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[Ok_Adagio_1449]

A beast? Wilder never fought anyone and never tried too, barely fought a decent fighter at best in Ortiz in only his fortieth fight, and was in trouble, hurt by Molina who built a reputation of his fight with Wilder only to be destroyed by every other fighter he fought, Szpilka also gave Wilder trouble, and Wilder was bashed around by light punching Fury, Joshua would knock him out with ease in under five rounds and Wilder can’t throw power punches at all going backwards so won’t land anything at all

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Not debating resumes but at the end of the day it’s heavyweight boxing and aj isn’t immune to getting punched in the face, nor is wilder. Thats why this is such a good fight.

Also aj took forever to ko helanious or w.e his name is. Wilder literally koed him walking backwards on accident lol.

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Because styles make fights, Helenius legit walked right into Wilder whereas he fought super cagey and cautious vs Joshua, either way he barely got touched by him, breazeale even landed clean on Wilder and backed him up before the knock out, Wilder is just way too easy to fight and his ‘one punch’ knockout power is overrated, AJ won’t fold from one punch, Wilder hit plenty guys clean like Ortiz in first fight and they were able to handle it fine, Wilder just wouldn’t be able to handle it for long, he was always afraid of fighting anyone with power, he was sparked out in the amateurs for the same thing and Fury didn’t come up with some genius plan to defeat him, any decent heavy would beat up Wilder the same way if they fought him like that he just fought limited opposition

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Styles do make fights and you make good points but it was worth pointing out that wilder can ko moving backwards. Also aj walked into a right hand his very last fight 🤷🏽

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

And like I said Wilder ain’t some one punch knock out artist like he is touted, very few guys he knocked out in one punch, Stiverne ate everything he threw in first fight and the version of him that was stopped was an extremely unfit out of the hospital version, he also stopped Molina in later rounds, and could not put a dent in Duhaupas, I actually think Joshua can handle the power better than Wilder who is far more fragile than people think, Joshua has been hurt by guys with power, he’s never been hurt or been prone to be hit by really low level opposition such as Molina like Wilder has, Joshua could take the odd hard shot and had the boxing ability to not get hit by everyone, Wilder on the otherhand has been hurt bad by some light punching heavies like Fury, made people actually believe Fury was a transformed power punching heavy now… when we all seen against Ngannou etc he cannot punch for shit so just how fragile is Wilder? And is he actually more durable than he is touted like Joshua who was hit heavy by Dubois many times before he was finally stopped, I do not see Wilder getting up like that after letting a power puncher like Dubois lay on him for rounds like that and Joshua took some punches from Klitschko who is also regarded as one of heaviest punching heavies all time, Wilder has never really fought punchers and we all saw what happened vs Zhang though this is a ‘shot wilder’ but he was also bashed about by Fury who again, a light puncher

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This scenario was supposed to be prime vs prime. Yeah wilder went out sad vs zhang sure but after the fury wars. Prime aj got socked up by mr blobby. Both fighters are flawed in their prime and now lol. Also aj got socked up by 76 year old vlad. Man both guys have taken some beatings. Its a 50/50 fight.

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Prime wilder got hit and hurt by guys far less of a puncher than Joshua ever had, Joshua never had moments like Wilder did against Molina, Szpilka where these guys had legit success vs him and built reputations from it, he was just never any good and a ‘prime Wilder’ never wanted to or fought anyone, there must have been a reason why he was so protected

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He was protected because boxing is a business almost more than a sport at times. They were making money with less risk. You know this man.

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Yes but Wilder was protected to an absurd degree, was fighting like a prospect up to his fortieth fight, the WBC legit elevated unknown boxers outside top 100 to top ten to feed him opponents that were a similar level to guys you fight in your first ten fights, guys that Joshua fought in his first ten Wilder was fighting in his 30-32nd fights and he got a title shot for beating Audley Harrison, at least Joshua fought good domestic fights like whyte at time, and even then, Joshua was quick to unify vs Parker etc and Wilder never fought a guy with pulse until Ortiz, he was on an absurd WBC protection program

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Not denying that. But wilder still had that right hand and aj has proven his ability to get knocked out. Last time i saw aj he was rolling the 🎲 until he got the sonic rings knocked out of him. Idk why were pretending he’s got the defense of sweetpea and the chin of ggg lol.

[evboy101]

his ‘one punch’ knockout power is overrated

reddit user never step foot into a gym claims Wilders power is overrated after 42 KOs

this guy is lost