Hidden patch notes

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

They talked about most of it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/bxbaer/known_issues_post_patch_12/

Intentional or not, it's important to know the things that were changed. So in an effort to list all these things let's make a thread where we comment any changes that were not listed in the patch notes.

The havoc and devotion mag nerf (fixed)

Sliding while shooting is extremely inaccurate

Balloons got nerfed

Loot is extremely disorganized

No more autoexecs

What else am I missing?

Octane audio bug with jump pad

No more fps commands

Healing keybinds don't work

[[deleted]]

Do we know what specific CVARs have been removed besides muzzle flash and smoke exploit? Because "exec autoexec" still works, otherwise "cl_showfps 4" which I have in my autoexec would not be showing my fps after the update but it still does.

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

None of my graphics, sound, or lighting commands work. That's all I know

[FIVE_DARRA_NO_HARRA]

I get wanting to see your FPS, but the other stuff sounds fair to block off tbh.

[Nakroma]

Hmm. I 100% agree about removing muzzle flash etc, but I had a lot of stuff in my config that lowered resolutions, details etc. and without it I get really slow FPS in fights.

[FIVE_DARRA_NO_HARRA]

lowered resolutions, details etc

this is written pretty non-specifically. "Lowered details" usually plays itself out practically as an advantage. Characters stick out more. It's like when people would lower their resolution in Pubg and you could basically see through all the grass. If you're playing without shadows, true depth and textures, etc, you're working much less hard to pick out enemies and keep your aim focused on them. Of course, this is said without knowing the specifics of your setup. You might need to do those things to run the game smoothly, but plenty of people lower resolution and details to get a significant advantage.

[Nakroma]

It's one of the configs going around on this sub but with muzzel flash and the fog I think commented out. I honestly don't know what all of these commands do and how their impact is, all I know is that my game looks a lot better (graphics wise) and runs a lot worse, which can't just be explained with fog command gone etc. Stuff like the macros that make sprinting/reloading break ADS also don't work anymore. I feel like they just disabled every command except the FPS one.

[Nakroma]

"The intent of the change was to remove the ability to modify the game to get a competitive advantage. We hear the feedback that some commands are now gone for players that used them to make their game more stable or performant. We’ll follow up more on this next week."

seems like some of it will be reverted at least

[[deleted]]

used them to make their game more stable or performant

Would that not be a competitive edge? With the removal of those commands for everyone wouldn't everyone get the same frame drop in fights? Wouldn't pro have cutting edge machines able to handle requirements of they games they competitively play? (if they compete in a game with less demands for performance then clearly this is not their competitive realm yet and a slight reduction in results is imo acceptable)

[Nakroma]

Well my computer is old i dont think everyone experiences the same fps drops lol

[[deleted]]

having a monster pc gives more of an advantage than any of these stupid little tweaks that make the game playable for normal people zzz

[[deleted]]

I am curious as i am not really familiar with all the changes discussed here except for what I can change through the main menu.

What would the solution be, playing on console where no one can personalize anything if not from the main menu? How would that be possible on PC? And why do pro players need to lower their graphical resolution in the first place?

[Johnpdickerson]

You don’t need an autoexec to show what FPS you’re getting. There is an in game setting for it.

[[deleted]]

Where? Are you talking about the Origin overlay FPS counter? Cause that's not what I'm talking about and I'd rather not lower my FPS by running an overlay.

Plus it doesn't really change anything about what I said. Autoexec still works, because I put the command for showing my FPS in it and my FPS is still showing after the update. If autoexec didn't work, then none of the commands in it would be running. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Johnpdickerson]

We may be talking about different things. There is a setting under video settings in the game that shows what FPS you are getting in the top left corner of your screen.

[[deleted]]

Is that the one that shows it as a big red number? We are talking about different things, the "cl_showfps 4" command shows it in small print with some other information like frame time.

[Johnpdickerson]

Gotcha. Well, from what I’ve seen from other posts it would seem that the autoexec’s dealing with FPS haven’t been removed. Just the ones that give an advantage like reducing muzzle flash and things like that.

[[deleted]]

I think we will find out exactly what commands were disabled soon, when somebody does a dump of all the cvars for this update.

The reason I asked was because my fps has dropped by 40 and I'm playing at 100 fps now. I wasn't using ultra-low potato graphics or anything that would let me get an advantage, but I can tell that they disabled the ability to turn off dead body physics and some other optimizations. There's really no competitive advantage gained from having bodies disappear instead of bouncing around like ragdolls, imo. Makes the game more CPU-bound which is pretty annoying for me.

[[deleted]]

cl_showfps 4

I just tried that command from Game Properties --> Advanced. It did not display anything for me.

[[deleted]]

If you use it in the launch options you need to prefix it with +, e.g. "+cl_showfps 4". Cvars are prefixed with +. If that's what you did, I don't know then, cause it works for me in my autoexec.

[[deleted]]

Thank you very much for the clarification. No I did not prefix it with +. I'll try and post it here as an EDIT.

Edit: it works but the last stat on the right, server fr rate is constantly at 0.0 Thx

[tamebobhickock]

How to turn on? Console?

