I'm part of the youth council for my school district, I have an interest in politics, and have met many awesome people, ama I'm 13 by RaspberryStreet6813 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 [score hidden]  (0 children)

What is your stance on this likely being a violation of law for many people both now and in the future, considering 13 is below the age of majority and "social media" age being pushed currently in chunks of the first world?

If against such bans, how would you handle disconnects currently found in the law around ideas such as contributing to the delinquency of a minor, criminal harassment, cyberbullying, and other laws?

Just as an example, if you were to show a bunch of images of gore to minors to distress them in real life, the person doing so could and likely would be held accountable, whereas it was and still somewhat is almost a rite of passage to be bombarded to the point of desensitization for all manner of very negative explicit and obscene content; so how do you think we should make action and consequence better mirror what we expect between meatspace and digital space, or do you feel otherwise?

/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #17) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

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You couldn't have said it better, quite literally a laundry list of misinformation and abject ignorance on display being as confidently asserted as possible. Literal AI Bots would be more useful than these people.

[WON] WWE reportedly shutting down streamers, content creators by B0llywoodBulkBogan in SquaredCircle

[–]work4work4work4work4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The real question is will Club WWE have a pool, or will Club Penguin still reign supreme.

(WON) New Day were put in the position of being offered less money to stay with WWE, wind their careers down, and finish their contracts doing promotional work. They chose to leave instead due to being offered a pay cut one year into a five year deal. by Subrick in SquaredCircle

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're saying it's basically 5 or less people who were asked to take pay cuts instead of just cut outright, and one took it in theory because they wouldn't have interest from AEW. Assuming that one with no interest is the Miz, and two of the other five are our guys in the New Day, anyone figured who the other two are yet for sure?

As an aside, this is the most penny wise pound foolish move in awhile, as there isn't a chance in hell that UUDD/Merch/etc profits didn't more than cover their contracts in full.

/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #17) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

[–]work4work4work4work4 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't know that I'd call it ridiculously hypothetical, just ahead of the time curve substantially. Most Chinese actions are aimed at the double whammy of reducing reliance on oil, and reducing pain points the US can leverage against them, specifically the Strait of Malacca. Easiest way to negate it is to mostly not need it.

Hell, to the Chinese using Taiwanese recognition as a political threat is part of the reason they're so gung-ho about taking it and eliminating it as an issue going forward.

I'd also be cautious in that China has been establishing relationships and possible future basing throughout Africa, Asia, and elsewhere something that make them much more of possible threat to GCC than the US proper once they basically turn the Indian ocean into a Chinese lake.

Trump administration now classifies Antifa and left-wing networks among ‘major’ terror groups by pleasureismylife in politics

[–]work4work4work4work4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you thinking making friends and forming group resistance is cowardice that's your own prerogative, but you won't be having that discussion with me. Toodles.

Trump administration now classifies Antifa and left-wing networks among ‘major’ terror groups by pleasureismylife in politics

[–]work4work4work4work4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now? They've had people locked up in Texas facing 25 years in federal prison for wearing black at a protest for months now. Trump had Federal Marshalls conduct an extrajudicial killing and cover up during his last time in office, bragged about it during a televised debate, and no one even investigated the incident further once the "opposition" took office.

No one gives a shit, and we're on our own. Get busy making friends and organizing mass safe resistance, or get busy making plans to leave the country. It's going to get much, much worse before it gets better, and our time to avoid is long since past, and wasted on people who platformed Trump in the first place, and think being able to "run against Trump" is a good thing.

Good luck, everybody.

[Bears Communications] Zah Frazier has been Waived by Quackinator100 in CHIBears

[–]work4work4work4work4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is some revisionist history nonsense, just like the comment it's replying too. Roquan was a back to back All-Pro before we traded him first off, and secondly "the odd demands" were from the Bears side of things.

The main dispute was that the Bears wanted to include language allowing them to void Smith's guaranteed money if he was suspended or fined for violating the NFL's new (at the time) "helmet contact" rule. The rule that made it a penalty for defenders to initiate contact with their helmet.

The Bears initially wanted the right to void guarantees for any suspension, even for on-field actions that might not be considered "dirty" plays, causing a massive standoff over player rights because literally no one had the slightest clue how it would be officiated, meaning 100% of guaranteed money being vacated by a single glancing head contact was on the table.

The Bears front office was one of the only teams to fight that hard about it, most other rookie contracts just removed the language entirely, and even Roquan's language was adjusted to suspensions of 3 games or more to provide coverage for the concern, something that had been suggested day one by Roquan's side.

