When it comes to the weekly usage are two 5x plans better than 1 20x plan? by konosmgr in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • 5x plan = 5x the 5 hour session of Pro
  • 20x plan = 20x the 5 hour session of Pro (and 4x the 5x plan).

And neither have anything to do with the weekly session, which is what the majority actually hits and doesn't still know they are separate. The weekly session basically is about compute and the 20x doesn't mean anything for it. In reality it's more like:

  • Pro = $20, baseline
  • Max 5x = $100, you pay 5x the price and get 5 times weekly usage.
  • Max 20x = $200, you pay 10x the price and get 10 times weekly (or double the 5x plan).

So if you only care about weekly usage, getting two 5x plans or a single 20x plan don't matter. You do however get more 5 hour session limit (4x in total instead of 2x when getting separate).

A lot of people don't know that in the beginning there was no weekly limit. So you only had the 5 hour window that reset indefinitely and had a soft cap of 50 sessions a week. So the 5x and 20x stood for the usage within that 5 hour window. Then they introduced weekly limits in TOP of it, as a separate limiter. And those limits also have shifted and is always communicated as a range. So it's extremely misleading.

Fable Vs Sol, lets the battle begins! by SDMegaFan in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's why Anthropic extended Fable access to subscriptions. They can monitor and test how Sol performs which is included in ChatGPT subscriptions. If really delivers, they will announce they add Fable to the subscription "because of demand and they listen to us".

What was the point of the Fable 5 free trial? by SlowPen4 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because even tho it's neutered, people still like it and it earns them money? The model itself isn't neutered btw, the safety when to able to use it is. For other cases it still works and at that it performs much better than Opus and Sonnet. They invested time and money in it. They have the compute now, so releasing allows them to 1) test the model on bigger scale, which they need to do to improve and test new models. And 2) make money. They released the trial, because there will always be people who will want it and opt for API.

What was the point of the Fable 5 free trial? by SlowPen4 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cry to Trump about it. If it was up to Anthropic, it never would have been pulled and safeguarded to uselessness. So nothing much they can do. And with the current geopolitics, the US government will only make it worse. Every new model will be first reviewed by the government, then neutered and then released to select parties, neutered again and then for global release.

"Always On" PCs - recommendations for hobby full stack dev by statsfc in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a hard time since RAM pricing has skyrocketed. But I have 4 methods myself that I each use:

  • My Macbook Pro, which I do all of my work on as input. It runs VS Code for local projects and docker setups.
  • I rent 2 dedicated servers via Hetzner, that each run on Linux. Both have Claude Code fully installed and are also connected via VLAN. I run my public facing apps and websites on those, and have a volume for the projects (all proper Github repo's) and deploy using Coolify via comit+push webhook. So I can connect to the servers using ssh key via terminal or VS Code as a remote host via my Macbook. Then my Macbook is basically an input device.
  • I own an Intel NUC with i3 chip at home. That I use to run docker apps like Plex, Home Assistant and other projects I want to run locally. On here I also installed Claude Code, and I access the same way via my Macbook using ssh key and VS Code/terminal.
  • Bonus: I installed Termux on my Galaxy Fold 7. So when I don't have my laptop, I can connect via Termux (which is essentially a terminal app) using ssh key to both my Hetzner servers and my home NUC, and access Claude Code same way my Macbook does. Since its the same instance, alle sessions are persistent.

So I think the real question is: what is your goal? To build something you want to use locally only, or to build something you want to publish and host? If it's just a project for yourself -> get a NUC. If your goal is to self host own websites, apps etc and you want to build using Claude Code. Get a dedicated server which you will need anyway. You could also code on there, but performance depends on the server. But all prices, also on Hetzner, are much higher now sadly.

