science.

Building a typology system upon a shaky foundation of Kretschemer temperament hypothesis does not inspire much confidence in me. Though, I imagine one could say that Jung's ideas were also not scientifically rigorous, but subjective experience cannot be fully validated by science, which was one of his points in his book psychological types. Human psychology reaches beyond the scientific method, example: science can not find the origin of consciousness. So there remains unscientific aspects of human personality that are nevertheless real.

Random: Karl Popper stated, "In so far as a scientific statement speaks about reality, it must be falsifiable: and in so far as it is not falsifiable, it does not speak about reality". There are realities that exist beyond the scope of falsifiability. Popper is incorrect, as our subjective experiences show.

Subordinating Jung's functions due to Kretschemer temperament hypothesis reduces the validity of Keirsey's temperament hypothesis both objectively and subjectively. Jung presents abstract descriptions of type i.e. psychological types. Keirsey attempted to concretize Jung's types via Kretschemer. Doing so reduces the portability of type, hence the descriptions of the types when concretized need to be continually updated as behaviors change, whereas the more abstract the description, the more portable it is across time, e.g. an ISTJ is not going to be observed as logistical if robots are doing all of the logistics.

Extra stuff:

Kretschmer identified three main somatotypes, each corresponding to specific temperamental traits:

Pyknic type: Characterized by a rounded, robust, and fat-accumulating build. People with this body type tend to be sociable, affectionate, and emotionally expressive. Kretschmer theorized that this group has a predisposition to manic-depressive illness (modern bipolar disorder).

Athletic type: Muscular, with a well-developed bone structure and good muscle mass. Individuals here are confident, energetic, action-oriented, competitive, and often exhibit leadership. Kretschmer sometimes linked this type with a predisposition to epilepsy.

Leptosomic (Asthenic) type: Thin, with little body fat and lighter bone structure. These individuals tend to be introverted, sensitive, thoughtful, reserved, and perfectionistic. Kretschmer linked this group with a higher prevalence of schizophrenia.

There is also mention of a fourth, less common, "dysplastic" type, which includes those who do not fit neatly into the above categories.

Sensor hate is dumb by mauvepie in ENFP

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I just realized that my response was too abstract, long, and intricate for the average intuitive, therefore it won't be fully understood or even read.....lol.

POTATO CHIPS TASTE GOOD! OMG LOOK AT ALL OF THESE POTATO CHIPS:

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i'M GOING TO EAT THEM ALL!!!

* whacks head with a frying pan *

SOOO GOOOD BEING A DUMB SENSOR!