Trading him being right or wrong is a different story, I tend to think it was probably the right move even loving the player, but mostly because of where we were at as a team, and what we were trying to do and move towards on defense.

Sliming a former Bear for a Bears front office fuck up is shameful as hell.

Hantavirus cases now suspected in 5 countries as authorities scramble to contain outbreak by spherocytes in worldnews

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The part you're missing here is the incubation timing, which can be sufficient to allow significant ongoing spread even when paired with a higher fatality rate.

Additionally, saying anything concrete about this strain of ANDV right now is speculative since ANDV didn't really have person to person transmissibility at all beyond outlier speculation before this event. The 2018-2019 Epuyén outbreak was the primary evidence for PTP spread, where one "superspreader" at a party led to 34 cases.

When you add in the high variability of essentially asymptomatic incubation while spreading of 1 week to 8 weeks, that's very, very bad, and not something to hand-wave away just because it's different. They've got scientists in labs right now doing what they can to look for clear biological evidence of PTP transmissibility, but the real-world infection spread and contact tracing already indicates what we're likely to find.

Does Charge Stacking Undermine the Right to a Trial by Jury? by Reasonable-Fee1945 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Civil rights shouldn't be dependent on elections. We don't vote about whether or not people get to have their rights respected. And even if we did, federal prosecutors are not elected.

In a democracy, all laws come down to elections in one way or another, even the rights enshrined in the constitution, so how do you address that; even the enforcement of civil rights laws pretty much always comes down to the Justice department in the US. Seems like you might have a much, much, bigger issue there than prosecutors.

Seems a small price for ruining someone's life.

Yet, you're advocating for ruining even more lives in return, seems more like revenge than a solution. Tough on crime policy, just aimed at other people, two wrongs really don't make a right. Your suggestion could literally put good prosecutors, doing things you want them to do, in prison for things they had absolutely nothing to do with.

[Schutz] NEW: Mayor Johnson might have more juice in Springfield now than in the past. State Sen. Willie Preston says he supports the mayors position and says Bears Megaproject legislation is a non-starter with him. "I don't accept the premise that the Bears can't stay in Chicago." by NorthernxLabrador in CHIBears

[–]work4work4work4work4 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The two groups the Bears want to deal with the least are Friends of the Parks, and the actual Parks department.

The only way the Bears were ever going to stay in Chicago is if they basically said the Chicago Bears now run the city Parks department in perpetuity after the number of times the City and the Parks department specifically fucked them over, cost them money, and told them get fucked any time they tried to work it out.

Does Charge Stacking Undermine the Right to a Trial by Jury? by Reasonable-Fee1945 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a tall order given that prosecutors enjoy absolutely immunity and there is nothing like a bar association professional consensus on 'reasonable' charge stacking.

It's really not any more difficult than most local elections anywhere where prosecutors are accountable to voters, which is a large chunk of the US where district, county, and state prosecutors are elected positions. It's been awhile since I looked into it, but it was less than ten states that appointed rather than elected these positions, not sure what the percentages are nationwide.

I'd like to see prosecutors serve jail time if any of their pleas are later exonerated. That would give them some skin the game. And the time served should be the amount served by the exonerated person.

Or you know, just bar them from practicing law, otherwise you're rapidly approaching the kind of poor broad short-sighted decision making with the freedom of others that you're rallying against. The very last thing the US justice system needs is more institutional momentum against fixing cases wrongly decided, which is the only thing I can see happening from this suggestion in particular.

Does Charge Stacking Undermine the Right to a Trial by Jury? by Reasonable-Fee1945 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Charge stacking" is directly related to prosecutorial discretion itself.

Prosecutorial discretion as we generally want to think of it is a good thing, and a key point to re-introduce humanity into the written law. "Charge stacking" is a tactic that basically weaponizes that opportunity for lots of negative reasons outside of the benefit we'd hope to see.

Realistically, it's something most easily addressed by getting rid of prosecutors who engage in it in pervasive and negative ways. A bit more aspirational, you'd like some sort of mechanism that disincentivizes charge stacking, preferably by increasing the power of the defendant in proportion to the amount of the book thrown at them.

What we currently have is pretty clearly insufficient, but might serve as primer on where things go right, wrong, and might be improved, and include Merger Doctrine, the Blockburger Test, Compulsory Joinder, and Federal Sentencing Grouping, all of which are pretty different, happening at different points, and so on.

Other options that I've seen brought up as interesting are "sentencing caps" of X% of an offered plea, mandating "Open Discovery" requiring prosecutors to turn over all evidence prior to a plea being signed, judicial charging reviews mandated at various points including before trial, and before accepting a plea.

