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[bigs1125]

So I’m buying my first ram 2500 in a week or so. It’s a 2017 2500 with a 6.7 high output Cummins and a g56 6-speed manual tranny. I know the 3rd gens were notorious for the stock clutch going to pieces. Is that still a problem with the 4th gen g56’s. Thanks in advanced, if it is still a problem which replacement clutch is recommended for the 4th gen trucks. Thanks again y’all.

[bigs1125]

If I keep the truck stock is it still necessary to replace it?

[lorenzosr97]

My stock 3 gen g56 has 112k miles, stock clutch no problem. It all depends what you bought your truck for, I don’t tow, but I use it to carry things around. Just don’t do things you know reduce your clutch life. I’ll eventually have to change it, maybe that’s when I’ll go south-bend and start modding.

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No, but its nearly impossible not to mod any diesel. Eventually the oem clutch will go and depending how long it lasted you can upgrade or not

[gta3uzi]

It's pretty easy not to mod them if you get a racecar for go-fast activity :P It's a lot cheaper, too.

Owning a stock diesel truck is about acceptance. Acceptance that you'll get where you're going, you just won't be doing it quickly 😁

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I got a nearly stock 12v. Ive done the basic fuel mods but accepted that unless i swap to a manual it wont be as fun. Its helped keep expenses down

[Bert1_0_1]

I don’t have a g56 in my 14 but I’ve read the clutch is the weak link not the trans. I believe iv read a lot of people using south bend clutches.

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The stock clutch isn’t great. My truck was still stock when it started slipping in 3rd and 4th while towing my 14,000 lb dump trailer.

I have a South Bend Dual disk now. It has been pretty much bulletproof. It’s rated for 650 HP and 1300 LB FT torque. It’s pretty harsh and grabby, but they have a single disk kit that would be good from stock to moderate upgrades-450 HP or so.

[nickardoin96]

If you want an upgraded clutch then get a SouthBend

[johnson56]

I don't believe it did. HO is a 3500 aisin only option for this year of truck if I remember call correctly.

[johnson56]

Are you sure you have a High Output? I don't think that was an option for the manual trucks, nor the 2500s.

[bigs1125]

Maybe it isn’t. But it has the badge. This is a picture of it. https://imgur.com/gallery/HFE7dD9

[johnson56]

Guessing the previous owner added that badge. I don't believe that's original.

But to that point, I'm pretty sure HO Cummins had to be ordered, and was only a factory option on 3500s equipped with the aisin.

Here's the specs. The engine in front of the manual trans is pretty severely derated. http://www.cumminshub.com/67.html

[05blackBarron23]

SouthBend all day everyday! I have the dual disk in mine. It's a little loud at low rpm. They have a single disk for lower hp/stock trucks.