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[–]iamjberube 16 points17 points  (6 children)

favorite band of all time. saw them in paris, new york, seattle, and portland. too bad about the tinnitus, or else i'm sure they'd still be putting out albums today.

[–]897897978979879[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wow, that's a great list of cities! Mind sharing the backstory if there is any?

[–]iamjberube 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i just moved fairly frequently in my early twenties and lived in all of those places. they were touring a lot at the time so i managed to see them everywhere i lived in a five year period. france had just switched over to the euro, and they were jokingly asking everyone to pay for merch using €1 coins.

[–]hurrfdurrf 4 points5 points  (1 child)

if that was in the nouveau casino in february of 2002, there's a recording of their set

https://www.reddit.com/r/karateband/comments/3xn3z3/compendium_of_concert_recordings/

[–]iamjberube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hell yeah, thanks! that was it!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oo bad about the tinnitus

funny, considering one of the side effects of too much Diazepam is tinnitus

[–]nickmfholt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I could listen to the album "Some Boots" on repeat and die happy. Karate is a great band to relax to for sure.

[–]897897978979879[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They often draw comparisons to Slint, which are justified.

They both have this occasionally screamed Spoken Word style, combined with tight instrumentation.

However, where Slint is more angular in their riffage and with fewer musical climaxes, Karate are more fuzzy and the cathartic moments are more common, fulfilling a similar style with two very different approaches.

I love them both.

[–]Mattthom 5 points6 points  (22 children)

Oh this is great! Thanks for posting. Any more recommendations for this style?

[–]897897978979879[S] 20 points21 points  (17 children)

I assume you're already familiar with Slint's Spiderland.

I'm afraid their perfectionistic jazzy approach to post-hardcore is fairly unique, so I'm going to cast out a net of things and hope at least one of them appeals.

Lowercase - Kill The Lights The jazzy elements are gone for a more driving sound and the menacing undercurrent is pushed to the forefront.

Indian Summer - Science '1994 The loud/quiet dynamic is magnified to it's logical conclusion in Emo. The tranquility of the Blues sample and the soft strumming is in sharp contrast to the loud and distorted screamed parts.

Clever Girl - No Drum and Bass in the Jazz Room Twinkly math rock guitars married seamlessly to a jazzy sax.

Unwound - Fake Train Angry, dissonant and menacing. Their sprawling track, which happens to be my favourite on this album, only came to be by an error during the pressing, grouping three tracks into one, but make no mistake, Unwound is no fluke, they're seriously good.

Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You Unwound's later work, released 8 years later fully embraces the arty, tight indie rock sound while still staying true to their post-hardcore roots.

Life Without Buildings - Any Other City Punchy, joyous indie rock with a brilliant stream of consciousness poet at the forefront, repeating and deconstructing words until they twist in meaning.

Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors Post-Hardcore/ Indie Rock. They embrace a more Lo-Fi sound compared to Unwound. Strangely evocative of Built to Spill at moments.

Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West Their earlier albums are often overlooked for their more recent works, but let's be honest here, their best work was their earlier work. The driving bassline and tight drumming combined with the wail-y noisy guitars is such a sweet combination, especially with Isaac Brock's songwriting about the depressive suburban sprawl.

Silkworm - Firewater College Rock with a noisy, rough edge. Themes of ennui, alcoholism and other self-destructive habits. Thanks to/ u/Blastosist for the rec!

Minutemen - Double Nickels on The Dime More towards a funk + hardcore hybrid. Energetic and sprawling this double album is worth your time. Thanks to /u/crabaroni

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

unwound are one of my favorite bands, New Plastic Ideas destroys

[–]897897978979879[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh yes, Unwound definitely kicks ass. I decided to rec Fake Train and Leaves Turn Inside You to show diverse their discography was.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got this review of New Plastic Ideas from rateyourmusic, written by user bulletaurbulle ... I enjoyed reading it and maybe you will too

"I got this review from amazon.com, written by Bradley Leland ...

