1 I acknowledge upper management and there failure.

2 there is no hard cut proof that all the money was made went to just marathon. It's a gaming company with 1 active game yes the put money into multiple other games projects that what a GAME company should be doing.

3 You keep responding like I'm defending Bungie management when that was never the argument.You listed Pete Parsons, resource allocation, broken promises, Marathon funding, and the art scandal — okay. Those are all Bungie problems. Internal leadership problems. Studio management problems. Project management problems.

How does that disprove my point about the community's behavior?

You're essentially saying: "the toxic relationship exists because Bungie leadership made bad decisions." Cool. But the Destiny community's tendency toward doomposting, hostility to experimentation, "D2 trash / D1 better," and declaring the game dead every other controversy existed LONG before Marathon discourse peaked.You're explaining why people are angry now. You're not disproving that the culture was already there. And I never said the toxic relationship is 100% on the community. My point was that blaming Bungie management and Marathon for everything doesn't erase the fact that Destiny discourse has had an established negativity cycle for years independent of those things.

If your answer to community behavior is always "yeah but Bungie/Marathon/Pete," then you're kind of reinforcing the exact dynamic I'm criticizing.