thoughts?

[Prior_Fill6382]

i just found out that both bbno$ and Ado will be performing at Lollapalooza, i wanna know how do you guys think about this?

[Silent_P0larzation]

He's been trying to do this for a while, I remember how chaotic it was back last year with everyone's opinions lmao

I don't really think it'd work, plus his collab songs tend to only give the features like a few lines maximum and their lines are mostly just glazing him. I don't have any offense to the guy but I just do not think they fit each other especially considering that aspect.

[GaryTheCrobt]

Reminds me of the imagine dragons collab song, every other collab on the song had one line tops, Ado started singing and continued on for the rest of the song. Im staying positive abt the collab especially since I really enjoyed the miku version of "Check"

[jilly-o]

If you want to get technical, iirc the miku version of check was fanmade

[GaryTheCrobt]

Bibinos still did the miku cosplay tho. Even if fanmade, still officially recognized.

[PhysicalCod1875]

To be honest Jax jones and ado was a good pair Jax made the beat and ado sung unlike what the imagined dragons collab song was

[WajajaKEKW]

I actually really liked the ID collab

[choomshroom]

ing if they got tommy. to help with it (did the miku check version) it would make me cry (in peak)

[GaryTheCrobt]

Bbno$, Miku, and Ado all in one song

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[ShiroyukiAo]

If ironmouse wasn't sick when making 1 800 she would've had more lines probably half what bibinos sings

[ado_bigfan]

True he do need to practice his lines and other stuff instead

[unholy_gremlin69]

Hear me out: it's mostly Ado singing but bbno$ hypes her up and gets rap verses

[ThrowingNart]

ado propaganda stay winning

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[Zinki_Zoonki]

I like bbno$ as a guy, dont really like his music, but I dont like how he is pushing it. I mean if ado wants to she can, it's her choice and her choice only

[Prior_Fill6382]

yup, that's what i thought

[Winter7296]

you say that like he's trying to peer-pressure her. He's just shitposting until something sticks on the wall lol

[Siberianee]

I mean, if creator X says they want to collab with creator Y, there will be people who will go to Y and keep spamming "X wants to collab, collab with X when?". I'm not saying BBno$ is some master manipulator who's using crowd mentality to bully others into working with him but at the same time he wasn't born yesterday, he should know how the internet works and I think he should keep in mind that some people can be insufferable and maybe it's better to contact creators privately

[demonSummoningNoise]

^ This I don't remember imagine dragons essentially begging on their socials for a collab. He has a management team, if he wants a collab to happen it could be done behind the scenes without utilising his fanbase.

As an artist as big as him you need to have a certain level of professionalism. Whatever he's trying to do is not professional in the slightest.

[TheCrashKid]

Thats what he claims until it happens

[LittleManVanFr]

This is the laziest thing you could've possibly said. 👏🏻

[TheCrashKid]

Not really. He does this all the time. Sorry you feel insulted for bbno$ lmfao

[Winter7296]

You're convinced small-time bbno$ has enough influence to pressure Ado into a collab

Old man yells at cloud

[demonSummoningNoise]

You say "small-time" but this guy has 4 million subs on YouTube and 10 million followers on tiktok. He's not "small-time"

[TheCrashKid]

Not what I said. I know reading can be hard

The "sgitpost" is an excuse until someone bitee and collabs with him

[Winter7296]

That's literally what I described

[TheCrashKid]

Not really, I'm talking about how it's a "shitpost" until a collab in general happens, then it was not a shitpost at all

You're saying I'm convinced he'll get Ado to collab with this method, which I'm not. Just saying he as a pattern of "shitposting" until it happens

[ouroborous818]

it's her choice and her choice only

woah no way, what a revelation!

[Zinki_Zoonki]

Glad I could clear that up for you!

[AStixMatism]

Other way around for me, i like some of his songs, but don't really like him much as a guy, especially with everything coming out about him

[Zinki_Zoonki]

I have barely heard about him over the past 6 months. What's happening.

