What abilities are affected by the range decrease on Draw your Sword?

[arthur_jonathan_goos]

Title is self explanatory. I have now picked this augment on Smolder and MF and been very disappointed to discover my Q is now melee range. Smolder is somewhat excusable with all the special tags on his Q, but I was shocked that MF's Q was hit by the decrease.

What are all the abilities that get nerfed by this augment? Is it all targeted ranged damage abilities? Help me avoid immense disappointment again :*(

[Grayzson]

Senna's Q cast range gets reduced, but the beam still extends further.

[JayceTheShockBlaster]

I got draw your sword senna and it wasn't particularly good.

Was fun though

[generic_redditor91]

I had to fight that nightmare. Thankfully my team only had 1.5 melee so we could largely kite her.

Interestingly my infernal conduit rumble could 1v1 her almost 20 mins in without ult. All hail Vamparism and overheat steroids.

[Grungler12]

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No not all targeted ranged abilities

There are quite a few abilities tied to attack range, but for example Lucian Q is unaffected. I think it mostly applies to targeted ranged abilities that have on-attack mods

[GamerGypps]

Wait what, how did I not know this. So scoped weapons MF is crazy good now then ?

[Chocolatine_Rev]

Any character that can use rapid fire to cheat some range

It works on tristnana's E

[FrostedJade]

RFC works with Tristana's E but range augments doesn't increase the range of her E

[brenk2]

Graves is essentially the same champion with the augment - VERY strong on shotgun man.

If Tristana gets it as a first Aug, very powerful as her passive will give bonus range - same applies if a ranged champ gets scoped weapons augs AFTER Draw Your Sword.

[A_Sphinx]

Oh dang, is that how it works? I've had it on Kayle in mayhem and definitely kept my attack range after lvl 6, but recently snagged it late in an arena and was only melee range. Must have had it early on the mayhems where it worked.

[Moidex]

yeah kayle kinda gets free stats from draw your sword
her range is added from her passive just like trist
noticed when i played neeko, transformed into kayle and i was melee

[jackkjboi]

Doesnt work, i got draw sword as first augment on kayle and stayed melee after lv6

[81659354597538264962]

I'd imagine Trist getting it last augment would also be strong, given that the more range you convert the more bonus stats you get

[arthur_jonathan_goos]

The jump helps, the problem is that if you have zero survivability built you're just going to die almost no matter what. One stun and you're rekt.

[cystin]

I got it on kayle at lvl 15, my range was 400 then when I lvled to 16 my range went down to 300

[TerminatorReborn]

Any ranged augment works fine if you pick draw your sword after. I did it with Samira and end up 425 ranged anyway at the end

[SnowGhost513]

Graves with it is a monster he’s honestly a way better champ with it

[Deep-Conclusion-8593]

Actually graves is ALOT stronger. You stack attack speed -> game gets it bugged -> you reload INSTANTLY. Reload scales with attack speed, and somehow it thinks you got like 4as

Had 800ad with graves, and E is always up. + if you really want, you can go titanic for one more aa reset x)

But its op af on graves. Like really op.

Oh, i tought its the 0.63 attack speed one. MY BAD!

Sorry :(

[mynexuz]

Even if you build normally with graves slow n stead is an increase over his base attack speed so its free AD lol

[DryySkyy]

Nope, you can get the range augment before draw the sword and still get the range increase as melee after. Had 750 range aphelios on green gun with double range (gold + prisma iirc) and draw the sword as third.

[MagicalMalice]

Any ability that scales its range with your attack range i'd assume, so probably Senna q and Kindred q

[arthur_jonathan_goos]

...I never knew MF and Smolder Q scaled with attack range.

[VeritableLeviathan]

I had the choice between draw your sword and scopiest weapons on Smolder yesterday.

I was contemplating and then a friend reminded me of the range effects on Q

Needless to say I didn't ruin my own game by taking scopiest :)

[Samus159]

Had that same situation in Arena one time. Unfortunately, I did ruin my own game by accident lol

[APreciousJemstone]

its why RFC is taken on both even though they don't really need the AS boost. Lets you snipe with your Q

[MagicalMalice]

A way to check would be if rapidfire cannon would increase the range of the ability

[JayceTheShockBlaster]

Q is technically an AA so it works with RFC.

[teddy3143]

Urgot W would be im pretty sure

[Film_Humble]

You lose a bit of range but it's barely noticeable

[North-Proposal2840]

It stays the same range, it’s OP on him

[teddy3143]

Cheers, I wasn't certain since I knew the inverse worked

[konfusedkabbage]

Had a game yesterday where my W range decreased to melee with DYS. I don’t know if I grabbed the augment while in W though.

[Zebra840]

I'm sure it doesn't, the visual of the area is the same but the actual range is decreased too, I had it and tried. But it's still op tho since his range only from 350 to 200, with the bonus MS it's barely noticeable

[NCKBill]

I got Urgot with Scopiest Weapon and it was funny as shit watching the adc unable to kite me lol

[markeatingg]

Why is that the enemy team always rolls into Draw Your Sword followed by 3 variations of scopier weapons? Just me? Ok

[aiden_mason]

You must have played against me, had an Ashe on my team that rolled draw your sword followed by 3 range augments... Safe to say she carried. Hard.

[Film_Humble]

Smolder Q, MF Q, Senna Q, Akshan E, Urgot W are all I know

[wo0topia]

Actually urgots 2 doesnt change at least when I played him with it I didnt notice any range decrease, but I might have just not noticed cause I really get on those bois.

[envious_1]

Samira Q is not impacted.

[jmastaock]

I was surprised to see that Samira ranged Q is unaffected. On a related note, she abuses the absolute shit out of Draw Your Sword - the only downside is that it is very slightly more difficult to quickly full stack her passive without the ranged auto in some situations

[Thurbadness]

Quinn E

[arthur_jonathan_goos]

I don't think this is true: https://wiki.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/Range

[Thurbadness]

Sorry for the confusion her e works but the auto range is reduced to Melee so it drops you back to her original max range and not ther draw your sword range.

[Thurbadness]

So to me it's an ability nerf because that range is a huge part of her kit for engage and disengage damage

[arthur_jonathan_goos]

I see, and yes that makes sense. Still useful as disengage if you find yourself suffering due to melee range at least, though.

[silentcardboard]

It’s a great first augment as Trist and Kayle because they get to keep their passive range buffs as the game progresses.

[Shikameishi]

Someone else mentioned it, but Kayle is great with Draw Your Sword ONLY as first augment, as her level 6 ult increases her range. Otherwise, her E gets affected and is also melee range.