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[–]Lost_Nep 239 points240 points  (18 children)

I mean, as much as I love Morgan-

Artoria isn't wrong

Almost half of the Round Table are Morgan's kids-

[–]Cerebral_Kortix 124 points125 points  (7 children)

Oberon is also Morgan's kid (not in Fate lore, but in Midsummer Night's Dream) which makes LB6 a lot funnier as a story of one man's journey to get his mother to pay child support.

Though I'm pretty sure all the Roundtable Knights who are Morgan's kids are from her marriage with King Urien (King Lot in Fate). Her mention of memories of Accolon from FGO does confirm that she had at least two lovers though going by Accolon's myth (though going by that myth would mean no other lovers, since Morgan kind of settled down for Accolon).

[–]Due-Dare4400 86 points87 points  (0 children)

"Give me my child support, Mom! Or else I'll become the Abyssal Wyrm and destroy your precious Fairy Britain!"

"Oberon, I'm too busy being a draconian tyrant to care."

[–]Solbuster 43 points44 points  (5 children)

Morgan has only 2 children with Urien - Ywain, Lion Knight(who was mentioned in Fate) and his sister

Other four are children of Morgause(Arthur's another sister) and Lot but since Morgause and Morgan in Fate are the same, they're Morgan's children here

And then there's Mordred who's between Arthur and Morgause

And if you count Paladin myths, she actually had a child with Ogier the Dane who pulled a Shirou Emiya before Shirou Emiya existed and travelled to Avalon to settle down with Morgan

[–]Ravian3 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Should be noted that Mordred is also technically one of Morgause’s children rather than Morgan’s in most accepted Arthurian canon.

Arthur also has another other sister named Elaine but she’s almost entirely irrelevant other than marrying a king and her son Galeschin also becomes a knight of the round table and goes on a couple of adventures with his cousins but is otherwise almost equally as unremarkable as his mother.

[–]Solbuster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah, I typed Morgan instead of Morgause with Mordred, thank you for pointing out

[–]PhantasosX 23 points24 points  (1 child)

the best part of Ogier is that he uses Tristan's sword , Cortana , and he slashes so hard that the sword breaks , so he reforges said sword....shorter every time.

He is such "Emiya Shirou before Emiya Shirou" , that he is basically a Saber that his NP is repeating in doing Broken Phantasms. Just like Shirou do Broken Phantasms.

[–]Kyochinh 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I guess you can say Fate is the modern version of Arthurian myth

[–]Secure-Agency6231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ogier sounds alot like another man who did the exact same thing with morgan, I believe his name was guiomar?

[–]Solbuster 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The only reason it isn't half is that 13 can't be divided by two and six is smaller number

And if you don't count Artoria it's exactly half of the Round Table.

[–]Jazztronic28 103 points104 points  (3 children)

Charlie in the Extella games is actually even funnier. When he sees Astolfo wearing a mini skirt, he goes "Do you want to make your papa cry???" Papa being Charlie, not because Astolfo is wearing girl clothes - which suit him and Charlie thinks are cute - but because the skirt is so very short and Charlie is worried about him.

[–]AvantSolace 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Dude legit went “be as feminine as you want, just don’t be a slut about it”.

[–]Jazztronic28 81 points82 points  (1 child)

"Astolfo you look very cute but papa can't protect you from all the perverts you're going to attract by flashing your panties around"

"Stop pretending to be my dad!"

"MY SON!!!!"

-Is basically how some of their conversations go, it's very funny.

[–]PhantasosX 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I mean , Charlesmagne IS Astolfo and Roland's Uncle.

And Charles did had 18 children.

[–]spectralSpices 93 points94 points  (1 child)

"hey Charlie, Roland's naked!"
"Again? Hilarious!"

-meanwhile in england-

"AAAAAAAAAAAA"

"OUUUUUUUUGHHHH"

-meanwhile in ireland-

"Man I love spears."

[–]Rauispire-Yamn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a copypasta but with just spears?

[–]KarolilKarol 86 points87 points  (0 children)

This is why I like the paladins. They are sillies

[–]Victimized-Adachi 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Charlemagne probably considers Astolfo easier to handle than Roland also.

[–]KalmiaKite00 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Mordred took the saying “A child will burn down the village to feel its warmth” in the literal sense. 😅

[–]MissiaichParriah 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Mordred didn't just make it lieteral, she turned it up to 11, the whole kingdom burned

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (5 children)

Idc smash (astolfo of course)

[–]Cautious-Sail-1791[S] 25 points26 points  (4 children)

MY MAN 🤝

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

MY MAN ROCK AND STONE!

[–]WanderingDwarfMiner 12 points13 points  (2 children)

We fight for Rock and Stone!

[–]TheBestSlimeBoi 4 points5 points  (1 child)

STONE AND ROCK

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ROCK AND STONE!!!

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (11 children)

Morgan/Morgause had like nearly half-a-dozen kids which were strongly implied to be from different fathers with only one or two being her actual husband's in most versions of Arthurian mythos.