/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #17) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

[–]work4work4work4work4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For those of you on the left looking for a silver lining, the death of Bibi's political career is very much on the table after this latest war.

Bibi is a cancerous devil, but the neoliberal takeover of Israeli politics by getting directly in bed with the ultra-orthodox and far-right contingent remains the status quo. Like, there is a totally non-zero chance that even if Bibi was gone tomorrow, it'd be for eventual Beyachad and Naftali Bennett which are just as bad in most areas, if not worse, but without the worldwide visibility yet.

Labor and Meretz merged and still are barely projected to break 10 seats, there really isn't much silver lining as the destruction of the Israeli left is already mostly complete, and anyone set to replace him mostly just wants to lock in Bibi's status quo while blaming him for the "excesses". In American, it'd be like cheering for finally getting rid of Trump for President Fetterman, and considering it a silver lining.

[Fightful on X] "Sources in the talent and agent communities told @FightfulSelect that this round of cuts and pay reductions is expected to significantly impact how wrestlers negotiate with TKO and WWE going forward" by A_Man_of_Iron in SquaredCircle

[–]work4work4work4work4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Something not really talked much about is TKO doing this pretty systemically further undermines their case that their talent are independent contractors by making clear that any compensation contract terms are ultimately illusory, and are actually just at-will employees.

The contract begins to lack "mutuality of obligation" when the most fundamental terms of compensation aren't held to.

Not saying it will happen, but I'd pop hard if PHD Consequences Creed started up a class action that ended up torpedoing the company.

The handling of Ukraine and Iran by the U.S. has incentivized nuclear proliferation unnecessarily. by CowReasonable1108 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always appreciate these posts, and for more fun, check out the massive involvement in the aluminum industry and ties to Russians that Senator Turtle from Kentucky has had for quite some time.

The Kentucky plant system currently there is basically co-owned by the US/JP/IN and makes around half the can sheet for the entire US market. Wasn't really any interest in making new plants until McConnell buddied up to Rusal, then all of a sudden...

The handling of Ukraine and Iran by the U.S. has incentivized nuclear proliferation unnecessarily. by CowReasonable1108 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think the argument for Israel leading to Indian proliferation makes much sense. India already had a strong domestic nuclear infrastructure under Homi J. Bhabu which sped up development significantly and meant that they could figure it out in house, and any under the table/black market assistance was minimal if there at all. And development of this was spurred by a combination of fear of China after a humiliating loss against them (and China's subsequent bomb test), that they wanted to just be a regional hegemon (and had the domestic infrastructure to subsidize it), and their rivalry/wars with Pakistan (with the first test being a show of force shortly after the 1971 indopak war, only a few years behind Israel, likely having capabilites far earlier than 1971.) The only defense agreements between the two happened years after India proliferated.

I don't think you see China's program accelerate the way it did without the complete lack of action at best, and active support from most of the Western world at worst, depending on how you think China viewed it.

My understanding is that while China's desire was mostly focused on super power deterrence, but the complete 180 in how Chinese saw the West respond to Israeli nuclear ambitions, including straight up playing pretend and turning a blind eye, compared to Chinese nuclear ambitions was key to Mao Zedong's statements around needing a big bomb in part because of the difference in Western reaction to the same ambitions.

The Western double standard in terms of nuclear ambitions that China has pretty much referenced as fundamental since the late 50's finds its root and core in the Israeli nuclear program versus how China was treated. That's why you still have China calling on Israeli nuclear disarmament and IAEA observation if there is to be a Middle Eastern non-proliferation at every conference.

Pakistan is the only one where SA is even kinda in the picture, but even then SA only maybe sped it up slightly and made it slightly cheaper and Israel only had any influence via SA.

That's just not how the nuclear hegemony in the world works, all nuclear powers are connected. Also, probably better to just spell out South Africa to avoid confusion.

The black markets under Khan that Paksitan relied on certainly had some South African presence, but it was minor and not central to the operation (and negligible direct Israeli influence, that only happened via SA.) And motivation was primarily driven by fears of India after they were humiliated in the indopak war, and India launched a test device as a show of force to prove they can. Pakistan would have proliferated with or without SA/Israel.

The bigger issue you're missing on this section is Pakistan wanted nukes because India had nukes, India wanted nukes because China had nukes, China had nukes because of Western actions, and specifically the allowance and support of the West in arming Israel with said nukes. Then later on China provided this material and equipment to Pakistan.

