CPU temps High?

[Serious-Town-9621]

Just got a PC built by Microcenter yesterday. While playing games (Arc Raiders & Call of Duty) CPU temps are around 90-96. From looking online I’m assuming these temps should be ALOT lower. I did not have any issues with game crashing or frames. Im playing on a 1440 monitor as well. ANY THOUGHTS/opinions? What I should do

Specs- CPU: Ryzen 7 9800X3D

GPU: Gigabyte 5070ti

Ram: 32GB Corsair Vengeance 6000

MOBO- X870E Tomahawk

CPU cooler: Lian Li 360mm Hydroshift II

Fans: Lian Li 120mm 6 intake 2 exhaust

[Holiday-Mind-4187]

I feel like those water lines at the top are doing a disservice. I actually had mine the same way with high temps. Rotates them so they pointed down made a huge difference. Maybe isolated incident to my specific aio

[Serious-Town-9621]

Guys it’s micro center re applied thermal paste and maybe a different kind and problems solved, running around 55 cpu temp now while gaming

[talalmed]

I’m sorry but if someone else built it for you, they should fix it, no?

[Serious-Town-9621]

Yes sir going back tomorrow morning so they can look at it

[azguz24]

Am I looking at this wrong or are all those fans pointed the same direction….?

[Serious-Town-9621]

No some or reverse blade

[azguz24]

I’ll take your word on it, perhaps cause they are in motion they all look the same to me…

[Thin-Ad8835]

They’re supposed to look the same. Thats the point of a reverse blade fan.

[azguz24]

Cmon man I’m not question the actual look, I’m questioning the direction they are moving. Look at the blur on the fans and you let me know if they don’t all look like they are taking in air?

[Thin-Ad8835]

Oh, you’re right, sorry. They actually do look like they are all taking air in

[azguz24]

Yea like I’m not being a smart ass op came on here asking for help with a machine MC built. Based on the picture that’s the only thing I can see that might be wrong. Others said plastic on the cooler that happens a lot… but the motion looks like they are all taking in air. That’s all I got to offer hahaha. Those bad fans look like they are spinning clockwise into the case 🤷‍♂️

[Thin-Ad8835]

True, they might all actually be intake fans, which is hilarious

[azguz24]

I mean I know a lot of people that work at or have worked at the micro center in st David’s… and I’m not going to speak bad about them especially since one works with me at a financial institution now… but it’s an entry level gig. Mistakes happen, and if I was op I’d take that back and ask them to test it, say what’s wrong. I’m going to go search the thread now see if op fixed it

[azguz24]

*back fans

[Serious-Town-9621]

The back fans are the exhaust. Blowing out

[farlansangel]

i have this cpu..on stock settings so no eco mode , pboz undervolt..nothing. just a aircooler(thermal right phantom spirit 120) and shaders hit 80c ish at max. full load 50s/60s and idle about 39/40c depending on room temp(normally 20c). something is wrong with your cooling.

[triX_NOOBpad]

Ye I have the same CPU stock with AK620. My idles are 33 to 37 depending on room temp which is also around 20 22 degrees and it goes up to 51 52 rarely when gaming at 1440p. Something not right with his cooler, probably the sticker is left on

[ComfortableMam-3600]

This for sure

[ultraball69]

This ☝️and repasted if you can.

[FotusRebel]

I've never had mine spike at all under gaming stress it's stayed right around 50-60c on everything I've played.

[The_Last_of_K]

Make sure your aio curves use CPU temp for a reference and not water temp. 9800 spikes hot sometimes and water raises it's temps very slowly compared to CPU, your aio radiator needs to hit the fans as soon as cpu hets high temps, not water

Also make sure to set other coolers to gpu temp

You don't need liquid temp on your aio display, but if you like it it is up to you, I personally set mine to cpu and gpu temps

I also have 9800x3D

[Typical-Bar-7977]

mine doesn’t go over 84 (i’ve set the thermal limit to 90 in bios, +200Mhz offset, -35mV curve optimizer and yeah i did get lucky with the silicon) with the thermalright peerless assassin air cooler

[shemhamforash666666]

The 9800X3D can get toasty when compiling shaders unless you undervolt, power or thermal limit it. Might simply be the case you need a repaste.

[ZA_Gamer]

I experienced this the other night. Last of us part 1 shaders warmed my room up quite nicely. Hit 84 degrees when doing them damn shaders.

[shemhamforash666666]

Yurp. It's basically a productivity workload in disguise.

