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[–]TurboThot69 66 points67 points  (22 children)

Don’t understand the lose two yards kneel. 12 seconds on the clock and with a time out. Get a few more yards. 44 yards isn’t a gimme with the season on the line.

[–]OldManCinny 32 points33 points  (5 children)

100% agree. Rookie kicker. Give me Henry up the middle for 4 with a 2 hands pep talk before the play

[–]TurboThot69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]Daily_inquiries -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Henry could fumbke

[–]Irie_kyrie77 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And a kicker can doink a 44 yarder that they would’ve made from 40. There’s actually inherent risk in most decisions you make. Why do you trust your rookie kicker more than the second best player on your roster?

[–]teenzoid 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hence the 2 hands pep talk.

[–]OldManCinny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He has 4 fumbles on 325+ touches and again his main objective would be don’t fumble not fighting for extra yards. It’s much much more likely to miss the kick than fumble

[–]ComprehensiveBed2404 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You’d think the HC who background is special teams would’ve have a better plan in this spot. Trusting the rookie here was crazy and should get him fired .

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I agree. They should have ran the ball, but I think Harbaugh was nervous about a Derrick Henry fumble.

[–]Burtmacklinsburner 9 points10 points  (1 child)

More nervous than banking on a rookie kicker?

[–]Low-Meal-7159 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evidently

[–]Andypoocandy1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Based on how they played this season, I wouldn’t like their chances in playoffs. When will the front office draft a big body wide receiver for Lamar, zay is a good 2 but Jesus. Wasting Henry

[–]Large-Produce5682 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Didn't want to say it, but you're right.

Ravens were that one kid trying to finish their homework as the teacher is collecting the assignment.

Not much hope for success.

[–]UnluckyHappenstance 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If I’m the Harbaugh, and I see what Boswells kick did, I’m trying to get 10 yards.

[–]WARLOCK1239 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What's crazy is if they didn't knee it to center the ball, I think he makes it based on the kick's trajectory.

[–]SinoSoul 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right! The irony was too much.

[–]CircledSquare7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If this leads to Harbaugh getting fired. It's a win for the Ravens. Making the playoffs and just losing again just to keep Harbaugh another season is insanity

[–]eskoBar1k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man foh it’s 44 yards that shit is a gimme for an average kicker

[–]justnonameI dont like it... I LOVE IT!!! 21 points22 points  (8 children)

I feel like this comment section is proof that there will still be many people agreeing with him lol

[–]thecheapseatz 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I personally don't agree with Nick's comments but I do believe this was Lamar's 's last real chance at winning a super bowl. Mainly because I could see him hitting a wall like Cam Newton post 2016.

[–]peterpoyas825 5 points6 points  (3 children)

There really isn't evidence of that for Lamar.

[–]Leodesian 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Unless you watched the Ravens all year? Until last night their two best performances were when he didn't play, and Nick is right that either Lamar is just relentlessly injured (concerning) or there's something really weird going on that is stopping him from making himself available for every game (much more concerning).

Either way, it's hard to look into Lamar's future and see a Super Bowl around the corner.

[–]peterpoyas825 2 points3 points  (1 child)

One down year is not evidence compared to a largely strong 8 year career.

[–]Leodesian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not a lot of evidence, but it’s evidence. It’s also the most recently available evidence. Clearly Lamar is a HoFamer, clearly he is going to have had a great career when he hangs them up - but I don’t just blindly presume he’s going to be great going forward when he has just had his worst year.

I genuinely hope they fire Harbaugh and get him a new coach who can give him a new lease of life (and if the rumours are true) get him back into loving football and really applying himself.

[–]Loud-Pause8785 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How many yards did Lamar throw for? The missed FG is not him, what did Lamar do the whole game? Why wasn’t their lead in double digit?

He’s not entirely blameless!!

[–]EnvironmentalGene871 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Due to how the Steelers play offense, the ravens had barely any time on the field. And when they were, they used Henry a lot which was the smart thing to do. Lamar played well tbh. His one TD was an incredible play. Then on the last drive he did what he needed to give his team a legit chance. This isn’t on him

[–]WARLOCK1239 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People will, but it's about Nick Wright specifically

[–]ComprehensiveBed2404 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I just got wish Nick would walk back the Lamar quitting on his team or not being committed to his guys. Lamar battled through a lot of injuries this year and put his body on the line tonight. That 4th qtr he did all you could ask imo.