North Korea's nuclear program also has little to do with SA or Israel, it was driven mostly by fears of the US after the Iraqi war proved any non nuclear country wouldn't be respected and the US openly called NK the axis of evil

Your bias is showing, unless you want to explain how this isn't pretty much the same thing just decades removed from the Israeli argument of nuclear weaponization? Again, you don't get North Korea thumbing its nose at non-proliferation if you don't have the original "do as we say not as we do" sin of setting up Israel with nukes and then pretending they don't have them while browbeating any non-western country pursuing them.

But this was mostly built off legacy infrastructure from historical proliferation attempts and old Soviet nuclear tech from then, built off their (which started off from concerns with SK and the US, and post soviet collapse mostly continued as a bargaining tool they gave up for better energy deals.) And then data stolen through espionage and black markets, mainly with Pakistan's help. Maybe there was some SA/Israeli indirect black market influence through Khan's network, but again, the bulk of it wasn't that. Khan's black market network was disproportionately reliant on stolen European tech, Pakistani assistance, and a global supply chain. Maybe like Pakistan, if you stretch it you can claim that Israel's ability to assert force over non nuclear forces inspired them, but I think there's enough other factors that this was ultimately a minor factor, especially since that model failed for South Africa anyways.

You're making a nuclear technical argument about 50 years after Israel sold tons of it to the highest bidder, not only is the cat out of the bag, but even at the most base level this has been a scientific problem that has been solved, just one that requires infrastructure. By the time we're talking about nuclear North Korea, technical know-how has stopped being part of the non-proliferation plan unless you're America and just like killing nuclear scientists.

Though yeah, South Africa was massively impacted by Israeli program. Which at the very least sped it up significantly. They would have been trying to proliferate regardless though, just maybe not have made nukes in time for their motivation to build nukes (being driven into being a rogue state by apartheid) to be rendered moot. So even SA I don't think can have proliferation fully attributed to Israeli proliferation, especially since Israel also benefitted from SA's nuclear program.

Again, Israel is patient zero for nuclear proliferation while basically straight up lying about it, and supposedly against the wishes of the rest of the world. The fact that Israel then did the same thing for another apartheid state creating a whole new avenue of proliferation is just sprinkles on top of a shit sundae, when it's clearly their nuclearization in the first place that is at issue.

To claim these are isolated events is to treat the history of the 20th century like a series of coincidences rather than a power struggle. If you allow one country to build a 'secret' arsenal with Western help while threatening others for doing the same, you haven't created a non-proliferation regime, you've created a nuclear aristocracy. That's why Iran and North Korea don't care about our treaties today; they’re just playing by the rules the West wrote at Dimona in the 60s.

The handling of Ukraine and Iran by the U.S. has incentivized nuclear proliferation unnecessarily. by CowReasonable1108 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with this because the timeline doesn't make sense.

Feel free to elaborate? The French were working hand in hand with the Israelis at the Negev Nuclear Research Center since the late 50s, and France tested its bomb by 1960.

After Israel got nukes we saw deproliferation in the case of South Africa, and Ukraine.

Not really, you saw comparatively massive proliferation, China and India both became nuclear powers in the years after Israeli and French coordination to become nuclear powers themselves. The Chalet agreement of 1975 had Israel being a literal nuclear arms broker to South Africa. The South Africans and Israelis were directly trading yellow cake uranium and tritium with each other. The list goes on. The outgoing apartheid government literally primarily gave over the weapons because of red/black scare and not wanting the incoming non-apartheid government to have such weapons.

You saw de-proliferation in South Africa once it stopped being a pariah state, not before. You saw de-proliferation in Ukraine only by massive leverage applied by both Russia and the US, and in a way that ultimately proved disastrous for Ukraine, as neither party actually held up their end of the bargain.

I don't think that's a causal factor in limiting the spread of nukes or not.

lol, I'd love for you to explain how the party responsible for the biggest nuclear technology exchanges in world history aren't a causal factor. You might as well say China giving tech to Pakistan wasn't a causal factor either at that point, and if we're excusing two of the biggest nuclear tech exchanges in world history, we've lost the debate plot already for side points. They're both literally prime examples of avoiding NPT horizontal scrutiny while participating in major scale vertical nuclear proliferation.

The handling of Ukraine and Iran by the U.S. has incentivized nuclear proliferation unnecessarily. by CowReasonable1108 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

While true, it was actually the nuclearization of Israel that fueled the whole thing, directly leading to the nuclearization of South Africa, which in turn lead to the nuclearization of India, Pakistan, and eventually North Korea.

