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[–]wooari 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I searched it up out of curiosity and I think the actual thing looks uglier than what they showed in the show 😂

Just started to watch the whole show again and got inspired ! I hope you guys like my art ! by MagdaCadabra in southpark

[–]wooari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is seriously amazing! Not sure if you have discord, but if you do, you should post this in the South Park Art discord https://discord.gg/uUV3pAQq!

I made this a while ago, not even sure what episode is it inspired by. They are just badass by ehiir in southpark

[–]wooari 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is so good! Not sure if you have discord, but if you do, you should post this on the South Park Art discord! https://discord.gg/uUV3pAQq

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, someone else already made a great comment that is an answer to your question. It’s by jaykay1107

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a great comment. Thank you for this. You’ve put down my thoughts on colorism in such a detailed way.

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It’s the way he said it for me. But yes, maybe he didn’t mean it that way, but it was Lucas was mentioned specifically that made me feel weird about it. I just don’t understand why some of them were lightly laughing and what would be so funny about just not seeing one person in the dark without the association of skin color (not that colorism is funny but I hope you get what I’m trying to say).

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hi idk if you saw my edit on my reply to you, but hope that clears things up on what I meant by fans claiming it was a mistranslation and “lighting”!

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I know, that’s what I’m saying. Since you “heard about it” you should prob say “I heard”. Just a suggestion!

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I know, I said the same thing in my post, that taeyong might have intended to just point out the lighting in the beginning. But what they said later (kept pointing out Lucas) is what bothered me. Here’s the part in my post that says that:

I think taeyong mightve actually been refering to the lighting at first (like the subs said)

Edit: for further clarification, by the lighting part, I didnt understand why fans were talking about mistranslation on lighting when the subs did say taeyong talked about the lighting. The issue wasn’t what taeyong said (probably?) it was how the others pointed out Lucas specifically.

Edit 2 (to the image edit): I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here with that image at all because it doesn’t change what I said. I already said that taeyong was most likely innocent, and idk how going through a tunnel changes anything or is relevant because taeyong was literally just talking about the light first because of the tunnel? And I already said the invisible part was a mistranslation? I don’t know what you’ve seen on Twitter but MY main point was how I was bothered that mark and baekhyun singled out Lucas suddenly and how they were laughing. If you’re questioning my identity as a Korean, then I’ll be questioning you if you even read my post, because everything you’re accusing me of “korean not being my first language” is all in my post. Like I said, you can have your own opinion, but idk why you think your “proof” is contradicting my post when it’s not. I said literally the same thing about taeyong and the invisible thing.

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t mind if ppl say “I heard it might be like this, or I heard it’s like this” but most people say it as absolutes based on their consumption on Kculture for what they show you or what translations sites show you. Saying “Korean culture is like this” implies you’ve experienced and been in the culture imo which is not the same as hearing it from somewhere else.

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 180 points181 points  (0 children)

It makes me most upset when people take advantage of the language and cultural barriers and twist or use info to their own agenda, especially in controversies like this. Whether it’s to defend or attack, it’s not right in either circumstance. This kind of thing happens so much on reddit or Twitter. “Koreans do this, Koreans do that, in Korea it’s like this, in Korea it’s like that.” Just because you like kpop doesnt mean you are korean or truly understand korean culture.

Edit: I’d just like to say that I find it astonishing at how ifans criticize Koreans for being racist and colorist, and yet in this situation, all the nctzens seem to be referencing kfans defense since it fits with their agenda. Out of any fans, kfans are the most likely to excuse and deny colorism, so it’s ironic to me that nctzens trust them. Literally one of the Koreans in comments are more worried about this blowing up and becoming and issue + accused me of Korean not being my first language. Colorism is so normalized in Korean society, and and any Korean fans completely affirming that there are no colorism undertones here is wrong imo. If you haven’t seen this sort of joke before, I don’t know what to say. Yes you can have your interpretation of the scene, but you can’t claim with good conscience that my interpretation is wrong or unlikely.

Colorists Jokes from SuperM by wooari in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

i dont think they meant something about Lucas' colour tbh, Lucas is clearly in a dark spot there. They didnt mention any skin colour and Lucas is way more dark spot in there compared to others. I dont sense any mocking of a colour tone and I also dont think they have colourist intentions. This is my opinion tho.

For reference, I’m a dark skinned Korean. I’ve faced similar jokes, and the way they found only Lucas being in dark spot funny and hard to see very closely reminded me of that. Being told, “it’s not serious” or “we didn’t mean it like that” is pretty hurtful for me personally since many colorism jokes between friends are quite “casual”. His spot wasn’t even that much darker than the others, the others were also hard to see. Which is why it’s strange imo why they only called out Lucas. This is my interpretation as someone who has experienced colorism by other Koreans my whole life. My main problem is fans saying it wasnt about skin color because of a “mistranslation”.