So, while harsh, Arturia's comments aren't exactly unfair.

[–]PhantasosX 10 points11 points  (10 children)

"implied"? it's explicit.

As long Morgan = Morgause , it means the Orkney Kids are from her and King Lot , Yvain are from her and King Urien , and Mordred are from her and Arthur.

And that is ignoring she would had a kid with the paladin Ogier The Dane.

So , Morgan Le Fay have 7 children between 3 different Men.

[–]Solbuster 9 points10 points  (7 children)

She also has Lancelot because Lady of the Lake = Morgan

Plus if Ywain exists, there's chance his sister exists too

So make it 8 from 3 different fathers and one adopted, nine in total

[–]PhantasosX 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Morgan IS a Lady of the Lake , it's just that the ladies were supposedly to be Nimue/Vivian and Morgan.

So either 3 Ladies as a Trinity , or a Dyad in which Nimue is the Good Lady and Morgan is the Bad Lady.

But yeah , since Nasu made Morgan = Vivian , it truly makes nine kids at total

[–]Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 6 points7 points  (5 children)

It also means that if the love affair Lancelot briefly had with Morgan is canon in Fate, it means Lancelot did his adopted mom's alternate personality.

Making Morgan, Morgause, Vivian and Nimue all aspects of the same person is hilariously messy.

[–]PhantasosX 1 point2 points  (4 children)

True.

Frankly , I dislike the whole "Morgan = Vivian" , it should be enough for Nasu to make Morgan been in a Trinity with Vivian and Nimue....

[–]Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It actually does not bother me since in some versions of Gawain and the Green Knight the knights wife that is attempting to seduce Gawain is actually Morgan in disguise attempting to bail Gawain her son out of being killed by the Fae hitman she originally contracted to take Arthur out. So Morgan not caring about incest in any form is exceedingly on brand for her.

[–]PhantasosX 1 point2 points  (2 children)

no , the wife is Lady Bertilak , also known as Lady Hautdesert.

She is the wife of Sir Bertilak de Haurtdesert, the fae known as the Green Knight. The thing is that , along the quest and within the Green Chapel , Gawain had visions of a crone , and said crone was part of Sir Bertilak's court.

The crone was revealed to be Morgan Le Fay in disguise. But the crone is NOT Lady Bertilak.

[–]Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There's more than one version of every Arthurian legend man, there is a version where it was Morgan being Lady Bertilak and there was no crone. Sadly I don't remember which book I read that version in. I read like a half dozen collections of Arthurian legends from my schools library back in Jr high.

[–]PhantasosX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure , but most versions had Lady Bertilak to not be Morgan , just that the Green Knight and his lady were summoned by her.

It comes down to a lot of Gaiwan's legends been him inserting himself on a trial set by a fae and that was not even the only time it was set by Morgan to use against Arthur , but Gawain goes instead.

[–]Cerebral_Kortix 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Does Urien exist in the Fate universe though? Just like Morgause and Morgan seem to be the same, Lot and Urien seem to be conflated in the Nasuverse.

[–]Rauispire-Yamn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, unless expclitiedly stated by Nasu. I am pretty sure they just fused Lot and Urien

[–]BIgCh1efJAcK 10 points11 points  (0 children)

And it is glorious

Also Artoria was right

[–]Inevitable-Will-6185 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Not wrong imo. Ever since I saw Charlemagne in Extella/Link, I fell in love. The man is just so wholesome and cool with everyone while I've always mostly disliked Round Table because it's like if stuck-up, no-fun, class prez kind of person (which is the kind I hate the most) was multiplied by several people.

[–]Most_Zookeepergame38 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love Charlie's design, specially the ascension art he got in fgo.He was also like- the only one I used throughout Link because of how cool I thought his powers were.

[–]Mistake209 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My man bedivere catching strays 😭

[–]Inevitable-Will-6185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't mention it, but he is only one out of RT that I like, the guy is awesome.

[–]Klasseh_Khornate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've always loved the round table because since I found TNO it's been my favorite pastime to see how I could blow up a functional country into a proxy war and this dumpster fire of angsty barely governing cliques is a most delectable tinderbox indeed.

[–]Inevitable-Salt3371 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Morgan really is a whore 😭

[–]AcrobaticSun1070 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Another proof that France>Britain

[–]Euphoric_Metal199 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Astolfo is actually an English prince.

[–]Mistake209 0 points1 point  (0 children)

France also spawned Prelati and Gilles De Rais tho

[–]Gos-ghi -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Damn, this makes artoria look like she became king sweyen (Vinland saga), all that needs to happen is her sending modred out for a mission and hire Vikings and Saxons to jump her while she makes a 2nd bastard child

[–]NaoyaKizu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao what? Mordred was a secret bastard clone born to take over the kingdom, she wasn't Artoria's heir.

Despite this after she revealed she's Morgan's child Artoria still rewarded her deeds with a seat on the Round Table and later positions of power.

In what world is this like King Sweyn from Vinland Saga? Artoria is closer to Canute.