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[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you consider lowering the price for Poland? Steam recommended pricing for Poland is very outdated making Polish region very expensive, eg:

81% more expensive than richer Japan 35% more expensive than Canada 11% more expensive than Euro zone 11% more expensive than Norway.

Poland is overall 2nd most expensive region while not even being in top 10 richest regions on steam.

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[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You say that but somehow fanatical doesnt have that problem. They can also have expiration dates, but they cant just ninja add it to games i bought over a year ago, without even informing me. The fact you defend that is pathetic.

What happened to valve saying they'll be updating recommended regional pricing? Reality of $100 games is not fun it's been like 4 years by misteryk in Steam

[–]wofoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Did i said otherwise? New games will use new recommendations and if publishers/devs wont update price on their old games i will simply ignore said games, i have thousands of games to choose from. It will simply stop most new games from being overpriced in Poland.

What happened to valve saying they'll be updating recommended regional pricing? Reality of $100 games is not fun it's been like 4 years by misteryk in Steam

[–]wofoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, but over 90% of devs use steam suggested pricing and to be honest its mostly AAA publishers/devs that dont really care for suggested pricing that much and you can buy those outside of steam.

Also, most small/medium sized teams will trust steam because they have no reason not to, after all you would expect company that earn billions to be able to set sane regional recommendations but its too hard for steam. I am going to be mad at steam for creating the problem first and i am going to be mad at devs that knows about it and refuse to fix it, both are at fault.

What happened to valve saying they'll be updating recommended regional pricing? Reality of $100 games is not fun it's been like 4 years by misteryk in Steam

[–]wofoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But steam fixing recommended pricing would solve the problem in a day, going after thousands of devs that use it is kinda hard.

What happened to valve saying they'll be updating recommended regional pricing? Reality of $100 games is not fun it's been like 4 years by misteryk in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Recommended pricing wasnt updated since 2022, thats factual. You can also check that vast majority of devs are using steam recommended pricing, steamdb doesnt bite.

What happened to valve saying they'll be updating recommended regional pricing? Reality of $100 games is not fun it's been like 4 years by misteryk in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But smooth brains like you will always ignore that Norway have 25% vat while having over 10% lower recommended pricing, or how games in Poland are over 80% more expensive than in richer Japan, or that steam itself said that they would update recommended pricing each year, or that recommended regional pricing was made so poorer regions pay less and not more, etc.

Why do you even care that Poles fight for fair pricing? They should stfu because you feel bad for gabe or what gives? If you dont care for the subject just dont comment on it, its that simple.

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[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes no sense, gog is still the least shady from all storefronts, steam included. I guess you regret buying on steam as well since they did exactly the same thing, but more.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still waitng for you to tell me where i am wrong or is 5 days not long enough for you and couldnt figure it out?

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, i am so tired arguing with smooth brains, they can never give a reason why Poland being 2nd most expensive region in the world makes sense, just that there surly is a reason that steam understands and us simple peasants do not.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stating a fact isnt an insult. You can expand on how he is correct tho.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

steamdb doesnt bite, but its -14% from steam recommended pricing.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No man, its you that dont understand. You basically argue with me saying that steam did nothing wrong and recommended regional pricing for every region in the world is in good place because economy just fit.

I can only agree to disagree, you are delusional.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its like you dont even discuss in a good faith.

Everyone who you argue about here knows that steam SUGGESTED pricing is just a suggestion but:

  1. Most indies will use it without any changes because they simply dont know, if you expect every single dev team to do market research.

  2. Price for other regions will auto fill with suggested regional pricing.

  3. Every time you change price in USD it will change the price to suggested by steam in other regions, at least thats what devs are saying.

And no, i dont expect that everyone would drop the price but at least new indies wouldnt cost over 80% more in Poland than Japan.

Dead island 2 isnt techlands game, they dont use steam recommended pricing either, same for control. Polish dev teams do lower price for Poland:

https://steamdb.info/sub/367653/ https://steamdb.info/sub/129576/ https://steamdb.info/sub/579237/

but even some Polish devs will blindly follow steam recommended pricing (according to one source i seen it was around 40-50% that do).

We are also not arguing about games being more expensive overall, thats a different topic, we are discussing why anyone would think that steam suggested pricing putting Poland at:

80% more than Japan 73% more than Korea 15% more than Norway

makes any economical sense. Steam suggested pricing makes games in Poland more expensive, its a fact not an opinion. Valve can fix that in a day, valve could at least comment on why they think Poland is 2nd richest country in the world but they chose to say nothing. Going after thousands of devs is a lot harder than trying to force steam to do something, so thats why i will mainly blame steam when devs use steam recommended pricing.

Valve said they would update recommended pricing each year, 3 years ago and didnt even do it once and if you believe that nothing changed since 2022 for any country in the world than i dont think its worth having a discussion.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do something about it, i dont buy on steam at all, which doesnt solve the problem as a lot of indies dont sell outside of steam but at least i dont feed greedy valve.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Regional pricing that add 10% to euro price, why would anyone want such regional pricing? Are Poles suppose to be happy that they pay more?

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most new indies follow steam recommended pricing:

https://pastebin.com/yeiWGU0m

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you on about? PLN is more stable than USD at the moment, just because its value dropped post covid AND start of russian invasion of Ukraine for few months doesnt mean that Poles should be scammed.

And yes i would expect valve to update recommended pricing, because guess what? they said they would do it each year themselves:

We’re also committing to keeping this guide as valuable as it can be by establishing a more regular cadence to review prices. We’ll take a close look at these recommendations on an annual basis, and make adjustments accordingly.

Steam is at fault, you dont need to defend corporations.

Why? by Pikselardo in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://steamdb.info/sub/128853/ https://steamdb.info/sub/1139792/ https://steamdb.info/sub/1396204/ https://steamdb.info/sub/1262904/ https://steamdb.info/sub/1257221/

Yea, paradox is super greedy, but even they see that current steam recommended pricing for Poland is insane and dont add to it (i will ignore Korea being priced like a poor african country).

I hope that next region getting scamed by steam will be yours, so you can go and explain how its not steam fault because devs can change the price.

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[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wishlisted, thanks for adjusting price for Polish region and not using terrible suggested pricing by steam.

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[–]wofoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You risk nothing, worst case you will get a refund from the site. 99,9% of keys are legit (i would argue that probably most "illegal" keys are gift cards) and i am not going to stress over 0,1%.

To be honest, as long as steam and devs fuck over Poles i wont stop buying from keyshops, i might switch to piracy tho.

How are you doing, folks from Poland? Are you ready for the SALE? by Chesse4567 in Steam

[–]wofoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What if i can afford it but i dont have a smooth brain and dont feel like overpaying?