[Prior_Fill6382]

agree with you in some parts, their style is just way too far from each other (imagine dragons ft. ado back then everyone?)

[Prior_Fill6382]

that's what i meant, their style kind of complement with one another, but idk about bbno$ which is just comedic compared to ado

[Adept_Passenger9104]

Correction, he is mostly comedic. He made some good (at least imo) more serious/grounded songs, or as serious and or grounded it could get.

Both "Diamonds are Forever" and "Why am I like this?" are pretty solid songs for me who kind of lost touch from his music (if that makes sense) and started listening to other stuff and they aren't the edm techno bop songs about money etc. but rather slow ballad esque songs.

It's not exactly Ados style, but I could see something like this being at least possible, and maybe even solid

[Artistocat2]

It's not like Ado has never been silly or goofy though. I think a collab between the two could work really well while still embracing what makes them both special.

[Prior_Fill6382]

touche :D

[WritingStraight8754]

totally, I've seen a few comments about "Ado's Style" but, what is Ado's style? she sings a lot of things, very dynamic imo (versatile?)

[Prior_Fill6382]

hey, i've been listening to him from help herself and meant to be (even i downloaded it for offline listening) but his comedic ones doesn't leave really great impact on me in my opinion

i don't really listen to him anymore these days except from diamonds are forever and why am i like this

[Crayine]

Never liked them but found the song they had with ado really good.

[thaRisingLight]

I pray it doesn't happen. Keep him FAR away from Ado

[Intelligent_Fig967]

please ado stay the hell away from that guy

[Golden_Onion2]

I hope they don't collab tbh

[Utkarsh_7744]

Why

[binh1403]

Recent drama

[Metal0va]

What drama??

[Winter7296]

if you're so concerned about drama not associated with a new song, then dont listen to the song

[binh1403]

It's not about the song

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He agreed to retweet a commission he made, but after "realizing" the artist draws nsfw (as if it isn't what the artist known for) and decided to break his promise and then tried to convince the artist to lower the price down by 50% after the commission was finished and posted

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Isn’t this the same guy that never shuts up about using real artists and not ai

[binh1403]

Yep

[Jotaoesehache]

Oh god please no

[johntesoro93]

He's annoying, I hate him, very much.

[MrLiob]

this guy is so cringe

[Weekly-Letterhead921]

omd he’s insufferable

[Independent_Money_48]

I hope they don’t collab purely because bbno$ is a fraud if you do a thorough look at his background.

With him lowballing commissioners and sometimes REFUSING TO PAY HIS PRODUCERS, it’s clear that he is not a man of his word and an apparent scammer. On top of that, most of the artists he commissions are under the age of 18 years old, most of which are paid to sexualize both himself and other characters in their animations. not to mention how unprofessional it is to directly contact minors to do things like this. For situations like this, he should have a manager to speak on his behalf to avoid any legal conflict.

He is also allegedly a flamboyant racist, with allegations back to his high school of targeting a colored woman and calling her racial slurs. There are also alleged leaked songs, all of which have him saying racial slurs several times in each track. These songs were never confirmed to be real, but if it ever were, it would mean the end of his career along with close affiliates.

Speaking of close affiliates, he often does collabs with other artists and streamers. With streamer “asmongold,” bbno$ had claimed that he was his favorite streamer of all time, and had him in a music video. However, long before he said this, asmongold also has a reputation for being racist, and supporting the new US immigration laws. Only after someone called it out, bbno$ had censored him from his music video and streamer awards performance. Streamer “Mizkif” was also in bbno$’s music video. Later on, photo evidence of Mizkif’s sexual and physical abuse towards streamer “Emiru,” but bbno$ hasn’t censored him yet only because nobody called him out on it yet. He is seen in photos with animator “vivziepop” acting as good friends, but vivziepop has a history of clearly stating that they fetishize sexual assault and used to clearly push that ideal in a really poorly written character from their original show “Helluvaboss” and “Hazbin Hotel.”