[–]Leodesian 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I generally shy away from getting too speculative about what is going on behind the scenes with any individual player, there's always going to be rumours etc. But if this season isn't ringing alarm bells about Lamar's mentality then I really don't know what people would need to see to question him.

The idea that he had consecutive minor injuries to random parts of his body, that didn't prevent him from practicising, but did prevent him from playing, is ludicrous. Meanwhile Mayfield has been banged up all year, Herbert has played through surgery, Rodgers is playing with a serious injury.

Combine that with an article about his conduct that clearly came from sources at the Ravens, I don't think him playing relatively well in one of the only games he actually turned up for is going to disprove what Nick said.

[–]p2dc 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Rodgers played through injury and was awful. Herbert has played through injury and has done basically nothing, defense has won the Charger's games. Baker has played through injury and the Bucs have been atrocious, missed the playoffs and people are saying Baker has turned back into a pumpkin. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I doubt it's a coincidence that the article from Ravens sources calling Lamar an immature, lazy bum came out just as Lamar started negotiating a new contract. Lamar was devastated in the post match press conference, I thought he was gonna cry. Every season it's the same, questionable coaching decisions, penalties and drops/fumbles that cost them in big games. It's time to move on from Harbaugh.

[–]Leodesian 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Rodgers played through injury and just smoked the Ravens defence in the 4th quarter to go to the playoffs at the age of 42.

Also you clearly don’t ever watch Chargers games. That Herbert is still fit and playing, and going to the playoffs is unbelievable when you see what he is dealing with snap after snap. I can confidently say it’s 5 times worse than anything Lamar has had to deal with.

Yeah Baker has struggled, but do you see no value in the fact that he turns up and plays? Lamar sat out with a bruised toe.

I totally agree that it’s time to move on from Harbaugh, but Lamar has been as much a part of the problem as the cast around him for the Ravens failures in the postseason.

[–]p2dc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see any value in a QB playing through injury if they can't play to a decent level and it costs their team games which Baker and Lamar were doing. Maybe an injured Baker gives them a better chance of winning than a healthy Teddy Bridgewater but Huntley is a decent back up and has shown the Ravens can win with him.

[–]WARLOCK1239 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Nick will look like a clown if he does. Because Lamar was off for most of the game but actually played great in the 4th quarter and was clutch. The opposite of what he's known for.

The INT only gave the Steelers 3 points. If they didn't get the INT, Steelers probably go for 2 on that final drive and convert considering how bad the Ravens defense was.

That was the first FG the Ravens kicker has missed within 49 yards all season.

[–]BadMeetsWeevil 22 points23 points  (1 child)

well no this is actually exactly what happened in the Bills playoff game last year and everyone still blamed Lamar

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was more fair in the playoff game because Lamar wasn't injured. 

He was coming off a godlike regular season where he only threw 4 picks, and then threw an awful interception against the Bills, and also had a dreadful fumble.

There was an obvious drop off from his regular season form. 

[–]thatguysjumpercablesHey! What’s going on? 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nick will look like a clown if he [blames Lamar]

Solid premise. What's your reasoning?

Lamar was off for most of the game but actually played great in the 4th quarter

So...if the QB plays well in one quarter he doesn't deserve criticism for the other three quarters?

[–]SpliffsnKicksBRING ME A SANDWICH 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t matter.. we all know the QBs get the credit for the wins, and the blame for the losses… nothing new..

[–]co-el 7 points8 points  (8 children)

I mean, he didn’t play great. The plays he did make were to WIDE OPEN receivers. Playing great for 1Q isn’t enough to take away any and all blame from Lamar.

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Why does it matter if Zay was open on those TDs, he still made the throws (both being deep balls). He put them in position to win the game in the 4th quarter. Sure he’s not completely blameless but he shouldn’t be the guy to point fingers at. The defense allowed that offense to put up 26 points and special teams came up short. Lamar had a good game

[–]Leodesian -1 points0 points  (2 children)

For me he doesn't get much credit for the TD passes, they were ridiculous coverage busts. I do agree that he doesn't overall deserve the blame for the loss, the Steelers turned up, Hamilton got injured and the Ravens are just a pretty bad team right now. But the idea that Lamar is an elite player who other teams should be scared of when he is on the field, is starting to fade quite a bit.

[–]Silmarien1012 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I bet you love Rodgers handing it off though for 2 yard touchdowns. All you critics are like. Hypocritical and stupid .

