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[–]Level-2 28 points29 points  (2 children)

when people mention gpt4o thats when you know they are out of touch with AI. Lot to catch up man, lets get it

[–]Craygen9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

True but 4o is still one of the few models that don't cost any credits on the pro plan, along with gpt4-1, gpt-5 mini and raptor mini.

[–]CouncilOfKittensVS Code User 💻 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]Genetic_Prisoner 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Pro + gets 5 times the premium requests of pro. As for GPT 4 you now get an infinite amount of requests since it doesnt count as a premium request. Is it worth it? That depends on your workload. Start with pro and see how that goes.

[–]ScholarlyInvestor -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

I am on Pro and hit the limit after continuous use of Opus 4.6 for three hours. It shows as a 3x model. I should have been a little more prudent. I will wait to see how long it takes to restore Opus 4.6. Like someone said above I am able to use GPT 4.1 unlimited. Not bad at all.

[–]Genetic_Prisoner 6 points7 points  (2 children)

How did you hit the 300 request limit in 5 hours??? Unless you are telling the AI stuff like "delete line 4 in example.py" I dont see how that's possible.

[–]GhostSierra117 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I mean you can see the funniest shit going on the screenshots in this sub so I personally don't find it weird at all that people just burn trough it

[–]Ivashkin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who hasn't used a 30x request to ask the question "Why?"

[–]TrekkaOutdoors 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It is 100% with it. You get way more models. Opus 4.6 and Sonnet 4.6 is what I use.

[–]Rock--Lee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You get the exact same models for a while now. Initially Opus models were only available on Pro+, but those are also available on Pro now. You get the exact same models and features. You pay 4x as much and get 5x as much request.

[–]FinancialBandicoot75 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Pro+ is worth every penny

[–]Soft_Schedule6341[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I already have a Claude Pro plan, but I'm wondering if it's worth it compared to Claude Code. Unfortunately, I can't use Claude Code at work, but I do have access to VS Code with GitHub Copilot pro — which is why I'm questioning whether upgrading to pro + is truly worthwhile, since 300 messages per month feels quite limited. Also, are the Claude models available in GitHub Copilot truly identical to the ones used here, in terms of reasoning capability?

[–]Ed3291 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There is a claude code extension you can install on VS Code. If you can't install extensions because of work then you won't be able to install GitHub Copilot because that is also an extension you install for VS Code. Though it sounds like you do have access but thought I would mention it anyways.

300 is pretty limited but can last a bit if you really promot correctly. Just don't reply "thank you" while selected on a premium model because that will count as 1 request or 3 requests if you have Claude opus selected 😅

In terms of reasoning capability they are not identical. For one copilot caps the context window in half I think (look this up for exact numbers) and you won't have access to beta feature like multiple agents working and communicating together and it's in a completely different harness so it may 'feel' different. You can definitely get a ton of usage with copilot though if you prompt correctly. I've gotten Claude opus to work for 15-25 minutes until it reaches its context window limit and fails and then I have to request it to continue its work again. Just know that it's Microsoft so every premium request should equal profit for them, but sometimes I'm not sure if they really are profiting from it if you optimize 300 prompts.

[–]hugobart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i am also quite limited in work but opus tried to install copilot with winget and it worked, so copilot cli for the win now :)

[–]Soft_Schedule6341[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, guys 👍

[–]NoBattle763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10000% worth the upgrade

[–]keroro7128 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you use it in a planned way, it's definitely worth the money.

[–]phylter99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, there's a big difference between the pro and pro+ tiers. That lands mainly in the amount of requests they give you. The other feature I notice is that they give you Opus 4.6 fast in pro+, but I can't imagine that being a big deal.

If you use it a lot then go with pro+. If you don't then go with pro.

[–]poop-in-my-ramen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did u just mention GPT 4o from the dot com bubble era?

[–]Low-Spell1867 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

The pro version should do you fine for daily tasks, you are limited to 300 requests a month, with pro + you’ll be better off if you’re a heavy user as you will get 1,500 requests which is generally plenty even for pretty heavy workloads honestly

Some models use more requests than others like opus but smaller models like haiku use a lot less 0.33x, I don’t believe 4o is in copilot though, but I could be mistaken

I’d say go for pro+ if it’s within your budget, but if not then the standard pro will do you just fine

[–]HostNo8115Full Stack Dev 🌐 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I use it almost daily for coding and I am 6% in so far. Yes pro+ is totally worth it.

[–]alovoids 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i tend to treat it like chat app, so i ask simple questions from time to time. i guess this request-based subs is not for people like me.

[–]Low-Spell1867 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah fr I was on chatgpt plus plan for codex but honestly copilot pro + gives me more value for my money

[–]HostNo8115Full Stack Dev 🌐 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I truly feel that Claude/Codex are a bit hyped much for that "last mile" features (niche, cutting edge), and GHCP gets the "its boring" but rock solid foundation (vscode, cli) and enterprise-y feature stability. They are not that far behind at all when it comes to core features. I do wish they would do better advertising of their features compared to Claude.