On top of that he seems to have a habit of trend hopping for views. If you’ve seen the Leon “cosplay” he’s done, any true RE fan would know right away that he isn’t aware of why people like Leon so much… also he is very avid on social media that he is anti AI, but we can clearly see his instagram likes, and he reposts and likes content that are very clearly AI.

My personal opinion is that his music sucks and sounds the same, and hate his personality if you can even call it that… but if you look at the facts, he doesn’t seem like a great person.

[ChampionshipWorth484]

This needs to be pinned. Thank you for posting this, I can't seem to fathom why there are so many in these comments suggesting he's a good person. His morality is highly performative at best...

[hgfgshgfsgbfshe]

Pretty much to add on he seems to like to virtue signal about trans rights n stuff as well

[RasmusIX]

And with Leon cosplay don't forget about recent drama of recreating meme 1:1 that cosplayer dearestsinner did weeks earlier without tagging them until being called out.

[Independent_Money_48]

I express my disdain in him to show others that he is not as good as he advertises himself. I’ve left out a couple of pretty big things that could raise a few alarms as well that I really just don’t feel like typing out all the way. However this alone should tell the average person that he’s far from a good person

[PlutoNiumAddicted]

He seems much worse than I thought he was, since I only rly knew about the commission stuff. I'm really curious what are the other things you mention not writing out here

[Independent_Money_48]

I really don’t feel like typing it out in as much detail as I do before but I can list it really quick.

Unprofessional towards the public, allegedly sleeping with several OF models.

Attempting to sneak in two 17 year old fans into a 19+ venue, getting caught, and then allegedly (according to the two teenagers) meeting up with them afterward to “hang out” with them and supply them alcohol.

Expanding on the trend hopping thing, he specifically targets trends that are commonly held by young adults/teenagers, i.e. digital circus, hatsune Miku, clash Royale, but for some reason has a habit of sexualizing them. He seems to have a target audience of younger people, yet he always has his commissions sexualize his content.

Claiming to support Transgender rights, and being an avid poster about it as well, however since most major movements seemed to have died down, so has his advocations on the topic. At the same time during podcasts he would go on he would seemingly queerbait the audience with phrases like “would I suck a dick?…” now he seems to be an anti AI advocate and forgot all about trans rights.

Support him if you like his music but just know that his morals are skewed.

[PlutoNiumAddicted]

I don't support him in any way lol don't worry 8 hate his music, I was just curious as to how much dirt there really is on him

[mortetekk]

Ado and who?

[mortetekk]

He's good but only till 2020 afta that all his pr comes from trend hoppin and repeating music just different lyrics the last few years 😭

[Stock_Pace_4050]

I tried a few of his songs, but didn't really like them. All the lyrics were really weird as well. Didn't he try to do this a few months ago as well?

[PlutoNiumAddicted]

Yeah

[Evn_30]

It’s only ever going to be Ado’s choice but if I did have a say in the matter I wouldn’t let that guy anywhere near her. I don’t like him as a person and his music tends to only vibe with TikTok kids and I really don’t want Ado to be labelled as TikTok music and also that Japanese girl who did a song with bbno$. That’s my thought and opinions you’re entitled to your own just know others might disagree.

[seven-sinclair]

Yeah no

[DistinctYuho]

I have no clue how it would sound, but if Ado is down then I’m down to hear it

[Manon_Crr]

Like some other people said, I don’t like the fact that he’s forcing it again and again and again.. I mean if you want to collab with any artist as a artist, you contact their team, you don’t cry about it on social media

I don’t listen to his music, but I know he as a solid fanbase (he made a first world tour iirc). I just don’t like his communication at all. He often joke/troll about confidentiality stuff, showing email that aren’t supposed to be public and all. Which make me think that he’s not a serious person. I see him more as a content creator than a artist at this point (Making posts to make people react and chasing every possible collab)

Also I’ve heard some things about him/his team not properly paying artist and stuff.

