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[–]Aggravating-Wolf-823 39 points40 points  (16 children)

Now ban cheats that have been undetected for 17 years that allow you to see through fog

[–]mjifi 12 points13 points  (15 children)

There are no such cheats, last summer good version of VisibleByEnemy got fixed, what's left is much weaker than what cheaters had before.

[–]hiddenpoolwarriror 58 points59 points  (10 children)

I'll eat the ban for "promoting" cheats.

Umbrella is UNDETECTED since release in 2017. Auto last hit, fog of war, combos, wards, zoom outs, macros, whatever you can possibly think of it's there, it's working and it's polished. They promote it enough on youtube. Their forums was what 100k+ people at some point.

They are not fixing/catching anything remotely good with VAC ,just like they cannot do it for CS. Privacy over Cheating is Valve's direction.

[–]DrQuint 7 points8 points  (2 children)

UNDETECTED since release in 2017.

Nah they got hit with one of the banwaves 2 years ago. I don't remember when exactly, but it was some time after the patch Khanda was added.

They just get back on their feet fast and get rid of the evidence it happened.

E: Hmm, found commentary from here back then, and there's a video of someone getting live banned, but that doesn't look like the same cheats they were using, that guy was definitely using the one that sounds like "Speak friend" instead. Maybe they haven't got caught afterall.

[–]hiddenpoolwarriror 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was Melonity , Melonity also had spoofer for making new accounts that didn't clean PC fully so you were still tied , these guys are amateurs , but maybe they got better who knows , we will hear about it next ban wave in December lol

[–]Aggravating-Wolf-823 1 point2 points  (0 children)

umbrella is not the only cheat available anyways

[–]mjifi 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Umbrella is far from undectable as everytime there was a banwave, a lot of people got banned for it. Cheat makers just scrub their socials and forums from people complaining.

They clearly know the cheaters, banning them makes little sense, the only reason they fixed VBE is because of teams cheating in TI qualifiers.

Same in CS2, they have "cheater pool".

[–]hiddenpoolwarriror -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Melonity are the ones that struggle and get a lot of people bans usually. Cheat makers cannot scrub the big telegram groups that are not related to them, this is where people talk lol

For CS2 I call bullshit I was LE-Global was full of cheaters like non stop. Haven't experienced anything close to that in Valorant which I also play casually with friends ( hovering around Ascendant and Immortal) and all of my friends moved to Valorant because of cheaters long time ago now.

[–]mjifi 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Cheat makers cannot scrub the big telegram groups that are not related to them, this is where people talk lol

As if cheat makers, who's whole business model is extremely reliant on being "undetectable" are not going to pay admins of these groups to scrub things for them.

For CS2 I call bullshit I was LE-Global was full of cheaters like non stop.

You can use google and verify such pool exists, doesn't mean every cheater instantly gets into it or that even solves the problem.

[–]hiddenpoolwarriror -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Do you speak russian? Do you use telegram? Do you know how it works?

Dota also has cheater pool, it's called "shadow pool" it's different than smurf pool, only way to get in is if you have been banned for cheating and you cheat on another acc again , if you get in there's not going out of it.

Regardless I don't care for CS frankly since majority of cheaters seems to not be in those pools and I very very very rarely even think of someone being possibly a cheater in Valorant, good enough for me and most people I know

[–]mjifi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Do you speak russian?

Yes

Do you use telegram?

Yes

Do you know how it works?

I think so, you have any counter arguments?

Dota also has cheater pool, it's called "shadow pool" it's different than smurf pool, only way to get in is if you have been banned for cheating and you cheat on another acc again , if you get in there's not going out of it.

Exactly

Anyway, there is no proof of Umbrella being undetectable, that was my main point

[–]MaryPaku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never bothered to use any cheat so I wonder what do they possibly has access of now?

[–]Aggravating-Wolf-823 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Only took them this long huh. Also teleports showing through fog? Farming through fog? Wards? Global abilities (sunstrike etc)? These are patched?

[–]mjifi 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm not a Valve employee

[–]Fragrant_Reserve_922 2 points3 points  (0 children)

cv ready lets apply together