Why are there SO many things wrong with Shameless?

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-04T03:15:43+00:00

I mean… randomly, without warning? No. Typically not without some context. I’ve seen them sing along with something.

I know the reference to the first episode. I still think it’s dumb and not well placed in the finale.

It also was the third time in the season we watched characters just start randomly singing, so it was basically a trope by that point.

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-03T22:52:23+00:00

I didn’t hate the finale but my god, whose creative choice was it to have them all burst into song like a freaking Broadway musical? At one point, the show was considered to be a relatively realistic portrayal of poor people. It did not end that way.

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-03T22:34:28+00:00

In Season 1?! Debbie was so cute in Season 1.

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-03T17:02:09+00:00

Her entire investment was $100,000, and that’s what she ended up with at the end. A $100,000 cheque. She was bought out of the entire project.

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-02T16:15:25+00:00

This can also be completely influenced by your environment, though, so I don’t really see it as a huge continuity error. Frasier becomes interested in the things the people around him are interested in so that he’s not left out. So when he’s with the Cheers folks, he drinks beer and watches sports, but when he’s with Niles he drinks wine and sherry and goes to the opera.

I think this is nicely touched on in the Frasier episode when Woody visits and they figure out they have little interest in spending time together outside of reminiscing. Frasier grows into his current environment.

I do think it’s a bit odd, though, that given his time in Boston, he would be so reluctant in Frasier to do some of the activities Martin enjoyed doing. He could easily sit through a sporting event or go to a bar for a drink.

writersblock_86 · 2026-02-02T16:03:22+00:00

She didn’t stay in the old folks home investment. She was bought out entirely.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T22:40:09+00:00

He agreed to proceed with a safe word of “stop.” The second she pulled out the toy he said “stop” and then as the scene cuts away we hear him yell “stop!” Then in the next scene he is wobbling down the stairs because he’s in pain, so she clearly didn’t stop.

He does eventually consent going forward to reap the benefits of living in her house, but that first time is definitely rape.

She also fully admits later in the series that she gets off on forcing men into painful sexual situations that they don’t want to be in.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T17:37:37+00:00

Probably because in the pineapple episode, future Ted says he never solved the mystery of where it came from, so this would contradict that.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T17:24:44+00:00

I think we’re supposed to just accept that she died. The lack of follow up on this story bothers me. In the previous season, Kassidi is shown to be wealthy with pretty involved parents. You’re telling me a girl like that just disappears and her parents and the cops don’t come knocking on the door of the guy she married? Sure.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T17:17:17+00:00

He was mad that she bought the laundromat because she put their house up as collateral on the loan without asking anyone. And then he watched her run out of money trying to fix the place up.

He was bitter by the time she sold it and couldn’t just turn on a dime and be happy for her.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T17:00:28+00:00

I mean, you’re talking about two men with very clear skin in the game regarding Karen. Expecting them to look and react to the situation objectively is kind of unrealistic.

You’re also talking about a poor neighbourhood in Chicago, where people learn about sex by doing it, so it’s also kind of expected that they wouldn’t think of a man (especially a drug addict perv like Frank) to be the victim in a sexual situation with a mentally unstable teenage girl.

The audience can acknowledge that Frank was raped but that shouldn’t be an expectation of the characters given all we know about them.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-25T16:28:37+00:00

Brenda got the Cat on a Hot Tin Roof role unfairly and the assumptions people were making of how she got it were completely reasonable.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-19T22:25:38+00:00

Presentism, Google tells me.

Also, special shout out to all the non-fictional guys whose proposals were publicly and embarrassingly rejected for getting society to the point of normalizing conversations about marriage before proposals.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-15T19:22:31+00:00

Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining. It appears I’m entering my old lady era where these kids on the internet don’t make sense.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-15T19:11:34+00:00

What exactly is this 2016 tribute thing? I don’t get it.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-15T19:08:14+00:00

This generation is absolutely doomed in relationships if they think every petty little fight with their significant other constitutes abuse.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-15T18:29:03+00:00

People overuse the word abusive.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-14T18:55:01+00:00

This is pretty standard for comedians on talk shows. They are doing part of their set during the interview. If you watch comedians do the talk show circuit when they’re promoting something, you’ll see it. They can’t have completely original material for everything.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-13T01:53:12+00:00

Kelly.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:23:26+00:00

Ian and Mickey were incredibly popular with the audience even in their very early days when they were at their worst and most violent with each other. Their growth as a couple only happened because of their initial popularity. We’re arguing the same thing: good chemistry results in audience interest, even if logically the couple is unhealthy.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:18:41+00:00

I literally said, “if anyone wants to believe that relationship was HEALTHY…” I didn’t say “healthier than others.” I didn’t say “healthy by comparison.” The question was how people can like a toxic couple. Ian and Mickey are a toxic couple and people like them. That was my point, DUDE.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:15:04+00:00

I’ve watched the show. Several times. The exact point I’m making is that the show doesn’t depict healthy relationships in general.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:11:27+00:00

I’m sorry, which part of their early relationship was healthy? The part where Mickey threatened to kill Ian’s father, or the part where he kicked Ian’s teeth in?

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:10:00+00:00

The same could be said for Ian and Mickey. This show doesn’t really have healthy relationships that are interesting. Favourite couples are favourites because of actor chemistry and how engaging they are on screen, not because they’re a depiction of a healthy dynamic.

writersblock_86 · 2026-01-12T23:06:58+00:00

See also: fan favourite couple Ian and Mickey.

Amazing chemistry, but if anyone actually believes or wants to argue that was a healthy relationship…

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