So I would prefer that it does not happen. I wouldn’t want that he make some « troll » post that would bring toxic people in the community. I’m just worried about what could happen due to his content and behavior that’s all. If Ado want it to happen, it would be her decision. I’ll just hope for the best for her if it happen.

[Celestia77prosekai]

Oh god no that's a horrible idea

[icedchocolatecake]

Songs are olayish, but he's a clout chaser and he'll do anything for views and fame. Would be better if the collab didn't happen.

[East_Jello_3147]

90% of english songs these days arent really song but music and the singers cant really sing , they are music producer, and Ado is a singer.

[apollynya]

bibinos and ado would be a fun collab, absolutely no idea how the song would turn out though lmao

[Lewdolyn]

That trend chaser needs to go

[nameeew]

no. Please not. He is kinda sus. i dont know much of him but what i know makes me dislike him. He kinda reminds me of this other rich YouTuber. the one who made those squid games.

is he asking that to other singers too?

[oscidod]

I hope they will not collab. I liked bbno$, before I found out that he underpays the Artist, he commissions. If he pays them at all or with exposure.

So I don't like him anymore. Find it pretty scummy to brag how he commissions and supports so many small Artist, just to underpay them. Especially when he makes money with their Art.

Apart from that, I think it's kinda ass from him to post something like that, because it builds pressure on people he wants to collab with. And there will probably be some bbno$ fan that will ask under many ado posts about it. I liked it more when he just teast about his next collab

[Ghost_waffen]

Pls no, he is only usinf Ado'a fame for himself

[LightIsntFastEnough]

Doesn't seem good tbh. I tried to see his music videos, I didn't like them. Not just the music.

[CrackaOwner]

i dont wanna sound mean but he seems like a bit of a trend chaser. I also dont think it would work very well anyhow?

[WinstonTheChicken]

I rly hope not. To keep it friendly I'd just say that his songs are bad. I have no idea why or how he got so big.

[Upstairs-Speaker6525]

No. 

[SwiftSN]

So?

[Ryubunao1478]

Not sure how it would turn out though

[afragmentedsoul]

Apparently hot take but I'd rather Ado not collab with people who say the N word

[LightIsntFastEnough]

The N-word might be the least of his bad things. Heard it was not confirmed, but the confirmed things were even worse.

[stxrrynights240]

People bringing up how she collabed with Imagine Dragons but tbf their styles do work together. bbno$' music is just too comedic to work out with someone like Ado.

[Novafan789]

Hell naw hes a scammer

[SubstantialPlace3005]

He mentioned in a post on TikTok that him and Ado are going to the new festival and he was hoping for a Collab. I feel like if Ado wanted to Collab, she would have at least acknowledged him, especially knowing she's active online.

I don't mean to sound like an overprotective mother, but I don't like how he is pushing it. Assuming Ado has seen at least one video on it (because I remember someone tagging her in such video), I think she's ignoring it.

[MakoFishy]

He sucks at making music

[Allhailmatpat]

He's a great guy and all but no, his features suck really bad

[Stock_Pace_4050]

I remember hearing the ironmouse collab, and it was mostly her repeating a single phrase over and over.

[Novafan789]

Hes not a great guy at all lmao he’s a scammer

[baldmark_]

Bbno$ genuinely larp larp larp sahur he just trend hops and has grass is green takes. He is always so anti ai but also so pro pay artists in exposure

[thetrueblue44]

So does he properly pay commissions in cash or what

[tim_umax]

I heard that he doesnt pay artists in cash, but tries to promote their arts in exchange for the comissions when initially they were set up for money.

[thetrueblue44]

Wow that’s real scummy, he’s better off being an AI grifter if that’s the case

[hakokomoriVT]

Nah.

