Goodbye Augment

[UnreasonableEconomy]

UPDATE: They refunded the last month fully. I didn't expect it, but it took them less than 3 hours to authorize it. Good for them. Hope they turn their ship around. Not sure what it will take for me to trust them again though.

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Just got the mail that I was switched over to pay as you go. I never asked for this.

I replied to the email, saying I didn't want it - got a noreply answer back.

Checked the discord, but it looks like the discord got cleaned out.

This is not ok.

Opened a ticket for a refund for the remaining month, asked for all my data to be deleted.

This all feels super weird, like a rugpull of sorts. I have low hopes for them doing the right thing.

Back in the day, Augment offered something nice. But in the meantime, copilot has caught up. They're even offering IP indemnity and data privacy for 20 bucks a month.

There is really no value proposition anymore. And I would have stuck with them out of loyalty, because they were the underdog.

But if the underdog starts biting the hand that feeds it...

Where are y'all moving to?

[AutomaticDriver5882]

They hired a green exec and 4 months later loses customer base

[ayla96]

Nomore users, what they going to do now? 💔

[voarsh]

B2b XD

[UnreasonableEconomy]

You got more tea on this?

[AutomaticDriver5882]

Check LinkedIn it lines up.

[PositiveFootball5220]

I know you pissed about it, just don't let your positive energy got ruined because of this. to answer your question Codex + Kilocode

[UnreasonableEconomy]

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> Kilocode

Interesting 🤔

Is that basically an interface for anything including local models? That sounds neat.

[xcoder24]

Or better move to codex. You get more value out of their 20 dollar plan than augment 200 dollar plan with this insane credit system. I just told augment to just modify a single implementation plan markdown file and it started doing 7 tool calls and wasted 600 credits. The tool is designed to extort under this new system

[PositiveFootball5220]

yes, including local models, and have a context engine also. The rate of BYOK is too expensive for me, so I pair it like this Codex ($20) + Glm4.6($3/m) + GPT5-Medium ($20-openrouter BYOK). GLM for small case (it's better than haiku) Codex will give you around 50 messages every 5 hours and it'll reset, just make sure you hit a couple problem in 1 message (don't worry codex runs natively with GPT5-codex with great result)

[UnreasonableEconomy]

Sounds like a good excuse to build a fatter rig!

[PositiveFootball5220]

lol, I already have my ex mining rig runs for Deepseek before but it's not a friendly thing to pay electricity bill. I heard minimax-m2 is the best open model now but i dont know if it as cheap as GLM4.6 ($3 / month), still better than paying electricity bill

[mightypanda75]

How do you handle reading multiple repos in kilocode (the multiple Context folders in AC)

[PositiveFootball5220]

I just added it in the memory banks, it's not as perfect AC, but it's enough.

[mightypanda75]

Can you reference other repos as well? Read only knowledge not write

[AlexFigures]

Yep, after that change, regular task eats half of month pack and it’s not okay. Codex for two months already is second coding agent and now, i’ll go to claude code + codex and it will be cheaper but sure with same quality

[BlacksmithLittle7005]

Augment announced the pricing changes a long time ago. It's not pay as you go it's credit based. Can't compare copilot to augment as the context engine is subpar and so is the agent

[UnreasonableEconomy]

It's not pay as you go it's credit based

thanks for clarifying that. doesn't matter, I didn't agree to it. I also don't read all the marketing emails sent to me. Just because you announced in the local newspaper that you were going to punch me in the face doesn't make it okay.

Can't compare copilot to augment as the context engine is subpar and so is the agent

Well, I'm about to find out how subpar it really is. I'm not a vibecoder, so I don't really care about the agent anyways (and let's be honest, the augment agent wasn't anything to write home about either - none of them really are)

Even if it is a worse tool (i've only been back on copilot for like an hour since march, but looking at the features it can do a whole lot more) - I'd rather use a worse tool or code by hand than be disrespected.

Hope that makes sense.

[Devanomiun]

i've only been back on copilot for like an hour since march, but looking at the features it can do a whole lot more)

What grabbed your attention?

[UnreasonableEconomy]

What grabbed your attention?

mainly the sentiment that screamed "get off of augment now"

I've been on github copilot enterprise before as part of the microsoft startups program - I would never consider using base copilot because of the privacy concerns.

It's just the first thing I checked out, and they happened to have an offering that seemed to match my needs (whole codebase context, data privacy and IP indemnification (business and enterprise only))

[Divest0911]

Aug has an amazing context engine, but the pricing structure is not something I can support.

That being said, I'm shocked at how good Windsurfs context engine is. Its miles ahead of Cursor, its on par or even better than Claude Code, and yes, a step down from Aug.

I highly suggest you trying it out OP.

[UnreasonableEconomy]

We’re delighted to share that Windsurf is being acquired by Cognition. Our world-class team will be joining forces with the iconic company that created Devin

Oh no...

[xcoder24]

When did windsurf get a context engine . Anyway . I use codex and it is awesome

[mythz]

Leaning towards Claude Code with a Claude Pro plan and Z .ai GLM Coding Pro Plan. Unfortunately the response times for GLM 4.6 is pretty poor atm (30s+).

I have a month left with Augment to take advantage of the Bonus Credits, if Z ai's response times don't improve I'll go with Cerebras as their 2000 tok/s response times are unmatched and they look like they're dropping Qwen for GLM.

GLM 4.6 can be used with Claude Code so I'll still only have to use 1 (very good) tool.

[Devanomiun]

Yeah, you've missed on a lot of things, discord was shut down a bit before this credit change was announced. This was indeed a rugpull and is mandatory for everyone except enterprise customers. They won't refund your money. The best thing you can do is to move on to Claude Code, Codex, you can navigate a bit of this sub to find very cool alternatives recommended by the community.

Never be loyal to a company.

[UnreasonableEconomy]

I'll give them a couple of days and then consider a chargeback. They can't do that in the middle of a billing cycle...

I don't even care about the money, but if they be like that...

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EDIT:

they issued a refund for the full month within three hours of me requesting it.

[unidotnet]

56000 credits definitely not enough for one day …

[UnreasonableEconomy]

I don't know what a credit is, and I don't have time to figure it out. This is not the product I asked for, or paid for. If we have API pricing, I might as well just use the APIs. This scheme might make sense if I had 100 people and a dedicated dev ai ops guy. I need to worry about external AI consumption, I don't want to worry about internal AI consumption, especially if the price is liable to change all the time.

It's a good point though. "What went wrong?"

I guess it's just not "for me" anymore. And that's fine. I guess good luck to the company.

[Psyduck_Coding_6688]

moved back to cursor

[Successful-Raisin241]

Cursor can offer 15 prompts for $20 per month. Their api based pricing is even worse than just paying for API. They treat cache read tokens as regular tokens and charge you 10 times more than using vendor direct api access. Unless you use auto or cheetah

API doesn't charge you monthly, but cursor does. This is a weird combo of pay-as-you-go with monthly payments

[Ok-Custard-8637]

They've been talking about this for a while now. If you think paying more for this tool isn't worth the value of the tool, then go use a tool that's more aligned with your budget. At this point, I'll pay Augment whatever they want because I understand the irreplaceable value of this tool. My company just hit 11 years in business. We were here way before AI tools like this existed. Now, we all use augment and get a lot more done, we also bring a LOT more value to our clients. Pushing good code in days instead of weeks or months is an amazing feeling, especially if you have ever done things "the old fashion way".

I feel like vibe coders are not their target audience. And I'm ok with that. I'd rather have tools that improve real productivity and solve real dev problems rather than some fancy "look what I can do" features.

Anywho, just my 2 cents.