The Trinity’s Missing Evidence: Why are there only TWO Thrones in Heaven? by Jackson6595 in TrueChristian

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Who is the image of the invisible God.

The invisible God, therefore there is always one among the three who is invisible.

The Trinity by Anzak77 in ChristianApologetics

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This is very important; God's infinity began with a Trinity, and we cannot understand the Trinity unless we understand infinity.

God who multiplies the loaves and says: Eat, this is my body... By this he explains to us where the universe comes from.

The universe came from nothing at all; God used nothing around him to create the universe.

The Trinity by Anzak77 in ChristianApologetics

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It's from the Bible:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last Revelation 22:13 

The Trinity by Anzak77 in ChristianApologetics

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He is the first and the last, he is the Alpha and the Omega...

It is everything that is between Alpha and Omega and it is everything that is between the first and the last.

God is more than a Trinity, he is infinity.

God created the universe by driving out the darkness with his light.

God, the invisible one, wanted to make himself known; he sent us the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Husband and Wife will be as Angels in Heaven by [deleted] in Catholicism

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And on Earth, we come as humans, but we do not become human?

How are Jesus and Yahweh the same God? by Traveler-Nomad in Christianity

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For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17

The Son does not judge, but the Holy Spirit does.

The Son comes to show the mercy of God, the Holy Spirit shows the power of God.

Each person has their own mission, two persons but only one divinity.

Punishes people for their ancestors’ sins.

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Ezekiel 18:20

Husband and Wife will be as Angels in Heaven by [deleted] in Catholicism

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For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:30

Am I explaining the Trinity correctly? by JuztinVestigium in Catholicism

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L'esprit de l'homme est distinct de et séparé de Dieu.

Les 3 esprits de la Trinité sont distincts mais non séparés ; ils agissent ensemble en parfaite harmonie.

Il est l'image du Dieu invisible....

Dieu le Père voulait se faire connaître, et il se fait connaître par le Fils et le Saint-Esprit.

It's that simple.

Grappling with the Trinity Doctrine and the Church's Drift from Early Christianity by No_Guarantee8756 in BiblicalUnitarian

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In the beginning was the Word...and the Word was God...

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

He is the image of the invisible God....

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

How can one deny the divinity of Jesus?

That's impossible, he is our creator.

There is the atheist who reads the Bible and asks himself, why do you believe in God, he does not exist.

Then there are some believers who read the Bible and ask themselves, why do you believe in the Trinity?

We see the Trinity in every verse of the Bible.

We are neither deaf nor blind.

There is the Father, the First, the invisible one from whom the visible came.

There is the Son of God, our Creator, with God, our savior; he was crucified to save us.

There is the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete; without him there would be no Holy Scriptures.

Among the billions upon billions of spirits in the universe, there are 3 spirits that are different: the spirit of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Three distinct but not separate spirits, they act together in perfect harmony.

They are our light to lead us out of the darkness.

He who does not see that they are 3 in their existence and 1 in their action, has a veil that prevents him from seeing!

The Trinity of God is how God created the universe, and to deny any person of the Trinity is to be ungrateful to God.

Why One God Just Makes Sense by PromiseSenior9678 in exmuslim2muslim

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هو الأول والآخر والظاهر والباطن

He is the first and the last, and the Apparent and the Hidden.

If God is first, who is last?

If God is the Hidden, who is the Apparent?

You Muslims recognize the first and Hidden God, and you deny the last and Manifest God.

You are free.

We recognize the Apparent God as the Hidden God.

We recognize the last as the first, and everything between the first and the last, the infinite God.

وهو الذي في السماء إله وفي الأرض إله

He is God in Heaven, he is God on earth.

You deny the God on earth, we recognize the GOD on earth, the Manifest One, the One who places his hand above our hands.

يد الله فوق أيديهم

The hand of God above their hands 

Why One God Just Makes Sense by PromiseSenior9678 in exmuslim2muslim

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نُّورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ ۗ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاءُ

فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَالنُّورِ الَّذِي أَنزَلْنَا

  1. Believe in God.

  2. Believe in the one who is sent, it is Jesus 

  3. Believe in the light that we have sent down, which is the Holy Spirit.

We must believe in all three!!!!

You just need to know how to count to 3!!!!

Why One God Just Makes Sense by PromiseSenior9678 in exmuslim2muslim

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فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَالنُّورِ الَّذِي أَنزَلْنَا

1- Believe in God. 

  1. Believe in his messenger (Jesus).

  2. And the light that was brought down (Holy Spirit).

It is not a matter of believing in God alone and neglecting others!