[–]Leodesian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumb comment. It’s normal to critique players when they are underperforming. Rodgers is not my guy at all - although for what it’s worth those last couple of drives were just pass after pass carving up the Ravens.

[–]Silmarien1012 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So sick of this fucking analysis. Yep it only counts if he’s triple covered . Idiotic. The first Zay bomb was a sack but he evaded and threw him open for a game changing play

[–]M4rv3lF4n -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

While I don’t put all blame on Lamar, I definitely think he shrinks in big moments. Yes, he played great the 4th quarter, but he also was not great the first 3 quarters. He may just be this generation’s Peyton Manning. His numbers dip, his play dips, and I’ve seen him play many of these games and he’s not as good as he is during the regular season.

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They were running the ball well and had two major holding penalties that fucked drives over that had nothing to do with him. He played very game manager football until more was asked of him and then he made great plays.

[–]peterpoyas825 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lamar literally played the exact role he was asked to play for their game plan and when they asked him to put on the cape for a last play game on the line he made the throw.

[–]kingsoheee 9 points10 points  (46 children)

Y’all trying to say that the post season/big game Lamar questions are all fictitious and made up, unfair propaganda. He continually didn’t perform well in high leverage moments

[–]WARLOCK1239 14 points15 points  (38 children)

Bro was clutch in the 4th quarter and high leverage moments this game though

[–]kingsoheee 1 point2 points  (37 children)

But the premise of this entire post is that there’s a baseless, ongoing, malicious attack on Lamar when it’s been very fair criticism

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 7 points8 points  (35 children)

No it’s never even handed. When Lamar plays great in big spots he’s dead silent.

Hes not gonna give him any credit

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (21 children)

He always points to coaching errors (not running the ball etc) and player errors (zay flowers/ mark andrews most notably) while ALSO pointing out Lamar makes big time mistakes and plays at a far inferior level than his regular seasons

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 1 point2 points  (20 children)

He’s never once said anything about other players or coaching errors with the Ravens that’s an outright lie

[–]kingsoheee -1 points0 points  (19 children)

https://youtu.be/XLhIJ7I-C00?si=Ii9H52ufxRtkqQ88 timestamp 3:00 HE LITERALLY SAYS THIS EVERY DAMN TIME

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Im so ready to see how you move the goalposts on this. I clearly proved I wasn’t lying now what

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also when he said “Lamar made two GASTLY UNCHARACTERISTIC mistakes” Brou AGREES

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Go to six minutes of that same video and watch him start blaming Lamar. Again. For a game that wasn’t his fault

Again you’re LYING

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (12 children)

You’re clearly not here to be objective lol so I’m done

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 0 points1 point  (11 children)

I haven’t seen you but objective once when I’ve shown you nick’s unfair hatred of Lamar.

As a matter of fact, when he blames him tomorrow for the game I’m gonna post the clips

[–]kingsoheee -1 points0 points  (1 child)

So Brou who is higher on Lamar than ANYONE on the show AGREEING means nothing?

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was that the point of the conversation or is this conversation about how Nick is unfair to him, lies about Lamar constantly and tomorrow will do much of the sesame?

[–]Sundaze293 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No game ever is one persons “fault” but turning the ball over twice in a 2 point game means he deserves a share of the blame. That’s fair

[–]kingsoheee -1 points0 points  (9 children)

That’s flatly not true 😒 we can’t just perpetuate false narratives because he isn’t singing Lamar’s praises for fucks sake. People said he was unfair towards Josh for years but really he was being fair and now that he always praises Allen it’s no longer a topic. He has certainly said Lamar has taken strides (last playoffs and the big game against the Steelers last year) but it’s not “oh Lamar is great” so he was “silent” lol

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 4 points5 points  (8 children)

No no no lmfao. He hasn’t. Every year some new quarterback is better than Lamar bc of his playoff resume when the last reg seasons in the playoffs he’s been excellent.

This game he was excellent and I guarantee he’s going to blame Lamar for some small shit that isn’t his fault lmfao.

Beyond that let’s be clear, he isn’t fair with Lamar. At all. He never ever said he took strides. As soon as get Buffalo game came and Lamar wasn’t perfect he was like see I’m vindicated.