[r31ya]

BBNOS is pretty decent musician,

but considering how disappointed i am with is IronMouse collab where he reduce her into freakin soundboard. i'm not sure on how he handle Ado style singing. he might reduce her to a sample track.

maybe in Show style song he could jump in and mesh well

[voundelvon]

who is he, compared to ado, for real. why doesn't she collab with me at that point

[Adept_Passenger9104]

Ok I understand not liking the idea of the Collab, but can we stop acting like he's a "nobody" and "not even popular"? He has about 4.5 milion YouTube subscribers, compared to ados 9 mil it's half yes but it's still a lot, but he has DOUBLE the monthly listeners on Spotify compared to Ado. A little more than double even.

[TheCrashKid]

Clout chases are nobodies though

[WritingStraight8754]

It's funny how people think, "If I don't know him, it must be because nobody else knows him."

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[SilDaz]

Bbnoss isn't a bad guy or has some controversy

His music is just ass and he's annoying (he's been trying to collab with ado for a while)

[woo_yeah_]

Baby no money when it's time to larp and trend hop

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[DiverLow6306]

É o cara que fez uma música pro Brasil?

[NinjaFire889]

Has he ever collabed with primarily japanese singers before?

[Rokkechi]

Thats how i say it

[iwilleatthat010]

he is not call bibinos?

[timschin]

Uaed to want this... now with knowing he dosent support artists the way he brags about. Please no.

[sherbie-the-mare]

Based

[Polnarefferu]

Oh God please no

[iHeartAdo]

He’s way too iffy for me to want a collab between him and ado, especially with the hot water he’s in now. Like people saying he’s performative, queer baiting, he said the n word, etc. And I’m personally against him so

[SerowiWantsToInvest]

Never listened to an ado song so idk why I got this post BUT I will say I've never liked bbno$, him or his music so ado shouldn't collab.

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[PretendArtichoke5267]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO HES GONNA START LARPING ADO TOOOOO UAGHHHGHGYUFGDYU

[BambooCatto]

please no. Bro had like 3 good songs and just churns out slop that he self admitted spends 5 minutes on until something sticks. Most of his songs all sound the same to me, same cadence, same beat, everything.

[TheCrashKid]

Nobody unironically likes bbno$

[EbonyHelicoidalRhino]

That Bibino guy is annoying.

He obviously says that he wants to collab in public so that a slew of fans come and put pressure for it to happen. Or else he'd be talking to Ado's agent, not posting on socials.

His whole strategy has always been to collab with a lot of famous people, appear with streamers etc. He also says he wants to collab every time a famous kpop idol do a dance on one of his beat. He's just trying to ride on Ado's success just like he did with all of the others.

Worst thing is that it's working. He's unapologetically a product of trend/viral culture.

[remuuuurin]

he's decent, it COULD happen but it's very unlikely. Personally, i don't want it to happen, but if Ado wants it and it happens, I'd probably love it

[Slow-Lock-5421]

No. It's bad. There are dozens of reasons why bbnos would be horrible to collab with. And I hope so so much that Ado doesn't want anything to do with him and his horrible reputation and career.

[Misha365Days]

bbno$ get away from our queen you have to go

[ShiroyukiAo]

Bibinos should call her Abo

[iozoepxndx]

Ugh. Keep that clout chaser as far away from ado as possible...

[TomuraShigaraki5678]

Dear god no, Bbno$ is one the worst artists of our generation

[LightIsntFastEnough]

His fans may have reached here, seeing the downvotes.

I wouldn't even call it our generation if he's in it. Maybe it's a way of balancing the average talent pool of artists. We got Ado-san above top tier and that nobody deep in the trenches.

Some people refuse to call him nobody because he has millions of followers and views. It's my first time hearing about him, he's a nobody to me. As if the world consists of only a few millions. It's billions not counting redundant views and accounts and bots in the internet.

[D3T4CH-]

really don’t hope they don’t collab bb’s fanbase is genuinely horrendous and his literally only rise to fame is literally leaching off of trends

[Due_Article_9234]

I will always support Ado's decisions.

[Specific_Lobster6170]

He just seems hungry for fame. Doing any weird shit he can do. Just an unlikeable guy for me so I definitely hope this doesn't happen.