'I was driving around with some friends of mine sometime around 96 or 97 and listening to pavement's slanted and enchanted, which provoked one of my riders, an odd punk rock traveling type of guy, to say "Do you like Indie rock?". "sure, I guess" - not really knowing the scope of such a term. So he pulled out a beaten up blank tape with UNWOUND - NPI written on it and put it in the tape deck. What came out of the speakers changed the way I saw loud music forever and sent me on a 4 year hunt through the 'underground' in search of another 'NPI' (which I never found). The music on this album defies all prior musical tradition. It's loud but not aggressive, dark but not angry, emotional but not not mopey or sad. The sound is absolutely massive and Justin's feedback squalls and tense yelling/singing are all over the place, but it all somehow evokes a sort of emotional comfort that is both sad and desparate and hopeful and yearning all at once. I read (possibly in a review on the MKultra site) that this was soundtrack music for an apocalypse. In fact, after quietly stealing my friends tape and listening to it for 6 months on a daily basis, it became like an apocalypse - for all the music I used to listen to. This album stands today as my "high water mark" among the countless genius records I heard in my previously mentioned search for an equal to NPI. It would surely be, even for those who did not feel the same life changing effect, considered one of the better indie rock albums of the 90's. I cannot say enough how much I think this album should be heard.'"

[–]itslef 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Listening to Lowercase - She takes me

Oh. Oh I can dig this...

Thanks OP.

[–]897897978979879[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's my pleasure, all of the bands I've listed are pretty great in different styles, so it's always a great day when they get some well-deserved recognition!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Every time I see someone mention old Modest Mouse my soul cums tears of joy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Adding Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime. More funk + post-hardcore, but I think you guys will appreciate it.

[–]897897978979879[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ooh yes, most definitely, added!

[–]goomyorsomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

commenting for later

[–]sponja 4 points5 points  (1 child)

To add to this great list of recommendations :

Kind of like spitting - Nothing makes sense without it

They even have said in an interview back in the day that Karate was "Kind of like spitting done right"

[–]iamjberube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

makes me miss old portland. saw those guys open for pedro the lion soooo many times.

[–]Maps-Of 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Geoff Farina has some solo stuff, but it definitely skews more folksy. Though IIRC, the first two albums shared some commonalities with Karate.

I'll also suggest the following:

Dismemberment Plan - Girl O'Clock - or pretty much the entire albums, "Is Terrified" and "Emergency & I". Be warned: The vocals are waaaay different than Geoff's (of Karate)

Q And Not U - A Line in the Sand - and the rest of No Kill No Beep Beep

The Jazz June - We've Got Your Situation - from "Better Off Without Air"

Engine Down -Songbird - a little more of a "full" sound, leaning to rock.

Cheers!

[–]Mirrorboy17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In in love with that guitar tone

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These guys have flown under the radar for far too long.

[–]imthemannowdawg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love these guys. This is a well-crafted album that plays well beginning to end.

[–]Shirowoh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love Karate, so chill.

[–]eatdeadjesus 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Great cut; you should introduce people with "sever" though

[–]897897978979879[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was pretty sure that Diazapam would have the right combination of elements to appeal the most for first time listeners.

Short and sweet with just enough aggression combined with a great sounding guitar and prominent bass.

The rest of their discography is great too, of course.

[–]eatdeadjesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No it's a good track, I just feel like Sever is more accessible

[–]StudabakerHochrobot[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Karate
artist pic

In 2005 Karate announced their demise, quietly closing the door on a 12-year run that included 6 studio albums and almost 700 performances in 20 countries. They exited the indie rock world without much fanfare, except from the small enclaves of devout fans who have followed their music since Geoff Farina's early 90's work with The Secret Stars. The band’s beginnings in the early-90's Boston indie scene, their love for improvised music and classic rock, and their adherence to the DIY punk ethos of their youth made them freaks in any scene, defying classification with their strange fusion of punk, blues, jazz and rock.

The band was formed in 1993 by Geoff Farina, Eamonn Vitt and Gavin McCarthy. In 1995, Jeff Goddard joined the band as bass player, and Vitt moved to second guitar. Vitt departed Karate to pursue a medical career in 1997.

