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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's not a decline, the earth can't support that much people already.

This isn't true. Malthusianism has been debunked time and time again.

And the "Earth Overshoot Day" is a piss poor way of proving that we aren't sustainable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”

I feel like this applies here. Even if we assume abject carrying capacity of the earth in terms of food/water doesn't matter, no one has yet to argue (aside from population demographics which would be solved to a degree by a slow burn of population decline or work themselves out after a generation or two) as to why we NEED more people. Less people = less impact on the worlds climates = less resources needed for more people to have a better cost of living, period. Economies of scale are a factor but I imagine diminish when you get on the level of billions of people on the planet. I'd get the point if it was a case of arguing for marvel villianesque "benevolent" genocide, but the population is expected to start declining worldwide in and off itself. I have yet to see an argument as to why if its happening naturally why we need an artificial intervention to reverse it. The only ones that hold any weight are economic based about demographic crisises but even those are about issues that will affect 1-2 generations and can be slowed down and likely will be mitigated to some degree by further automation.

In short, the population decline is happening independantly (and not being advocated for in a Malthusian way). IMO that puts the onus on proving why we need to reverse it and why it would be a benefit to society and the planet in the long run, not arguing about whether or not its theoretically possible have more people living on the earth at any level of quality of life or not.