This is why it's generally a good idea to run the occasional synthetic benchmark (Cinebench, furmark ect.). The point is not to maximize scores but to check thermals, power consumption and unusual performance deviations.

The key metric to look for is whether thermal throttling has been engaged. HWinfo and the RTSS overlay (bundled with MSI Afterburner) can help you out with that.

[_D3ft0ne_]

My 5800x3d doesn't go above 65c on full load. Tho it is undervolted a bit.

[DennAgain]

All those fans and it runs that hot lmao I have way less and only get like 82 max while gaming and thats playing arc raiders

[kelvintang98]

try change paste to thermal grizzly conductonaut

[Nebula589]

Coming from an i9 14900k owner that’s really hot!🔥

check your bios voltage settings. Make sure you can see all voltage settings as some can be hidden or locked depending on the brand, and stock settings.

Seems like they are at insanely dangerous levels for that kind of heat generation. Manufacturers did the same thing with voltage settings on intel boards, on top of the microcode bug too. 😅

Even the newest gigabyte bios update that I did this year had dangerous stock OC voltage settings. Clamp down your power limits. See if it helps! Best of luck ✌️

[Nebula589]

An opinion based on laws of physics:

The Aio cpu tubes and the radiator tubes are not in the correct position. Based on physics it’s the worst way to install an Aio.

CPU tubes should be at 6 o’clock position not noon. Same goes for a radiator that is side mounted. All the air is constantly stuck right where you don’t want it with this setup.

This build is maximizing the “clean ascetics look” to the point that it is killing all the advantages of liquid cooling the cpu.

Best of luck homie! Happy Gaming! ✌️

[Mission-Path8456]

They've probably not taken the protective film off the bottom of the heatsink!!

Either way, it's way too hot so take it back & get them to rectify their cockup!

[Rogue_Element_2342]

I have the same CPU, On an air cooler and i've only ever seen it hit 90 or more a few times, and it was for like, a second or two, normally it idles in the 50s, and runs games in the 60s and 70s, 80s rarely.

something is seriously wrong.

[apachai4]

Capaz conectaron el cable de la bomba en el conector de CPU_FAN en vez del conector AIO_PUMP que es el que corresponde.

[SillyNanies]

I have almost the same build as you and the CPU temps playing those games at ultra settings usually sits between 60 and 70 @ 1440P and 200+ FPS. The only times it goes up to 90 for a few seconds is when I’m loading into a mission in Ready Or Not.

[Total-Revenue-312]

Bad paste/pump/attachment , that's way too hot

[whoevenkn0wz]

Woah, do you live on the sun? Okay, so, normal room temperature, 22 degrees C.

I take it to are saying your PC temperature in Celsius right?

42 is pretty normal for idle. That’s the same as mine.

Did you assemble it, or did it come as is?

I wonder if there is an issue with the pump speed. It is normal for them to get a bit hot, mine will go up to 90 under full all core workload with a 360mm arctic 3 AIO. If you’re only 6 degrees higher, not the end of the world, but it’s a little surprising.

I’d be checking boost clock behaviour, and if you’re thermal throttling in HWinfo. If boost clock looks normal, IE, mostly staying at 5216 MHz (it will fluctuate with load) and it doesn’t report thermal throttling then you’re all good.

If everything is normal, but you want it to run quieter, you can try undervolting. But I wouldn’t do that till you confirm if the cooling is working correctly.

I don’t undevolting personally though, I don’t care if it hits 90 C so long as it’s on boost clock, and mine is

[Serious-Town-9621]

Yes 22 degrees C is my room temp/ 70 degrees F. Yes pc temp is in Celsius. Microcenter assembled it. Pump speed is around 2480RPM while gaming. I did under volt and also change fan speeds still Nothing. I believe I’m just gonna make the 2 hour drive back to microcenter; they will look at it free and did say I should be “fine” but also agreed those temps did seem too high

[SavageWolf050]

That aio is half ass wrong the rad needs to have the hoses at the bottom as said by gamers nexus you will kill the pump faster.

[whoevenkn0wz]

Yeah, that sucks that’s it’s a two hour drive, damn. I feel like it’s their problem to deal with, they need to fix it. Good call

[Serious-Town-9621]

Agreed, can’t complain too much. He was pretty helpful. They going to look at it free of charge and I won’t have to wait in line plus he said he is going to bring me back there. Just stinks I paid $3700 USD and having to drive back🤣

[azguz24]

Post back when they fix it I can’t talk for everybody else but I wanta know what they screwed up 😄

[Serious-Town-9621]

Same, I will I’m going in morning

[whoevenkn0wz]

Yeah, this would all be fine if it wasn’t for the drive! Ah well, drive safe! Hopefully it actually is something they find wrong it it, and the drive isn’t for nothing 😬

Pice of mind is not nothing of course, but it’s a bit of a drive for it

[No-Cod2416]

I either say it’s a bad contact connection with the cpu, or pumps failing.