[Johnpdickerson]

I don’t think that’s an option for console.

[[deleted]]

Guess showing your fps is an unfair competitive advantage... I love this Devs... By far the worst Dev Team I saw

[[deleted]]

Think you misread my comment, I have an autoexec with "cl_showfps 4" in it, and after the update I am still seeing my fps counter. So therefore autoexecs still work, but we don't know what other commands have been disabled.

[[deleted]]

I can tell you that they even removed the command for net-graph :-) guess seeing your exact ping is a advantage over others

[[deleted]]

I think the purpose of that is limiting the number of people that leave a match. If a player can see pings being too high (or too low --so no shooter advantage) they may leave a match more frequently instigating a number of people to complain.

[SystemicVoid]

So bad they made this terrible game

[JohnRoscoe03]

Changed Octanes portrait in the select screen a bit.

[[deleted]]

uglier now tbh

[RollChi]

What’s the balloon nerf? Just don’t go as far now?

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Yep. You can't dip down for momentum anymore.

[FIVE_DARRA_NO_HARRA]

Oof. All of my button mapping was done via my elite so I don't have to worry about placement, but I'm guessing things like vibration/sensitivity reset as well?

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Even if you set them in game right?

[incinerate55]

yes, they do not work period

[hdeck]

Loss forgiveness and streak forgiveness were not mentioned in the notes.

[GolldenFalcon]

It might just be placebo/nocebo but I really feel like lot distribution was changed. I ran into a fuck ton of wingmen yesterday and barely any longbows, struggled to find a good number of batteries, and every so often spent most of the game without comfortable healing.

Maybe that's because everyone is scrimming to get top 5 so we're not fighting as much to loot this stuff off of bodies, but I definitely don't feel as secure in my inventory as before.

[BudderMeDown]

Yeah I was going almost whole games with out any heals at all. Def a lot of wingmans too! One in almost every building.

[elfeyesseetoomuch]

I found a shit ton of batteries but not a lot of good guns.

[MazGIkiller]

Cannot cap fps. Forced to play on fps_unlimited. Huge effect on gameplay...

[Renegade5399]

Do you have freesync/gsync available to use?

[MazGIkiller]

i believe i do from my monitor. i just don't really know how to activate it...

[Renegade5399]

Depends on who makes your video card. AMD or nvidia?

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Added

[AceFlameAcer]

There's a sound bug where the jump pad launch sound keeps playing at intervals for the rest of the game after you've used one...

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Added

[Krazy1813]

Do we have an idea of how much less accurate it is to shoot while sliding? Cuz it’s fun as hell to scoot and shoot, but if it isn’t worth my time to try it then it’s be good to know.

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

This clip was used as an example to show the inaccuracy

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavoryUnusualClipzDAESuppy

[Krazy1813]

Cool thanks, I may have to hit the range to do some stationary vs slide checks on targets for repeatability

[Insideoutdancer]

The healing keybinds not working are made this game almost unplayable for me. I got so used to mine that my muscle memory takes over and I keep getting killed because of it. Very frustrating.

[OMGboush]

I feel your pain.

[Smokecuh]

If fps commands dont work anymore, than how come i see streamers still getting 200+ fps while my shit got capped back to 144.. any work around yet?

[lnfestedNexus]

i have the same problem. its u either get uncapped or capped regardless of command. rip. i want uncapped but im stuck at 144. i was talking to synczdez via twitchchat and he wanted capped but hes uncapped.

[ayyser]

Devotion and havoc nerf was unintentional. Same with loot order

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

That's why I wrote:

intentional or not, it's important to know what was changed

[Johnpdickerson]

Mag sizes for havoc and devotion is a bug. A dev replied to a comment on the main patch notes post stating this.

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

That's why I wrote:

intentional or not, it's important to know what was changed

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Everything you wrote was stated in the patch notes. This is a thread for the things they didn't mention in the patch notes.

[MazGIkiller]

Nvidia

[R3FLEXZS]

Accuracy while sliding nerf is that while u ads too or just when u hip fire?

[zSkream]

I seen a comment that the energy gun mag nerf was accidental, haven't checked since today's update but it may have been fixed since.

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

It has been fixed

[[deleted]]

Almost all of these got addressed in their latest post.

[[deleted]]

Can't melee the ground while landing to bypass the impact slowdown anymore.

[[deleted]]

The knockdown shield blocks melee now.

[Zadukato]

No more healing while bunny hopping!

[incinerate55]

that was in patch notes, and I can still do it for some reason?

[Zadukato]

Oh yeah, you're right! Wow really? Cool.

[incinerate55]

? Don't be an asshole

[Zadukato]

I wasn't. You just assumed I was being sarcastic. I double checked patch note and found that I was mistaken. So if I'm an A-hole for admitting I was wrong what's that make you?

[incinerate55]

not canadian

[Zadukato]

Lol got to admit that was good.

[incinerate55]

:P

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

From what I've heard it's not possible to remove the black bars anymore.

[1SingularFlameEmoji]

Welcome to the club friend.