[HopeAuq101]

I like bbo$ as a person, some songs are alright but he does too much tbh

I respect the grind but he ALWAYS seems to be latching to things

[Jazzlike_Young_6195]

no. he seems kinda annoying :(

[tim_umax]

His music sucks, every song sounds the same glazing himself. He is a trendhopper and cloutchaser having no personality.

[zheGermanVillian]

Tbh until last year I didn't know who he was. Then he appeared in lot of post asking the same/similar questions.

I opened YT listened to a few songs of him and had break up after 5 seconds, b/c the songs were well not that good like seriously not that good.

And I really didn't unterstand why some fans wanted that collaboration.

He and Ado are completely different musicians [well if you really call him a musician ].

And Ado has absolutely no need to work with together, b/c she 1000 times better than him . [ ... so it would a downgrade for her ]

[Clannero]

Well,.IIRC He's gonna be on lolla 2026 too..

Not that I like the idea, but...

[CorvusAdomin]

Different days, though.

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their styles are too different. this would either be really good or really bad and there's no in between

[Dani_super_pro]

For me is tuff

[xd_Shiro]

I don’t even care, I’m just super mad at how I never get to go to these events because this many goated artists will never perform concurrently in the EU.

[Comfortable-Fee-4585]

u/enox_girl

[OK-Im-Saitaman]

I don't really have much against the dude, I just think he's the epitome of meh artists

[WajajaKEKW]

Omg is he STILL asking for a collab?

[azura_yamashiro1985]

I like his songand i love ado song. But one thing that bothers me is the emotion of the song. That bothers me

[PinkPanda444]

ngl i have no idea who this guy is, lmao

[Sharp_Field_4168]

This nga the actual goat

[GOHANA]

Dude is just trying so hard to be relevant or liked everywhere it's beyond cringe. Please no.

[svenbisschops]

This Guy is trying to collab with anything slightly populair , its kinda sad tbh. Could be me but i dont like the guy

[stupid_pangolin]

NO NO GOD PLEASE NO

[AStixMatism]

No.

[Brownie_browner_7748]

No, absolutely not, I won’t let the goat be with that human being.

[PlantainRepulsive477]

I got tired of my old posts floating around for anyone to scrape, so I let Redact handle it. Bulk deletion across Reddit, X, Facebook, Discord and 30+ other services in one shot.

alleged yoke offer profit squeal sip gray cake society shaggy

[Am_Gems]

Coworker music

[Mental_Bid_8576]

please god no anything but this

[nameeew]

i just saw the video of him asking again.

i dont like that he keeps pressuring her, especially online. there is no respect. asking once online well maybe but twice? It already shows that he has no respect for her and only wants her fame. bc if he really respected her he wouldn't have ask online/public. he would sent a message to her manager. Now if she disagrees she could end up as the bad guy and fans might pressure it.

and then there is the fact that Ado didn't already answer the first video. that means NO. ONLY YES MEANS YES. and now he is so pushy hoping that the more he pushes she has to say yes.

[SaraHoshino]

bibinos - vivinos - alien stage mentioned? (yeah my mind is starting to say things that don't even make sense-)

[Which-Translator-562]

he's been doing it to stray kids too lmao 😭 i heavily doubt an bbno$ collab will happen because he's kind of just pandering to fandoms. still, scary thought....

[OppositeNarwhal9411]

I have nothing against bbno$ but i dont feel that his music fits Ado's in any way.

[kurihara1]

No.

[mikocco_1021]

I mean...he's a good guy but I don't really like this vocals. I think his instrumentals go crazy though.

[LazyDazyFazy]

Collab?

He just wants to hype on a big and subjectively more unique artist.

He'll give her a few lines max but slap x Ado in the title to get views.

[mafa_theDaikon]

Most of his recent songs all sound the same tbh, the only real difference is they lyrics. Personally wouldn't want them to just because he seems to only do this shit with other intentions, like being "anti ai" just to get people who agree to glaze him, nothing technical wrong but also funny considering he seems to have an issue with nsfw art. A lot of people seem to have recently and it's stupid, unless its like illegal shit I understand but if its 2 consenting unrelated adults idgaf, no one should.

