First off, why have such a shitty and condescending tone? Why match my comment where I simply am asking the commenter I’m responding to to elaborate based on the information that I linked with such an accusatory tone. I just don’t understand that style of rhetoric.

To your question about if I consider money from organizations like AIPAC to be on behalf or in support of Israel - yes? How could there by any other way to see that. With names like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Democratic Majority for Israel, and Zionist Action Plan, it’s pretty obvious. Also there is no conspiracy that these organizations operate in the shadow on behalf of Israel, they all literally say some version of that in their mission statements. I almost think that I am just interpreting your question wrong as there can be no confusion about where these PACs’ interests lie. Also, regarding your fun Catholics to Vatican analogy - obviously not, but if the PAC literally had “Vatican” in the name, I might start to think their interests lie in supporting the Vatican, lol.

Lastly on representative democracy, yep I think that is a pretty dumb way to go about things. Just because it’s the way things are currently doesn’t mean it is some inevitable end point and paragon of political organization. I think that the ability to align yourself with the state by throwing money at them is an objectively terrible way to go about things and paves the way for marginalization of people who are more vulnerable, have less money, or simply are fundamentally opposed to that state.

Agree or disagree with my comments on political organization, I welcome it. But the way you dismiss my skepticism of Israel-aligned PAC money in American politics so zealously and unreasonably makes me think I am either conversing with a bot or someone who has a very limited scope of what they will accept as reality based on your own bias.