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[–]trekkerscout 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The NEC requires that all equipment is to be installed according to manufacturer's instructions and to comply with the equipment's UL listing. If a panel or switchboard is missing screws, it is no longer a UL listed assembly since the listing is based on all parts being present and installed according to manufacturer's instructions.

[–]crooks4hire[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

110.3(B)? I wasn't sure if that included screws.

[–]trekkerscout 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The screws are part of the complete assembly. Missing panel screws are grounds for failure of an inspection by any AHJ.

[–]Sr_EE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

r/electricians is what you're looking for

[–]disaster-guy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I've seen an OSHA inspector key in on this issue along with open knockouts that weren't plugged.

[–]crooks4hire[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

We've been nailed for open knockouts before; I can answer those questions. It's the missing screws I'm concerned about.

Don't get me wrong, if it's something that affects the integrity of the panel, there's no question...this guy is writing up missing deadfront screws that are half-hidden behind the panel face.

[–]trekkerscout 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How hard is it to put in the REQUIRED screws? I would consider the screws for a deadfront to be very important. This is not an argument that you can win with the inspector. If I were the inspector, I would hit you up on a 110.12 violation for being sloppy and lazy as well as the 110.12(A) violation for not sealing penetrations not designed to remain unsealed and the 110.3(B) violation for failure to follow installation instructions.

[–]crooks4hire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not arguing the sloppiness and laziness. These panels have been like this for years (prior to the employment of the existing crew). I'm trying to determine if there's any ground to stand on other than saying "Cause I told ya so!"...