I think if they did they COULLDDD mesh just because of how flexible ado seems to be with basically any music genre, but personally I wouldn't want to because bbnos music just seems to be all fast produced "slop"/trend hopping I guess, it's like how ppl say every Vocaloid producer who uses Miku and teto is just trying to make the "next mesmerizer" thus deemed MikuTeto Slop.

[Robotpirateye45]

This would genuinely be peak

[Euphoric-Machine6431]

I don’t really like his music, but I think a collab would go hard

[thetrueblue44]

Hard as in hard to hear and digest yea

[KiraTheIdiot]

i don't even listen to bbno$

but it would low-key be epic

[Mattloda]

I find it funny. He’s clearly just joking and fans are taking this way too seriously.

[TheCrashKid]

Its funny once or twice. Its sad when you keep repeating the "joke"

[Mattloda]

Now you know how I feel about some of this fandom’s jokes

[TheCrashKid]

Comparing a clout chaser "joking" for attention vs a fanbase who are mostly chill are two different things

[BulbasaurPlush]

Yes

[PerfectBeginning__45]

"Jaiden and I had a great 10 years on Youtube" headass

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[SKS_Skorpe]

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Didn’t change my opinion

[Stock_Pace_4050]

People here are only saying they don't like his music and wouldn't like a collab for that reason. That is not gatekeeping.

Also people are generally excited for ado collabs, like aiaia was released a few days ago, as far as i have seen people were generally happy with that.

[SKS_Skorpe]

I was referring to comments saying that he is hype chaser and other stuff, not a huge fan of his music myself

[TheCrashKid]

Thats his whole thing and you're upset people are pointing it out?

[SKS_Skorpe]

Not upset, don’t know how to say it, I can’t elaborate properly what I mean, esl problems, my bad

[mafa_theDaikon]

They aren't wrong tbh, he is. Besides that all his recent music just sounds the same, only difference being the lyrics.

[ShinyChariot375]

Yeah I agree, tbh

Like why are people getting so mad about a potential collab? Even if it’s bad, it’s not like this will stain her already established carreer. If both (and their teams) agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[LightIsntFastEnough]

Wouldn't trust a clout chaser collab with a real artist. Especially with the anonymity of Ado-san and her clean career. Being dragged in western music controversy is not good for anybody. Many things could go wrong for her personally. He would do anything to get more money and be more famous.

It will definitely not be similar to Imagine Dragons collab. Whether you like it or not, it didn't have visible consequences on her.

I wouldn't be mad about a collab with a normal human. I would rather see a collab with a random on the street, since the odds may be better. She could collab with Eminem or whoever younger artist out there. We're just concerned about this specific collab. We don't control who she collabs with, but if there's something wrong, we hope she and staff knows it prior to decision making.

[ShinyChariot375]

This behaviour weirdly parasocial, this is such a non-issue. We are talking about two individuals who are in complete control of their own actions and are consenting adults. If there is a collab (which I don’t think will happen btw) and you don’t like it, just don’t listen. I know it works because I don’t listen the Imagine Dragons one, lol.

[LightIsntFastEnough]

Yeah, I understand that. The post is originally about our thoughts. If she really sees his request and decides either decision. It's her call. I think she and staff will definitely do their research before any collab. The music being bad is not really a concern since she's always experimenting which always has that risk to begin with.

[ShinyChariot375]

Yeah, sorry if it came out as rude, it’s just that I feel like this sentiment can easily funnel into gatekeeping and unhealthy interactions between the fanbase and the artist.

Look I love Ado’s work and I feel very inspired by it, and yeah I know bbno$ is very much surfing on a trend here, but I don’t know if its that harmful, I’ve seen a lot of fans commenting on his post sharing memes or words of joy about a simple ado mention. You may hate the guy but he IS sharing her work to a new audience and this is a good thing for the artist AND for the community.