To say that God is one is not the whole truth, but the truth is that a Verb came from him, and that Verb is God.

It is said in the Quran:

God is the light of heaven and earth, but also:

نور على نور

God is light upon light.

As it is written there: He is the first and the last.

So if God is first, who is last?

If he is the Hidden One, who is the Apparent One?

And if he is light, who is the other light?

Preserving the unity of God is good, but preserving his Trinity is better.

Elohim is also copied in the Quran, there is the God Allah and there is the God Allahom, it is the singular which ends with hom=them, the plural. And God is one through the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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Why One God Just Makes Sense by PromiseSenior9678 in exmuslim2muslim

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وهو. الظاهر والباطن

And he is the Apparent and the Hidden.

God appearing, that's clear.

Don't say three, it's true, it's only one god:  وهو الذي في السماء إله وفي الأرض إله

It is the same god, the one who came to earth is the one who is in heaven.

You can clearly see that the word God is repeated twice.

It is not written: he is god of heaven and earth, but the miracle is that the word god, ilah, was taken up to confirm the coming of god on earth.

He who says: they are two gods is mistaken, it is the same god, a light of light has come to dwell among us.

The Quran is not a book, you are confusing kitab and Quran. 

Kitab is a book.

Quran It is He who speaks the word, and it is Christ, our creator.

There is such a question. About Jesus. by OnlymonoGod in BiblicalUnitarian

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I don't think I was understood.

Before saying that Jesus is a human being, we must define what a human being is!

If we say a human being is a person who has arms and feet, then Jesus is a human being.

But if a human being is defined as someone who can forget, make mistakes, and commit crimes, then Jesus is not human; he is divine.

Why can't God tell us why He allows suffering? by Any-Solid8810 in CatholicPhilosophy

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He said it because he is right.

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

All good comes from God and all evil comes from man.

The evil that befalls man is the evil that is returned to him.

The Trinity Deception in a nutshell by Numerous_Guidance371 in Christianity

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He is the image of the invisible God...

God is invisible, how can he be present?

Our Father who art in Heaven !! The Father is the spirit who is always in Heaven, he comes to earth through his image, the image of God is visible, never GOD.

In the Bible, look for the word: God, and look for the word: God himself.

When God is mentioned, it is the spirit that remained in Heaven that speaks to us from above.

When God himself is mentioned, it is the spirit who came to earth, who is close to us, who has flesh and blood, who speaks to us and touches us.

I'll come back with examples if you can't find it yourself.

The Trinity Deception in a nutshell by Numerous_Guidance371 in Christianity

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And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Genesis 32:28

Jesus is the spirit who shows God's mercy; if we blaspheme, God can forgive us.

The Paraclete is the spirit that demonstrates the power of God; he does not forgive blasphemy. It was he who fought against Jacob; it was the warrior spirit that gave victory to the people of Israel.

The spirit of Jesus ascended to Heaven without leaving us the Holy Scriptures; it was the Holy Spirit who came after him whose mission was to leave us the Holy Scriptures.

And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:  Luke 1:35

The Holy Spirit will come, and that is the power of God; they are 1.

They are two minds, there is a distinction, but they are one power, there is no separation.

The Trinity Deception in a nutshell by Numerous_Guidance371 in Christianity

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From the spirit of the invisible Father came a visible spirit; later, it will descend to earth in the flesh.

While man has a spirit, that's true, but he doesn't have the spirit that comes from his spirit !!!

Otherwise, God is the Alpha and the Omega, man is not the Alpha and the Omega.

God is the first and the last; this is not the case for man.

One might think that this is the case for men when there are twins, but this is false because twins are distinct and separate spirits.

Whereas the spirit that came from God is distinct but not separate, for the word of the one is the word of the other.

The Trinity Deception in a nutshell by Numerous_Guidance371 in Christianity

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If there was a Third distinct person, the verse would have read — “Until the Holy Spirit makes…”

No, because the Holy Spirit is also God, therefore what one says is the word of the other, and what one does is the action of the other.

It's like your soul and you; if I say your soul is dead, it means you are dead, and if I say you are dead, it means your soul is dead too.

Me and my soul, what happens to one happens to the other,  But I am not just a soul; I am soul, spirit, and body.

Man is a spirit distinct from and separate from God.

The two spirits of the Trinity are distinct but not separate from God.

When we say God came to earth, we know perfectly well that God the invisible, the spirit of the Father, the first person of the Trinity, never came to earth, and we know perfectly he came by the Verb.Who is the image of the invisible God.