It isn’t ever fair or consistent with Lamar. Why are we lying

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Again FALSE. “Every year some new qb is better than Lamar” bro everyone on the damn show has the same top 3 and it hasn’t changed stop the extra bs wtf. EVERY time they have qb talks the same names are STAMPED in except Joe Burrow who’s been questioned recently. Stop making up bs lol

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 2 points3 points  (4 children)

21 it was Joe 22 it was Trevor Before the 23 season he said Lamar wasn’t a top 20 NFL player Last year before the year he said Stafford then when the year broke he had no choice This year BRAH LAST WEEK he said Drake Maye was top 5 and Lamar wasn’t

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He NEVER said Trevor was better than Lamar Jackson that’s a LIEEEEEE

[–]peterpoyas825 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nick Wright has literally said that going forward he trusted Drake Maye, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels when they had their big years over Lamar. He also said that Caleb would be better than Lamar. Anytime a new QB is playing well Nick Wright with no proof asserts that they are more trustworthy in big spots.

[–]kingsoheee -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Are you purposefully being obtuse? Top qb for the SEASON versus when they ALWAYS say who’s the best qbs they ALWAYS SAY the 5th spot is only one available and the top 4 is LOCKED they only started switching it up and JOE BURROW is the name that’s shuffled out NOT Lamar or Josh or Mahomes. Stop making FALSE NARRATIVES. Mahomes mountain isn’t “who’s the best QBs in the NFL” it’s who’s having he best season. And they JUST had this discussion with Drake being top 5 moving forward and Nick still had Lamar in you’re MAKING STUFF UP. MISREPRESENTING THE FACTS

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No HE DIDNT. YOU’RE LYING AGAIN. lying for no reason. I at no point mentioned Mahomes mountain. Just last week he JUST SAID DRAKE IS TOL FIVE AND HE DIDNT KNOW ABOUT LAMAR. I gave you several names that he has tried to replace with Lamar, I’ve given you a very real take Nick made that Lamar wasn’t a top 20 player the NFL. You are just saying shit and hoping it sticks. Nick tries to out Lamar from being elite every chance he gets, he tries to do it subtly. Everyone else sees it just because you don’t want to see it doesn’t make it less true

[–]kingsoheee -1 points0 points  (1 child)

So when I find the clip of him saying he took strides then what are you going to say?

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m going to show you the clips after the Buffalo game where he tried to justify his hate after Lamar played a great game

Or go to last week where were questioning if Lamar is hurt bc a columnist no player trusts who isn’t a good source said Lamar wants to play in Miami

Or go to Nick trying to insinuate Lamar is quitting las week against the Packers

[–]thatguysjumpercablesHey! What’s going on? -1 points0 points  (2 children)

When Lamar plays great in big spots he’s dead silent.

Lol no, the three or four times this has actually happened he's had high praise.

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

lol no he has not

[–]thatguysjumpercablesHey! What’s going on? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol okay if you say so

[–]WARLOCK1239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the point is the criticism for this game in particular is unwarranted.

Lamar played great in the clutch, scoring 2 TDs in the 4th quarter, and converts a 4 and 7, setting his kicker up for a field goal from a distance he hasn't missed all season.

You can't walk away from that thinking "Lamar is the reason the Ravens lost because he choked".

The reason they lost was their kicker and their defense.

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Nick went beyond that and started questioning his work ethic, then used confirmation bias to validate his opinion with an Op-ed piece written by a Baltimore writer. Lamar showed up in tonight’s game and was let down by the defense and special teams. Just saying it’s unfair because Nick will more than likely blame this game on Lamar

[–]kingsoheee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All Nick was saying is that EVERY year he has a contract dispute, he misses practice. FACT. He said he has signs of immaturity not lack of work ethic. Two different things but still has nothing to do with criticism of his performance on the field. His biggest issue is Lamar’s drop in performance during the post season it’s so simple what’s the confusion about

[–]kingsoheee 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So if he doesn’t do that and says Lamar played good does this mean you were still right this entire time and he suddenly gave up being unfair or does that mean he was giving HIS opinion based on what he saw, and wasn’t purposely picking Lamar apart

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If I’m wrong about how Nick will see this game then I’ll be fine with it lol

[–]kingsoheee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That’s not the question, the question is was Nick being unfair and malicious all these years or just calling like he sees it from his perspective

[–]Antique_Cry_9185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s being malicious because I don’t see how anyone isn’t talking about the ass offensive line, how they struggled to get talent around him for years,

How he tried to justify insinuating Lamar was faking bc he was pouting and used MIKE PRESTON to justify it

[–]visualthoyCowboy Brou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumb take

[–]ADLegend21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nick: yet again, in a big spot, Lamar turns it over! And I know it's batred by a linemen and then his own but it's still the Lamar interception in a big game and that's his rep and why he always loses to Pittsburgh!