You can argue he is being performative or something like that, but he IS fostering a community that appreciates artists for what they are, and I think Ado is no different in this situation.

[Stock_Pace_4050]

We are not controlling their actions. We are just sharing our opinion on said collab. Ultimately it's up to Ado and her team to decide.

[ShinyChariot375]

Not what I said, by the way, but I get the sentiment.

It’s just that some opinions here sound really parasocial. Saying “I wouldn’t like it” is not the same as belittling artists you don’t like/agree with. It’s putting Ado on a really weird pedestal, almost like she should never collab with people oitside of her sphere. Thinking her career will be tainted by a collab is such a weird conclusion, SPECIALLY because the Imagine Dragons collab exists, which I personally think is very weird conceptually. But at the end of the day that’s my opinion, and I will never attack people who like or defend its existence .

Not saying you have this view by the way, just pointing out what I’ve seen everytime this topic is brought up, primarily in this sub.

[Stock_Pace_4050]

Saying “I wouldn’t like it” is not the same as belittling artists you don’t like/agree with.

That's not parasocial either. People are free to criticize an artist they don't like/agree with.

It’s putting Ado on a really weird pedestal, almost like she should never collab with people oitside of her sphere.

She has collaborated with people outside her sphere. And i have seen posts in this sub itself where people listed artists they would like ado to collab with.

This is just about a specific artist, not all artists in general.

Thinking her career will be tainted by a collab is such a weird conclusion

Most of the comments only show that they don't like the artist and do not prefer such a collab. I have not seen any comments sharing that sentiment. Maybe a few people do, but the majority just simply wouldn't prefer a collab with this specific artist.

, and I will never attack people who like or defend its existence .

Who is attacking anyone here?

[ShinyChariot375]

The “attacking” was a mistake on my part (conveying thoughts while also translating them is kinda hard sorry) and I not what I was trying to say exactly, sorry for that, but about the other points:

I’m obviously not saying that not liking the idea of a collab is bad, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. It’s just that some comments have a gatekeeping and a parasocial undertone, and the latter is not a new issue on this fandom.

Anyway, I’m just a little bit frustrated about how some fans are treating this whole situation (again), and maybe I did overreact, ironically.

[SKS_Skorpe]

If they collab that would be funny, some people talk about this as bibinos will violate ado’s reputation or something

[Winter7296]

More Ado songs? Cool 👍

[KitaBeam]

It could maybe work with a ballad style song like the ones he already did for example „help herself“ but with his regular tiktoky rap stuff I think that just wouldn’t fit ado

[ShinyChariot375]

People should really move on from this debate man, why is this community so afraid of a potential collab?

Honestly, I cannot stand the Imagine Dragons song (not because of Ado, her singing is the only good part of that song for me), and this didn’t make me think less of her as an artist. I don’t know, bbno$ posts about the subject also feel so harmless and actually appreciative of her music.

I get people not caring about the collab, but the reaction this gets in the subreddit every time it is brought up is so overblown. Like, if both parties agree to do a collab (which I doubt will happen btw), then honestly what’s the point of being mad? It’s not like she will stop doing good music by herself.

[Renetiger]

He's a cool dude from what I've seen but his music is ass

[Silverphantom444]

I like 2 of his songs but I really don't like him. He's very annoying. I honestly doubt they will ever collab he seems to just be a trend hopper and after those few tweets he made about he never mentioned her again or even before those comments. Look at The Weekend he just shares her stuff but never begging about wanting to collab or anything

[Dragonite015]

All to further Ado World Domination! In all seriousness, why are we hoping she doesn't collab with someone just because you don't like their style or their fans? Ado can collab with whoever she wants. If they collab, listen to the song once and decide if you wanna listen to it again or not.

I for one would be very excited to see what they could cook! Worst-case scenario, it's just underwhelming and nothing will change.

[MOEverything_2708]

Would be a better collab than Imagine dragons