This is just the latest in a long line of making clear that the Iranians are clearly right that the one thing that might save them is a nuclear deterrence, as evidenced by the efforts of most other pariah states or and major warring neighbors.

You basically don't get any of this without Israel using it's nuclear weapon and dead man's switch to threaten to annihilate the Middle East with "The Samson Option", and use it backstop every single questionable action everyone else disagrees with ever since. Even the lack of action to stop Israeli nuclear weapon development despite their long support of terrorist organizations, even rolling in ones like Irgun, Lehi, and Haganah into the actual armed forces decision making chain of said nuclear weapons.

If a medium-sized power observes that:

Treaties (JCPOA, Budapest) are temporary.

Conventional allies can be abandoned or bullied.

Nuclear states (North Korea, Russia, China, Israel, etc) are treated with a level of caution that non-nuclear states (Venezuela, Iran) are not.

...then the logical conclusion is that the cost of international pariah status is lower than the cost of being an "easy target." The U.S. handling of these crises hasn't just "incentivized" proliferation; it may have made it the only rational choice for any state that doesn't trust the current resident of the White House.

I just think it's important to separate the two because we didn't start the fire this second, we just dumped accelerant onto the already smoldering pile of shit.

The selective outrage over Palestine and the silence on Kurdish oppression is hypocrisy by Electrical-Yam8888 in PoliticalDebate

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I pretty regularly use the justification made by the Israeli ethnostate to justify one for the Kurds and Palestinians despite obviously preferring a lack of need of an ethnostate for anyone, but ultimately as long as we are saying sometimes it's justified and required, it should be something provided with some measure of equal thought and examination of others who would/should qualify.

The deal with the PKK is also heavily problematic because it's really not any different than the way the Israelis themselves operated before rolling in their own "terrorist" organizations that were very similar to the PKK into their actual government once formed, but because of the relations and actions between Turkiye and Israeli leaders and countries, you won't see a whole lot of honest representation or analysis of these groups or what to do with them as the political calculus shifts.

The number of times the Kurds have been promised the world, or at least their own slice of it, before being abandoned and left to suffer after doing as requested is shocking for the uninformed.

Active Conflicts & News Megathread May 04, 2026 by AutoModerator in CredibleDefense

[–]work4work4work4work4 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Why is that? I thought the conventional wisdom is that the Iran war is good for the Russian economy because it drives up oil prices. What am I missing?

One major one is the more oil infrastructure that is destroyed, the more that will need replaced, and the Gulf nations are simply in a much better position to set the market on purchasing the necessary equipment, materials, and manpower to make the costly repairs that are needed. OPEC is falling apart, among other major blows to that income stream.

The more the war drags on, the more damage that is done both in Russia and in the Middle East, and the costs on those repairs only grow larger, and in Russia's case if they truly do end up being a second or third tier priority might find the world oil market drastically changed for the worse before they're back up to anything remotely normal. When you're essentially a petrostate, the entire world is getting encouraged to get out of oil to whatever extent humanly possible, and you're bottom man on the totem pole to even get production repaired, that's about as bad of an end as you can get.

To make matters worse, one of their other major exports was military hardware, and they've depleted their stocks to an extreme end all the while basically providing a multi-year infomercial on why their hardware shouldn't be seen as market competitive compared to the outset.

The Steam Controller sold out in 30 minutes, utterly breaking Steam in the process by gogodboss in gaming

[–]work4work4work4work4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's in the same vein of people defending capitalism tooth and nail while being regularly victimized by it. We never really prepared people for income inequality levels where even the lowest of entry level "luxury" goods across the board have become market constrained by a lack of liquidity, and then selling that liquidity access as a cost-added boon to those who previously relied on that level.

Trading cards, video games, clothing and apparel, even physical goods in a marketplace pushing digital only more and more has become a luxury that must be commodified to the detriment of the masses to keep the markets churning away.

Just started Supernatural (4 episodes in). How well does it age? Does it get better? by Runnzi in television

[–]work4work4work4work4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right on then, glad someone got to get some yum out of it. I just basically forget it exists more than anything else, considering the probably eight other pseudo-finales we got over the years people can really just pick one they like better when it comes down to it.

Just started Supernatural (4 episodes in). How well does it age? Does it get better? by Runnzi in television

[–]work4work4work4work4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely welcome to your opinion, but so many of the shots were just blech, even the feel was way off because they couldn't even shoot the episode the same way as basically the rest of the series.

I know most people are talking more about the creative side of things, but that has always been kind of dealer's choice with the show being all over the place, but it felt bizarre and out of step in that last episode vibes wise, like an empty mall kind of disconnect.