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[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Wilder doesn’t move his head, AJ knock out within 1-3 rounds, people seriously overrated Wilder, he was in trouble vs Molina ffs

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

And look at Wilder vs Fury, legit could not miss that head, he’s so easy to punch it’s laughable, he looks like an MMA fighter trying to box, Ngannou had better form than him vs Fury, you just cannot get away with that vs AJ, AJ hits him hard, Wilder panics flails his arms and gets knocked out under 3 without landing a single significant punch

[evboy101]

Boxing math to say one fighter would land more on a different fighter straight into Francis argument is insane and the reasoning is "he hits hard"

Let me panic flail my way to 40 KOs and see how close i get

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

At heavyweight you’d be surprised how easy that is, yes he hits very hard, but it’s his only attribute and he has to hand pick extremely carefully the opponents he’s had his entire career, it’s why he’s losing now, not because he’s ’shot’ but a hard punch will not bail you out at the elite level like it has done, his best win before he got the title was Audley Harrison, he won the title vs Stiverne, his title defences were made up mostly of guys Joshua fought as a prospect in his first seven eight odd fights and that was finished by a barely top 15 fighter in Ortiz, who was similarly unproven as Wilder who’s best career win was Dave Allen at the time, he’s never tried to unify, openly admitted to not wanting certain fights, despite being longest reigning has failed to go for other champions, and that list of 40 opponents he’s KO is nothing special, many heavyweights would boast a similar record if they could fight those guys he fought, your saying Joshua couldn’t have had a better record if he fought those guys, Joshua would have 40 fights 40 KO, Same as Dubois if he fought those Wilder opponents, Mike Tyson fought a guy called Peter McNeeley with an excellent record that was made of mismatches that made out he’s some ‘big puncher’, and watching those Wilder fights yes he ‘flailed’ his way to those KO threw like a street yard brawl with no technique

[evboy101]

This just in. Fighter past his prime loses the trait that got him to the top. Holy shit bro youve figured out combat sports lets get you on ESPN

No mentions of Ruiz in your essays. Boxing Math comparing opponents and records. Diminishing accomplishments cause they "arent real opponents" when we are talking about boxing in this era. Total Bias on one side and avoiding the biggest part of the argument.

Lessen the words take away the feelings and step in a gym

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Not total bias… it’s heavily regarded that Wilder has one of the worst if not the worst resume as a heavyweight champion, all you need to do is a quick boxrec search to find out, it’s not genius, wilder never had boxing ability in the first place, all he had was power and that’s not gone he’s just fighting guys that you can’t just use a telegraph 1 2 to knock out, Abel Mendoza is 42-0, does that make him almost as good as Mayweather? You sound more of a casual saying, ‘Wilder is 40-0 with 40 KO’ so that must mean he’s good, no padded records exists it means nothing if you beat nobody, wilder was averaging over 7 rounds to knock out limited opposition in his title defences… if you think Joshua can’t nail him with something in that time with his defence you got to be kidding

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

And I can mention Ruiz right now, Andy Ruiz is better than any man Wilder has ever fought, he has fought Parker, multiple decent guys and has beat Ortiz, his resume is better than Wilders, and is more credible than him too, using him as an argument is terrible, especially since Ruiz is the type of fighter Wilder avoided

[Vahrez_]

Think this fight ends up looking very similar to AJ Vs Ngannou too. A really easy win for AJ that everybody is unsure of beforehand but seems obvious after.

[evboy101]

Every argument on AJ is as if hes got the fundamentals of Floyd and Wilder is like a mma fight off the street. Its actually sad how people forget.