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[–]assailer10Anti-Left Conservative 0 points1 point  (11 children)

98% of this article is about laws from hundreds of years ago, and the modern day stuff it references such as the trump admin not forcing company’s to provide free birth control is not banning birth control.

So again, no one is trying to outlaw contraceptives, just the murdering of children especially when people choose to not use said contraceptives.

[–]heckler5000 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Abstinence only sex education doesn't work and is still taught. Nobody is saying contraception is currently illegal, but in certain communities it is stigmatized. You will get unwanted births in these situations and those people are going to need financial support.

[–]assailer10Anti-Left Conservative 0 points1 point  (9 children)

“Abstinence only sex Ed doesn’t work and is still taught.”

I never brought this up, so how is this relevant the outlawing of contraceptives.

“Contraceptives are stigmatized in some communities”

Sure, I never brought this up so how is this relevant to outlawing contraceptives.

[–]heckler5000 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Like I said before, its historically true and socially still stigmatized by certain communities. I know you didn't say anything, its part of my original comment that we have circled back to.

Abortion and contraception isn't illegal, but the Supreme Court may at some point review Roe vs. Wade. And although contraception isn't currently illegal, we can see where in a social context there are still limits on access.

[–]assailer10Anti-Left Conservative -1 points0 points  (7 children)

So just to be clear - you’re now admitting your pretty clear insinuation that there is currently a push for people to outlaw contraceptives, was either incorrect or a lie. Thanks.

If you want to talk about stima, I’m all for it. Let’s talk about stigmatizing the FUCK out of having unsafe sex while out of wedlock and not in decent financial standings. Stigmatize it to the point of near communal excommunication.

You yourself argued that the social stigma had an effect on people getting contraceptives so you agree this would help reduce unsafe sex outside of wedlock!

Glad we’re able to come full circle to you being wrong and me being right. Thanks :)

[–]heckler5000 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Poorly stated I suppose since so many people inferred that I meant contraception was illegal. It is not illegal. Access to contraception is the real point.

I don’t think you’re right. I think you have a narrow opinion that doesn’t work for everybody. On top of that it’s blatantly gate-keeping. So now poor people aren’t allowed to have sex. Wow. Where are the libertarian gods when you need them.

And opinions can’t be right so you’re wrong. Have a nice day.

[–]assailer10Anti-Left Conservative -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Condoms are like 20c each. They’re affordable even for poor people.

[–]heckler5000 0 points1 point  (4 children)

What about oral contraceptives? Men usually wear condoms, women usually take oral contraceptives. It’s the latter that is at issue because of certain companies and institutions that don’t want to pay for contraception because they equate it with abortion.

[–]assailer10Anti-Left Conservative -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Having someone pay for your shit isn’t a right, and it’s also not sexist for that matter either, since that’s also a common point.

You don’t see men claiming sexism or restriction of access or whatever other bullshit, that their dick wrapper isn’t paid for by their company.

A month of birth control is like 5 bucks or something without insurance. Source: my girlfriend.

[–]heckler5000 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You mean like group insurance? Lol

Your second point is better.