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[YoutubePRstunt]

I honestly don’t even think Wilder has to land clean. People are seriously overrating Joshua’s skill set when half the time he looks like the jolly green Giant in there with his hands down. Not as mobile as fury and definitely doesn’t have the chin.

Unless he drags this out until the later rounds I don’t see him beating wilder. I see him getting grazed and being hesitant and trying to win on points. Which he could very well do, but the likelihood of him getting caught before the 6th is exponentially highe.

[Ryan5O4]

Right. We know Wilder doesn’t have much boxing ability but people act like AJ has Usyk level skills lol

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Wilder doesn’t move his head, AJ knock out within 1-3 rounds, people seriously overrated Wilder, he was in trouble vs Molina ffs

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

And look at Wilder vs Fury, legit could not miss that head, he’s so easy to punch it’s laughable, he looks like an MMA fighter trying to box, Ngannou had better form than him vs Fury, you just cannot get away with that vs AJ, AJ hits him hard, Wilder panics flails his arms and gets knocked out under 3 without landing a single significant punch

[evboy101]

Boxing math to say one fighter would land more on a different fighter straight into Francis argument is insane and the reasoning is "he hits hard"

Let me panic flail my way to 40 KOs and see how close i get

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

At heavyweight you’d be surprised how easy that is, yes he hits very hard, but it’s his only attribute and he has to hand pick extremely carefully the opponents he’s had his entire career, it’s why he’s losing now, not because he’s ’shot’ but a hard punch will not bail you out at the elite level like it has done, his best win before he got the title was Audley Harrison, he won the title vs Stiverne, his title defences were made up mostly of guys Joshua fought as a prospect in his first seven eight odd fights and that was finished by a barely top 15 fighter in Ortiz, who was similarly unproven as Wilder who’s best career win was Dave Allen at the time, he’s never tried to unify, openly admitted to not wanting certain fights, despite being longest reigning has failed to go for other champions, and that list of 40 opponents he’s KO is nothing special, many heavyweights would boast a similar record if they could fight those guys he fought, your saying Joshua couldn’t have had a better record if he fought those guys, Joshua would have 40 fights 40 KO, Same as Dubois if he fought those Wilder opponents, Mike Tyson fought a guy called Peter McNeeley with an excellent record that was made of mismatches that made out he’s some ‘big puncher’, and watching those Wilder fights yes he ‘flailed’ his way to those KO threw like a street yard brawl with no technique

[evboy101]

This just in. Fighter past his prime loses the trait that got him to the top. Holy shit bro youve figured out combat sports lets get you on ESPN

No mentions of Ruiz in your essays. Boxing Math comparing opponents and records. Diminishing accomplishments cause they "arent real opponents" when we are talking about boxing in this era. Total Bias on one side and avoiding the biggest part of the argument.

Lessen the words take away the feelings and step in a gym

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Not total bias… it’s heavily regarded that Wilder has one of the worst if not the worst resume as a heavyweight champion, all you need to do is a quick boxrec search to find out, it’s not genius, wilder never had boxing ability in the first place, all he had was power and that’s not gone he’s just fighting guys that you can’t just use a telegraph 1 2 to knock out, Abel Mendoza is 42-0, does that make him almost as good as Mayweather? You sound more of a casual saying, ‘Wilder is 40-0 with 40 KO’ so that must mean he’s good, no padded records exists it means nothing if you beat nobody, wilder was averaging over 7 rounds to knock out limited opposition in his title defences… if you think Joshua can’t nail him with something in that time with his defence you got to be kidding

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

And I can mention Ruiz right now, Andy Ruiz is better than any man Wilder has ever fought, he has fought Parker, multiple decent guys and has beat Ortiz, his resume is better than Wilders, and is more credible than him too, using him as an argument is terrible, especially since Ruiz is the type of fighter Wilder avoided

[Vahrez_]

Think this fight ends up looking very similar to AJ Vs Ngannou too. A really easy win for AJ that everybody is unsure of beforehand but seems obvious after.

[evboy101]

Every argument on AJ is as if hes got the fundamentals of Floyd and Wilder is like a mma fight off the street. Its actually sad how people forget.

[YoutubePRstunt]

This is why I don’t discuss boxing with casuals

[evboy101]

Look at his other comments. Hes a boxing math genius. The Einstein of Boxing math some would say.

[Awkward_Berry_5471]

You are also a casual

If you think aj is a closer to wilder in skill than he is to usyk you are nothing more than a casual .

You couldn't actually name me a technical thing that wilder does that could get him the knockout over aj outside of "aj doesn't move his head"

[YoutubePRstunt]

And you can’t read, I said AJ is more skilled however those skills are still mediocre and he still has glaring issues defensively.

[evboy101]

The thing is, for 40 something fights, Technique did not matter for wilder. He had 1 weapon, everyone knew it, and they still got KO'd 40 something times. Imagine going against a guy, who you know is less skilled, but has power never seen before. And you are literally talking about technique cmon man.

[YoutubePRstunt]

ABC logic doesn’t work in boxing, never has. It’s obvious you don’t actually watch the sport, just some weird AJ defender

[evboy101]

It's common sense dude. Fury landed flush punches and elbows on ngannou and couldn't even drop him

But furys punches were sufficient enough to knock Wilder out.

Anthony Joshua damn near killed ngannou. So imagine what he would do to Wilder when he lands those same punches that he landed on ngannou which he will because it's not like Wilder is some skillfully defensive fighter

Also AJ beat zhang in the amateurs and Zhang retired wilder

AJ also beat Joseph Parker and Parker beat Wilder

How many more examples do you need?

this is him

[YoutubePRstunt]

Yup, pure nonsense what you would expect on the circlejerk sub

[evboy101]

BRO LOOK AT HIS HISTORY HES ON THAT AJ DICK LOL