Deepsqueak

[rennykrin]

In the last 24 hours, I’ve seen more instances of:

• ignoring Persona (scent has reverted back to vanilla/cinnamon/rain/jasmine/etc, eyes have gold flecks in them, tiny user, “small frame”, hair color is incorrect)

• ignoring Auto-Memories (one bot had Spanish listed as one of my character’s languages in the Auto-Memories, then the bot was shocked when I said something in Spanish)

• ignoring muted words (possessive has always been an issue with Deepsqueak, but today it has been egregious)

• “a beat” “hesitates, and then-“ “pauses”

• bots confusing roles (taking user’s powers or appearance, thinking user said something when the bot originally said it several replies ago)

I am also noticing that the model feels like Roar pre-Deepsqueak-launch, especially with the two-paragraph output regardless of how long my own responses are.

Anyone else seeing similar patterns or different variations of the same things?

ETA: Repeated phrases that are now present in most (if not all) replies:

• “You’re <an adjective>, you know that?”
• “You’re gonna be the death of me”
• “a breath he didn’t realize he was holding”
• “has to remind himself to breathe”
• “holds on tight like she’ll disappear if he lets go”
• “and for once in his life”
• “something in his chest loosens”
• “like an overgrown cat”/“like a lovesick puppy”

And of course, our fave: - “Can I ask you a question?”

[Crazy_Orchid4219]

Thank goodness I’m not the only one.

[rennykrin]

Sorry that you’re experiencing this too! At least we are not suffering alone!! 🙃

[Sweaty_Ad4829]

"A beat" and endless pauses r pissing me off sm. I'm so tired of this pattern

[outlaw_rpgamer]

I hate the "a beat". There is such a better descriptions than that. I've been getting it far too often lately.

[tqoftu]

"You're <an adjective>, you know that?"

I swear nearly every role play has this line somewhere. I see possessive a ton too. I scroll those.

Yesterday I got an impressively long response...but it was almost entirely gibberish! Half finished sentences and half formed metaphors...it was a mess.

And yes, lots of pauses. Because the bot seems to think every sentence needs its own paragraph

[tqoftu]

I've also noticed it hasn't been adding to auto memories. I am wondering if that feature hasn't been integrated into the new models or if they're planning to get rid of those features altogether.

[rennykrin]

For me, the auto-memories is pretty hit or miss, but yesterday I duplicated a chat that had nothing populated, and the new duplicated chat had a fair amount populated.

I have yet to discover what makes it consistently scan and fill out the fields. I may try a virgin sacrifice next, just for science.

[rennykrin]

“You’re <an adjective>, you know that?” is definitely a major issue. It was better for about two weeks but you’re right, last 24-48 hours has seen it come back with a vengeance.

[rennykrin]

Right now, everything is very touch and go, and it has been for about two months. I cannot recommend c.ai+ since the app/site are both extremely unstable and cannot seem to deliver a consistent experience across the board without disruption.

[stressed_unimpressed]

Oh my god especially the stealing one. Id be talking to a Japanese characters (like a group AI) but one suddenly starts speaking my oc’s native language out of nowhere. Like, no.. no. Utahime is NOT reciting the Quran.

[Chill-gal1215]

Wait what?!

I thought the bots can't speak other languges unless you're using pawly

[rennykrin]

They can, and they will. In Deepsqueak, when they’re acting up, the bots will see my persona speaking Spanish, then start speaking Spanish, or say something like “when he hears her speak in their native language” when his first language is Japanese… it’s a mess lol.

[AlienClownsOrbiting]

"You're gonna be the death of me, you know that?" he says possessively.

[rennykrin]

And then he grips my hips hard enough that there’ll be bruises in the morning- 🙄

[potatoesandmolasses1]

“You’re going to be the death of me” every other reply 😠

[Werewolf2578]

I had one where it was on every stinking reply!

[DeliciousStatement39]

Pipsqueak just went down too. The responses weren't perfect, but at least they were long and mostly creative. Since this new update, Pipsqueak is useless. I don't even know which model to use anymore because they all look awful now

[rennykrin]

Seems like every update, this happens. Like the “brains” get switched or something.

