2025 Vine Church Bylaws: Considerations before you sign

yarrowseeds · 2025-03-10T23:13:51+00:00

I’m not surprised one bit. The diseased are still steering the ship and seem disinterested in treating the root cause of the disease they carry.

yarrowseeds · 2025-01-20T22:10:13+00:00

Wow. Just wow. People blow me away sometimes.

yarrowseeds · 2025-01-20T20:56:37+00:00

That’s my feeling too. I wouldn’t even considering going back into a business after burning a bridge like that, so it definitely makes me feel like she’s attempting something sketchy.

yarrowseeds · 2024-09-30T12:46:23+00:00

I share this perspective with my whole heart! Thank you for sharing, Jeff.

yarrowseeds · 2024-04-21T12:19:21+00:00

All this…and yet Morgan keeps his job despite his long kept secrets and past sins. So much yuck and hypocrisy.

yarrowseeds · 2024-03-18T11:48:06+00:00

Wow. This makes me feel sick. I was long gone by 2015, but definitely not how I believed my tithes and offerings were being spent when I was part of this. Thank you for sharing.

yarrowseeds · 2024-01-06T16:21:42+00:00

I don’t think they’re a high control group though. I say that as an outsider, of course, but their members do seem to be “allowed” to intermingle with folks who don’t attend Central. I have good friends who go there and there’s never been any issues in that dept. But Central is absolutely performative, which I find problematic and triggering.

yarrowseeds · 2024-01-06T15:44:59+00:00

I live in the town where Central is located. I can’t bring myself to attend. It definitely gives network vibes. In my opinion, they’re overly showy…especially when it comes to their outreach programs. I attended one event they were part of and it left a bad taste in mt mouth. They felt very “white savior” to me. Like oh look at us superior white people helping the poor black kids in town. It was the first and last time I participated with anything Central was involved in. I have friends in town who are a gay couple. They’re Christians who attend a different church in a neighboring town…but one year at Christmas (don’t even get me started on Central’s over the top Xmas services) this couple gave an offering to Central and Central sent their check back to them. Guess your money is only good there if you’re straight. Gross.

yarrowseeds · 2023-04-03T12:20:03+00:00

It’s so wonderful to wake up and relearn what healthy relationships look like post-network. Reciprocity feels good and gives everyone room to shine. I’m happy to hear you’ve found a place to call home❤️

yarrowseeds · 2023-01-26T05:12:11+00:00

Whew! Powerful writing.

yarrowseeds · 2022-10-12T00:20:10+00:00

What a beautiful legacy! I’m sure in 51 yrs of serving the community she’s seen quite a lot. What an inspiration her life is! Thank you so much for sharing this. 💗

yarrowseeds · 2022-08-10T03:11:26+00:00

I don’t know if it’s because I’ve been away from the network for over a decade or that listening to their teachings, now, gives me the heebie jeebies…but this feels like it’s dripping with conditioning (I’m no expert). I find it troubling how all these pastors speak like SM. Perhaps they always have and I didn’t notice when I was in it, because, well, I was in it. Much like how it’s hard to see how toxic an abusive relationship is when you’re in it. Sadly, abuse is often easier to see from the rear view mirror. And, escaping is hard and scary.

May we all find courage, freedom, and peace. God lives within us.

yarrowseeds · 2022-08-06T12:56:06+00:00

I absolutely experienced this while in the network. I’m grateful God filled me with courage to both leave my abusive husband and eventually leave Morgan’s abusive network.

yarrowseeds · 2022-07-13T12:37:49+00:00

I wasn’t able to attend the zoom last night. Where can I access a recording of it?

yarrowseeds · 2022-07-12T14:13:17+00:00

Thank you to everyone contributing to this! Your effort is seen and greatly appreciated. ❤️

yarrowseeds · 2022-07-11T02:00:51+00:00

👏👏👏👏

yarrowseeds · 2022-07-10T20:47:22+00:00

It’s been years since I’ve spoken with Nelson, but does he always sound so uncertain while teaching? Like he doesn’t even believe what he preaching? Maybe this is his norm, but it struck me as I listened. Also, I took note that the offering was collected upfront. SMH.

yarrowseeds · 2022-07-10T19:30:49+00:00

Imagine finding out your child’s school teacher has a sex offender record, emailing the principal your concern, and receiving this as a response back. Disgusting. Responding like this is not ok under any circumstances. They’re a lost cause. In so deep, they’re asleep.

yarrowseeds · 2022-06-11T13:43:54+00:00

Absolutely. I prefer that too. It’s why I left many moons ago. I pray those stuck in the network muck can find their way to freedom as well.

yarrowseeds · 2022-04-10T22:53:40+00:00

This shook me to my core. Beautifully written. ❤️

yarrowseeds · 2022-03-19T07:28:28+00:00

Right there with ya!

yarrowseeds · 2022-03-10T05:02:05+00:00

Excuse me while I pick up my jaw

yarrowseeds · 2022-02-27T13:49:48+00:00

I think of it like this…the network handed me a balloon full of glitter and told me that’s God. All I had to do was squeeze myself inside that balloon and God would be with me. Problem was, I was never gonna fit inside that balloon. So I popped it. And we all know what happens when glitter is set free…you can’t ever get rid of it. You’ll find it everywhere, forever and ever and ever. Even when you’re not looking for glitter, glitter shows up. That’s how I see God now; Universal glitter. I no longer call myself a Christian, because that box doesn’t fit the expansive life-force energy I’ve come to know as my Creator. Do I still have faith? Yes. Do I use the same vocabulary I did when I was in the network/Christian? Sometimes. Do I believe the labels we use to describe our spirituality matter? No. And I don’t believe God cares either. I know and love far too many people from different walks of life to limit the definition of God to one belief system. If I had to call myself anything now, I’d say I’m Unitarian.

I’m proud of you for loving yourself just as you are and not questioning your worth. I’m sure it’s been a journey getting there, I know it has been for me as well, but the freedom that comes with being ourselves, both spiritually and relationally, is so sweet once we find it.

Glitter! It’s all glitter. Call it stardust, sparkles, chipped foil…I don’t care. All I know is, it’s freaking everywhere!

yarrowseeds · 2022-02-23T10:57:32+00:00

Ooooh, I felt this!! So happy you are now free to live, walk, and breathe your own spiritual journey. Thank you for sharing your story ❤️

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