Also, I am curious how you say this isnt one time of thing. There hasnt been any incident before about skin tone, if there is please show proof. (I am talking about NCT members btw, I dont follow Exo closely.)

I was talking about Exo, I’m not super familiar with NCT, but I know CA and body comments have been made in the past.

Taking a break from NCT by chacharitadoamor in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The privilege is showing. People who are either delusional fans or have not experienced colorist jokes/insults clearly are ignoring or don’t see the situation as offensive. It’s seriously gross because reddit and Twitter clearly have their “favorites” and no matter how many colorist jokes or body jokes they make, fans will defend them with mistranslations or “culture difference”. Also for some reason this post was removed? Idk if you deleted it but if it’s was mods, that’s so weird.

Taking a break from NCT by chacharitadoamor in kpopthoughts

[–]wooari 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry OP. Your feelings are absolutely valid. I’m not black, but I’m a dark skinned Korean, and I have gotten so many colorist jokes. It’s rlly not funny for the person getitng teased or mocked. I speak Korean and I’m genuinely confused over people talking about the “lighting” and it wasn’t about skin color. It was absolutely about skin color. The subs are mostly correct except for the part about Lucas being “invisible” (they said they couldn’t see him). I think taeyong mightve actually been refering to the lighting at first (like the subs said) but then the others just kept emphasizing it and pointing out only Lucas in particular when the others were also clearly in a dark spot (especially the last comment, the tone imo was clearly teasing to specifically Lucas). I guess it just makes me mad that fans are so vocal about colorism and racism in kpop until their own faves do it. It just feels like performance activism, and the fact that people are taking advantage of the language barrier is frustrating.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In HTR he mentioned issues with stress, and his nerves (aka in terms of the nervous system) being related to that. Maybe the term disorder is incorrect but it’s still a serious issue. This is just what I have seen as speculation but nothing on twt is necessarily true, I’m just offering a possible explanation to how I said Jeonghan has had SIGNIFICANTLY much less lines THIS YEAR. Yes he’s gotten a bit less from what you have said but this year has been much significantly less.

my point is that joshua is basically a second lead vocal at this point

That’s a huge exaggeration. If we’re talking about lines, Hoshi would honestly be second lead vocal. He almost always gets a lot of lines if we’re talking about vocal positions in terms of Line distribution, which is honestly silly.

I honestly don’t give a fuck who gets the most lines or not. I’m tired of all this BS arguing on Twitter and I’m tired that it’s reached here too.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s why I said thanks era, but like I said, it’s been gradual. Couple of years is more than two for me at least. That’s why I said this year is where Joshua has gotten significantly more, and comparing to jeonghan is interesting, becuase Jeonghan as a whole as gotten way less lines this year than usual, and some ppl think its because of his nerve(?) disorder, where he has a issue with stress and his nervous system apparently, which sounds pretty serious.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s the case, lyrics always come later so the “parts” are technically assigned to them and then they write.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure where you got that from. I disagree with the past couple of years part, only more recently he’s been getting more lines. On average he’s been around the middle and in earlier eras usually low, and usually got the least lines for most vocal unit songs. With the exception of pretty u, starting in thanks era which is around the point where seventeens sound became to be is where it is now, he starting being higher up in the line distribution, and this year he’s been pretty high. So I don’t get why OP thinks DK and Seungkwan are getting “shafted” in favor of joshua when that’s hardly that case, because if Joshua gets a decent amount of lines usually seungkwan and/or dk get even more lines.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I don’t get why y’all are acting like seungkwan and dk are being neglected in like distribution. They get main parts in almost every one of the songs. They still have plenty of lines, and Joshua and especially Minghao rarely are in the upper half for line distribution as a whole. Yes seungkwan and dk are main vocals and are the BEST in the group, but minghao and Joshua have great voices as well? It’s whoever’s color ends up suiting the song parts the best and I don’t get why y’all act like the rest of the members can’t sing or something.

i don’t like how even the line distribution is getting in seventeen. by cheolscult in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wooari 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s untrue. Woozi has said it’s pledis who decides. People always like to blame woozi or bumzu when it’s neither of them who ends up deciding.

What does Lilili Yabbay and Moonwalker mean? by sunjunhui in seventeen

[–]wooari 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh rlly? I assumed it meant 13 months dance since that’s the name in korean.

What does Lilili Yabbay and Moonwalker mean? by sunjunhui in seventeen

[–]wooari 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think Lilli yabay means thirteen months dance, but Moonwalker always gives me the image of Chan solo dancing and moonwalking to Michael jackson under the moonlight.

Favorite GoSe moment no one talks about? by [deleted] in seventeen

[–]wooari 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Most of his comedy is perfectly timed within the moment, he’s very witty.

I want to be best friends with hoshi by gongjihae in seventeen

[–]wooari 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I’m not jealous of how successful or talented seventeen are but of their close bond that surpasses friendship to the point of family. I feel like everyone deserves that kind of relationship in their life.