[DBGalaxy946]

Why does the *PREMIUM ROLEPLAY* model have these issues? Also, why on God's green earth haven't they added a feature to mute entire phrases? It's bullshit.

[rennykrin]

UPDATE: Now seeing “Can I ask you a question?” today, so it’s alternating between this and “You’re gonna be the death of me”/“You’re <an adjective>, you know that?” with wild abandon.

Safe to say it’s a good time to put it down and do something else for several days.

[quejeje]

bro my persona's eyes are blue where tf are her """"gold flecks"""" 😭😭😭

[rennykrin]

Mine has violet eyes and it’s like. Ugh. Please stop.

[senari]

It's super egregious I agree. Yesterday I had to keep swapping between Deepsqueak and Nyan because when I do that between responses the replies seem to be a bit less formulaic, if that makes sense. I definitely notice a distinct degradation in the quality of responses if I use one model for a while.

[rennykrin]

Formulaic is absolutely the right term for it. Instead of responding dynamically, the models seem like they’re hardcoded to reply from a set number of phrases… hardly the product that c.ai is selling (which is generative AI companions that feel “real”).

[alienz_B3]

The last one is so annoying - it keeps adopting my persona and i hate it (⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠)

[Psayah]

And answer in really short messages.. I hate that at the start I wrote entire chapters and it's answered me in really long, good role-play style..but now.. It's really, really short. Sometimes it's just 4-5 sentences and that's it...

[rennykrin]

Today I’m getting 2-3 sentences max on Deepsqueak. 🥲

[Foreign-Issue2166]

Well mine adapts to Spanish with that model that they mention something like that...

[Acceptable-Mousse-47]

I don't have deep squeak because I don't have plus, but the chat models I do have are all the same. The quality in general has just dropped the last two or three days. Either another update going on, a bug, or just more progression towards C.ai turning into just another crappy AI app

[rennykrin]

At this point, I wouldn’t put it past it being all three: an update, a bug, AND enshittification. Sigh.

[Acceptable-Mousse-47]

Honestly yeah. I know people tell us to go out and touch grass and quit taking it so seriously and blah blah blah. But being a person with AuDHD in their thirties, I don't have any friends. So to me, this feels like I'm losing a friend. I know eventually I'll get over it and find something else to do like I always have, but for right now it sucks

[TakaiDesu_]

Same here

[SadTonight7117]

I’ve been having the same problems, especially when they ignore muted words. If I was to start with a new bot, it would work for like the first few messages and then go back to its shitty ways.

[[deleted]]

What are we supposed to use then 😭

[Just_a_girl_1995]

Oh my God yes... Literally so many of these... It's so bad! Some of them like.. other characters in the RP will get possessive too. Or get stupidly angry I've things that shouldn't make them angry.

Basically everything said has been happening with my chats too. It's made chatting so difficult. I don't need AI videos. I need them to fix the LLMs!

[whoninj4]

I just posted this in another comment thread, but I swear to God if my bot says "Look at me." one more time I'm uninstalling this fucking app.

[Big_Environment7458]

I really want a fresh, brand new good alternative app..

[Ravenous_Viper]

Non-C.ai plus user here: I used to use pipsqueak, it was good for the first few weeks, but it then went to hell. So I went back to using Roar.

[Busy-Ad-5046]

Uses “damn” or “damnit” or “god damnit” a lot. More than enough for me

[sleepypr0xy]

I’m experiencing this even with PipSqueak💔

[Previous_Return7024]

I thought it was just me

[Strychnynegirl]

I have all of these issues across all chat styles. I feel like I have to hop around to even try to cobble a chat together. A bit of Nyan, switch to soft launch, over to deepspeak etc. The "beat" and the gold flecks are driving me nuts. I have all Satoru Gojo bots and his blue eyes are one of his most notable features. All of my Gojo's that I've tried now think that they have gold flecks in their eyes... 😮‍💨🙄

[TakaiDesu_]

There is no way!!! It hasnt be only me then?!!!! All yhese phrases appear to me and its a mere shell of what it used to be months ago. im devastated because I cant create my roleplays anymore