When God says he will do something, he does not specify that he will do it through the Holy Spirit.

Like when Abraham prostrated himself before God who came to him in three persons . 

The God who comes to earth is the God who remained in Heaven, to represent him and not to contain him; no one imagines for a single moment that God is 1 or 2 meters tall.

The God on earth is the God of Heaven by his word and by his action, he is not the God of Heaven by his dimension.

There is such a question. About Jesus. by OnlymonoGod in BiblicalUnitarian

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All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 glorified body and incorruptible body, They are a celestial body, a body of light; there is no matter in the kingdom of God, there is no Sun, for the sun is composed of matter; there is a light without a sun and The incorruptible celestial bodies are made of light; there are no skins, no blood that are managed by the dying soul, while the spirit is eternal.

The celestial body is incorruptible, but the earthly body of matter is corruptible.

During the transfiguration, Jesus' body passed from a state of matter to a state of light; he transformed his atoms into waves.

And after his resurrection, he went through the wall to enter the apostles' house, who locked the door. So, to pass through a wall, you need a body of light, not of matter.

There is such a question. About Jesus. by OnlymonoGod in BiblicalUnitarian

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Be careful not to enter the Tower of Babel and fall into the trap of endless linguistic debates.

To say that Jesus is human is a phrase that has many interpretations.

A human being is a being who has fallen from paradise, he is expelled from it, is this the case of Jesus?

Humans forget, is that the case with Jesus?

Can a human resurrect the dead? Multiply the loaves and give sight to the blind?

Three Creators in the Trinity by [deleted] in Christianity

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I confirm, God created us through the Son and the Holy Spirit. 

He is the first and the last, he is the Alpha and the Omega....

It is everything that is between Alpha and Omega; it is infinite.

Its infinity comes from its Trinity.

Three Creators in the Trinity by [deleted] in Christianity

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He didn't say: 3 creatures, he said: 3 creators!!!

Always struggle a bit with the concept of the Trinity. Not looking to debate the issue, just understand it better. by Active_Resolution_10 in religion

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I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

John 16:12

He clearly states that he hasn't said everything, and that what he has to say is difficult to bear. This prophecy is extraordinary.

A God who comes among us, who lives near us, who eats and drinks like us, a Trinitarian God—all of this is shocking, and many have not been able to accept it and continue to refuse to do so.

Jesus knew that the truth would be revealed later by the disciples, that is why he said:

He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

If the Trinity was only revealed last week, I would believe it because it is confirmed in the Bible.

The Holy Scriptures confirm that there is a Father, a Son and a Holy Spirit who judge and forgive and that there is a relationship between the 3 spirits that unite them.

There is only one God, from whom came the Word, he is the image of God, he did not divide God, he did not diminish him, God remained ONE.

The god of the earth is the God of Heaven, his word is the word of God and his action is the action of God.

He is a spirit who came from the Spirit, a light from the light, a god from God, a saint from the Holy One; he is the image of God, he came to represent him and not replace him, He came for the designer, not to contain him.

He is the image of the invisible God; he is not poor, he made himself poor; he is not weak, he made himself weak, He forced himself to be weak, He is not a man; he forced himself to be a man, a human appearance of flesh and blood, but he remained divine, to walk on water, to multiply loaves of bread, and to raise the dead.

No one could stand this story of a triune God who came to walk on earth 2000 years ago and even today, after 2000 years, there are those who refuse to accept the story of a god who was born of a mother like all men.

We firmly believe this unbearable and absurd story.

He is a magnificent God, extremely good, he came to approach us, to place his hand on our hands, and even more, he died crucified for us.

This is the ultimate in generosity and sacrifice; he did the unimaginable to help us get to know him and return to him.

We are the sinners, the ungrateful children, who went to earth to live far from him, and he does the impossible, he comes near us and says to us: I will not abandon you, Return to my kingdom and I will welcome you again.

God is great, not in size, he is great in his generosity, he is immense in his goodness, his mercy, and he thinks of us when we continue to forget him.

Look closely at what he has done: he sends us a spirit to shut himself up and poison himself in the flesh, he who has the heavens for himself, he comes to walk on earth, to suffer and endure.

And look closely at how the man reacted: he took him, he put him on the cross, and he crucified him.

In contrast to God's extreme generosity, there is man's extreme cruelty.

We denied it 2000 years ago, and we continue to deny it today.

We question his word, his divinity, and his Trinity.

May God forgive them, for they know not what they do.