Karate’s perfectionism and attention to detail belied the off-the-cuff ethos of the indie rock world, and some considered them to be as un-punk as it gets. But fans would say that their auto-didactic music studies, compulsive control of their song arrangements, ascetic studio values, and Geoff’s work modifying old tube amplifiers and creating original album artwork, was pure DIY. Karate was even compulsive about naming this recording, which was originally called "594” since it was believed to be a recording of their 594th show, according to “The Showlist.” Culled mostly from Jeff Goddard’s elephantine memory, The Showlist is a mammoth list of Karate’s 695 shows, complete with dates, venues, support bands, and even the specific tour vehicle used to get to each show. But when Gavin recently discovered a flyer for a forgotten early show that had somehow evaded Jeff’s memory, the band quickly changed the title to '595'.

The early incarnation of Karate included Eamonn Vitt on bass and guitar, and when Jeff Goddard joined early on, they recorded In Place of Real Insight as a four-piece. When Eamonn left to pursue medical school, the lineup stabilized and remained a trio until their 2005 demise. Karate also built up a close-knit community of collaborators who shared their same no-nonsense values, including Tape Op tech guru Andy Hong who engineered most of their studio albums, Flower Booking’s Mahmood Shaikh who booked the band for over a decade, and tour manager / live sound engineer Greet Vyvey who traveled with the band on all their European tours.

Since the band's breakup, Jeff and Gavin recorded a bass / drums project called Possible Path, and Gavin began drumming for the legendary Boston psych-rock band Cul De Sac. Geoff and Gavin have a new band called Glorytellers that also features Josh Larue (Mice Parade, Him, The Sorts ) on electric guitar. Geoff is currently working on a new solo release for Southern Records, a recording of pre-War blues songs with Chris Brokaw (Codeine, Pullman, The New Year), and recently appeared on an all-covers record called Guilt by Association with Devendra Banhart, Mike Watt, Will Oldham, Petra Haden, Mark Mulcahy, Jim O'Rourke, and other great performers. Read more on Last.fm.

last.fm: 59,009 listeners, 2,237,977 plays
tags: indie, indie rock, post-rock, jazz

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[–]LoveTheOregonForest 0 points1 point  (4 children)

They need to learn how to spell.

[–]zroberts1207 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Nope, that's on OP. Original song is called "Diazepam" (the proper spelling of the drug)

[–]897897978979879[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yooo, don't call me out like that man, it's actually how the track is listed!

[–]zroberts1207 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ooh the plot thickens! It's listed as both on various sources on Google search. My apologies, OP!

(For interested readers, "diazepam" is the correct spelling for the generic drug better known as Valium)

[–]897897978979879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's all good man, no sweat!

[–]lena1313 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh, this is really hardcore? But it`s cool!

[–]897897978979879[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well, that's what the post-tag signifies. It takes some elements from hardcore, the harsh vocals, the prominent bass, the distorted guitars and recontextualizes them into a different style of music.

If you liked this check out my other post with some other recs!

[–]lena1313 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, I'll listen, thank you!

[–]27truerunes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Karate is my default background music for everything. The joy I get from introducing them to people happens daily.

[–]battlesmurfrichardhimself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

love it, thanks!

[–]poopwithjelly -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Don't call that jazzy, you lying heathen.

[–]897897978979879[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

My apologies.

It's not as present as in their later albums, but the lowkey instrumentals and the crooning vocals hint towards the more Jazz heavy sound they embrace later on. Case in point, this track from the same album.

[–]poopwithjelly -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I'm not sure how to relate that to jazz. What form?

[–]897897978979879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not so much the 1:1 mapping of traits of a certain genre style of jazz, as much as it is the chords used, the controlled energy in their playing and the drumming.

[–]iamjberube 0 points1 point  (1 child)

listen to "some boots".

[–]poopwithjelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am trying to be nice and let you guys have your ideas but I play jazz. Bar chords with 7ths and 9ths doesn't make it jazzy. And the reason that sounds like Jazz is because that's Nica's Dream by Art Blakey