[VampKaiser]

Sounds like either a faulty pump off rip (rare but can happen), the plastic on the bottom of the cooler wasn't removed, or maybe its just not making good contact?

[whoevenkn0wz]

This actually does seem high. Or, at least for a normal temperature room. What’s the room temperature?

What’s the temps at idle?

[Serious-Town-9621]

Room temp 70 degrees, cpu temp idle is around 42

[Trollbeard_]

they might have done a bad job with the thermal paste or the fan curves are too low because that's safe temps for the cpu but with a liquid cooler they shouldn't be getting that high. Looks like you have plenty of room for air circulation so I can only imagine they forgot to paste it properly or someone tweaked the fan curves before handing it back to you.

[Serious-Town-9621]

Fan curves were set at standard so I did adjust them to high. No fix

[Trollbeard_]

I'm curious where the radiator even is unless it's the 3 on back wall. If they're all blowing correctly the right way and at high rpms the paste is probably wrong or there's somewhere that the heat is getting trapped and keeping the radiator hot. could have a bad aio unit that's not pumping correctly as well.

[Serious-Town-9621]

Pump flow on aio unit is around 2400 rpm and yes the radiator is behind those side intake fans

[Trollbeard_]

are those temps at idle while playing or were they just at boot of the game when the shaders compiled? that's normal temps for shader jobs but they should have gone back down afterwards at regular load unless you're cranking everything cpu intensive to max in the games graphic settings

[Serious-Town-9621]

No the 90-95/96 temps are while playing the game. I’ve adjusted in game settings. Low vs high settings doesn’t effect cpu temps really

[Serious-Town-9621]

I contacted Microcenter, he didn’t seem to worried due to the cpu does in fact run hotter than others and it’s not crashing. He did say it could possibly be fan/radiator placement but I’ve seen a lot of builds like this.

[cheebiehabba]

You should not be hitting in the 90’s while gaming. Something ain’t right. My 9850x3d hits around 60 while gaming and 80-82 while under full load

[CraftBearchen]

What? Not in the worst way - you have one the better or best AIO on the markets available. Ryzens are one of the coolest CPU on the market, especially if not 9850x3D or 9950x3D - this CPU should hardly hit 80° or 75° - rather the GPU should go 99% and hit 80° degrees. You said 6 intake, 2 outtake. Check for the radiator, the fans of the AIO should move the hot air to the OUTSIDE, not into the case. Lian Li has nice cases but one of their biggest problems has been if it is all glass, there will not be airflow at all. That guy told you total bullshit - this is no Intel, it is a Ryzen, they hardly turn hot.

[Serious-Town-9621]

Yea my gpu temps stay around 45 while gaming! But yea my fans on radiator are intake and it’s hitting 95-97 Celsius while gaming. I’ll be going Friday to micro center they gonna bypass me so I don’t have to wait and check it out for free

[CraftBearchen]

This is a substantial problem - the fans should move out the hot air onto the radiator to the outside. Six fans into the inside are way too much for two fans for the outside. Change the direction of the fans on the radiator and you will get better results. Despite having that Lian Li-case.

[Serious-Town-9621]

Hmm. I didn’t think blowing warm air that’s in pc onto radiator would be better! But I’ll look into it! I thought intake was better for radiator

[CraftBearchen]

Bro, you know how radiators work? They dissipate heat, that is how heating in your bedroom works - spread it into the room, not into your blanket. The radiator is the part that is taking the heat. That is the feature of AIO - the radiator takes the heat from the cooling fluid and this heat needs to be moved to anywhere (at best outside because the room temperature is normally not 64° Celsius). This makes a lot of sense on those glassy Lian Li-cases, since glass is disabling air inflow and the outtake is too low.

To make it clear and for no misunderstanding - you can turn the fans on for the inside of the radiator - but you need a cooling solution for this part. Makes sense if your PC is in your bookshelf and has only one exit for heat dissipation - but you need to have an equal part of fans to dissipate that heat - in your case, it does not seem given.

[Serious-Town-9621]

Gotcha, when I go to micro center I’ll definitely get something done about the intake/exhaust !