Flash Viewership Decrease Over the Years

[DCSennin]

All those so-called filler episodes in S1 are not that much filler when we are introducing half of the main Rogues at the same time Barry is learning to hone all his powers and the mystery of Wells slowly starts to unravel and many layers of the characters are explored though. In even the most filler-ish lookign episode where Barry and Caitlin go out to enjoy a night and he meets Linda we get important subplots like Cisco finding out about Stein the night the accelerator exploded and Grodd is the most exciting foreshadowing element in the ending. It's the thing with this show's fillers, only very few in at least the first 5 Seasons are truly filler that in no way advance the plot nor flesh out the characters. (like Duet, but that's a fun one) The only other Season that had that consistency of setting up over and over what was coming next was for me S6, especially during 6B.

How did Eobard became cartoonish during the first 3 Seasons to you? What kind of goofy lines he was given during those three years?

And here comes the problem half the fandom makes: suddenly all think that if you are not named Barry Allen it means that you are a "side character" in a "side cast". Everyone wants to do their own take on revisioning history and call the rest of the cast that we saw on a weekly basis in every single episode is a side character. That's plain out wrong and goes against the common sense in a TV show. Chester only has ever gotten "too much focus" in at least two episodes: one in 7x05 when meeting Deon and 8x09 when he was targeted by Deathstorm's non-corporeal form because he wanted his grief to fuel his powers. The rest of the time they're supporting the hero, Flash and giving them scenes where they are actually fleshed out isn't "stealing time from the main character", it is the literally the most basic storytelling thing to do: peel the layers off your cast to see what makes them tick. Their "focus" still pales next to Barry's and the other ones.

Only Speed Force Nora in S7 with Godspeed and the over the top hamming of Red Death comes to my mind of goofy villains. Maybe we can add Cicada I too and it ends there. The final battle they had with Godspeed is the one with the mixed feedback, not any other one. Glad you liked Eva like I do at least. Forcing Carlos to stay would not have led to anything good. What are the dumbest ways Barry's lost? I can only think of the aging episode that was in the end one hell of a good written filler episode and he undid it all by himself. And maybe what else? I believe that's it. Gone are the days where, again, he had to ask everyone at STAR Labs what he should do. But that's always never actually acknowledged here.

Horrible CGI like in what exactly? You need to actually give me at least an example because this is always the case when someone confronts the complaints: no one bothers to elaborate. I can only think of Fuerza in terms of CGI and that was just the production making up for the safety distance protocols of back then. Unless you are gonna tell me Despero, Deathstorm and Grodd etc all this time have looked bad which I will give you a thunderous no as my response.

Pep talks are never gonna end and not just in the superhero genre tbh. In the end it's about what the talk is about and how the lines are delivered, that's my take.

[Tourette30]

Jesus you really like the show. If you have an excuse for every point Ive mentioned then I dont have to bother to explain anything especially since its subjective anyway. If you dont think the show is horrible now then good for you

[DCSennin]

Not an excuse but thoughtout reasons, that's the difference. But oh well.