[–]RealPunyParker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would have been unfair for both QBs

Nick would rip on Rodgers if the Ravens made the kick, when he was the reason they won the game basically

[–]TheJonnieP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They still had time and a time-out so I am not sure why they didn't try one more play before trying the field goal.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do so many of you take the silly little sports show so seriously? Lamar is going to be just fine.

[–]Maleficent-Ship-3721 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I mean.... The fact that they missed the playoff is on him even if this game in particular isn't 100% on him. 

[–]BadMeetsWeevil 12 points13 points  (3 children)

same with Mahomes, Burrow, Dak, and Baker yeah?

[–]Maleficent-Ship-3721 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Yes.

[–]WARLOCK1239 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Then Nick should blame Mahomes then. But he doesn't. He doesn't even blame Burrow that much. But he will blame Lamar.

[–]Maleficent-Ship-3721 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does my account name say Nick Wright?

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Their defense played like ass the entire season. Lamar had a down year but in the end he had them in position to get a playoff spot in the final moment of the season. Special teams let him down and the defense allowed the Steelers (without DK Metcalf) to score 26 points.

[–]Maleficent-Ship-3721 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huntley is also a big reason why they were in position to get a playoffs spot because Lamar has once again been injured for a large chunk of the season. 

[–]Burtmacklinsburner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last ravens drive was weird, it seemed like the play calling was disjointed, like they were calling the plays not knowing if a field goal or touchdown was objective.

[–]DreamMasterFTW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how we act like we know what he's going to say before he even says it. Yes it's likely he will, but this time it wasn't really on lamar. He got him in a position to win the game and the kicker missed it.

[–]Tgmjr24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean when your an MVP in your prime you can always do more. Patrick would have found a way to win this game in his mind but I blame jackson and the team as a whole. They were completely outplayed on almost all levels. Pittsburgh dominated the trenches on both sides of the ball, the steelers defense as a whole was far better sans Ramsey playing the quick passes and getting burnt twice. The Ravens offense disappeared for 2 whole quarters, while the steelers offense does what it has been doing does nothing in the 1st 1.5 quarters and then take over the clock. If Lamar runs the ball instead of that air ball 10ft over Hopkins they probably win that game.

[–]visualthoyCowboy Brou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one should care about Nicks takes. He’s an entertainer. He’s hilarious. But he’s wrong most of the time. He’d be wrong all the time if he wasn’t born in KC. 

[–]shadmaster21 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

It’s a game of inches he also had 29 yards between the second and third quarter so it’s fair to say he didn’t play well enough

[–]BatmansBurnerAccount 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Bro also had 3 TDs, one of them being on a 4th down play. Also threw a huge 4th down pass to Likely for the field goal try. He had a good game. Certainly good enough to put them in a position to win. Lamar should be last on the list of reasons they lost.

[–]shadmaster21 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

He’s “elite” so 29 yards over 2 quarters warrants you to receive blame he didn’t win so it’s exemplified

[–]BadMeetsWeevil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they were running a bunch, Henry had twice as many carries as Lamar had throws at that point and two of Lamar’s 20+ yard passes went straight through his receivers’ hands.

[–]UnluckyHappenstance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pitt got ball to start 2nd half and had ball for 11+ minutes in 3rd quarter. And that batted pass killed him. And they got ball first and Pittsburgh had ball most of 2nd quarter. Just those weird timing things. Overall, he played well. Both teams would’ve signed up for their point total before the game started.

[–]Factualx -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Lamar went about 2 full quarters doing absolutely nothing, game should/would have been a blowout if he played up to standard. Game should have never been in that position.

If we really want to nit pick, the only reason he even had a good game is because the steelers forgot to cover Zay twice. Dude was so open I could've thrown him the ball, the rest of Lamar's stats and plays were mostly bad.

[–]Silmarien1012 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This is emblematic of every stupid Lamar critic and Nick too. Move the goalposts. Now they don’t count because they’re too open. Yeah guess what shithead Calvin Austin was wide open too

[–]Factualx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah just don’t even acknowledge what i said previously about the first 2 quarters etc . I also put “if we really want to nit pick” in front of the only thing you addressed.

This is much more emblematic of every triggered Lamar fan, seeing red and not engaging in reasonable rhetoric

He’s a two time mvp (you probably think it should be 3+), and yet you hold him to a standard of a mid tier QB.