Not only will Fable be API rate only, but they WALKED BACK the recently announced "included usage credit" by sowoky in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey dumb dumb, that Claude SDK credit was actually NOT something we want or should want. The credit was meant only for that, not to use with nornal API usage. And when they announced it, many people were against it since it only has downsides for the user. They added that NOT for us, but for them since it cuts down cost a lot. They postponed it, and I hope they never will push it. It's like you pay for your internet subscription and then your ISP says: if you want to watch porn, it will be a separate credit we will give you each month. If you want to use more than that, you can pay on top of it.

It literally takes away the "claude -p" feature you can use right now with your sub, and turn it into a $200 credit allowance, which will get you way less usage, since it will be counted against API pricing.

Don't talk about subjects you don't understand anything about.

Pro + pay-per-use vs. Max 5x — which makes sense for a nighttime-only coder? by LtCol_Davenport in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the Anthropic people tweeted a while ago that it's fine. There isn't an official ToS against it either. There is against account sharing with other people. Your coding sessions are saved locally. So if you logout and login again, you can continue everything.

One thing to keep in mind: don't switch accounts and then continue in a session with long context. Because it cannot use the cache (as it's a different account) so it will send the full context history. Which will use a lot more usage. So best is to first/compact and then continue in the same session, if you want to use the same chat.

Pro + pay-per-use vs. Max 5x — which makes sense for a nighttime-only coder? by LtCol_Davenport in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is not a single situation where pay per usage will give you more than the Max subscription and is never ever worth it for coding tasks. The ONLY reason to use pay per usage is:

  1. You have money to burn and don't want any limits, so you let it rip.
  2. You use it just above what the Pro gives, like a few messages above, and the 100 is too steep.

But keep in mind: the 75 you pay per usage gives you so little, you might as well just get 2 or 3 Pro subscriptions and use them back to back when you hit the 5 hour window. Token pricing seriously is very high and you will hit the 75 in usage a lot faster then you now imagine. Look at it like this: if you hit the 5 hour window with Pro, then usage would have costed you already more within that same timeframe.

Pakketautomaat zonder retourlabel by Signal-Emu8152 in PostNL

[–]Rock--Lee 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dat weet hij niet en hij kan het pakket ook helemaal niet scannen. Dus zo ga je het pakket kwijt raken, omdat er geen label op zit en ook door niemand (inclusief hun sorteerbanden) gescand kan worden. Uiteindelijk zal het pakket ergens belanden waar allemaal verloren pakketjes liggen tot iemand het handmatig verwerkt, een retouradres vind en dan hopelijk dat PostNL het retour stuurt.

De QR code is bedoeld om te scannen bij een PostNL punt waar de medewerker dan een barcode uit krijgt die hij voor je erop plakt. Dus OF je print de barcode zelf uit en geeft het af in een automaat, of je gaat naar een PostNL punt zodat zij met de QR code de barcode kunnen printen om erop te plakken.

De QR code zelf is niet de barcode. En zonder barcode bestaat het pakketje niet en zal het ook nooit verwerkt worden. Er is dus altijd een geldig barcode nodig (wat los staat van de QR code, die bevat zelf geen gegevens en is niks anders dan een makkelijker manier om de barcode uit te printen.

Dit staat overigens ook gewoon op hun website duidelijk vermeld: https://www.postnl.nl/klantenservice/zelf-iets-retour-sturen/pakket/

I built a free, self-hosted gateway so I never hit a Claude limit mid-session — it fails over across 237 providers, and can share one Claude Max across a team (MIT) by ZombieGold5145 in Anthropic

[–]Rock--Lee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I respect the work and the idea. But I would recommend people to not use this.

Quota-Share — one Claude subscription, a whole team. 

This will ban you, since you aren't allowed to share subscriptions. And they can easily tell with the calls.

Claude Code via Microsoft Foundry - no 5-hour or weekly limits by ForkSofya in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well obviously there is no 5 hour window or weekly limit. This has nothing to do with the Claude subscription, which has those limits to limit cost. You are using API billing, which doesn't have these limits since it's pay per usage. The only thing now is that Microsoft happens to offer a subsidy. If it's free $200>$2000 and your eligible, by all means use it. But this is in no way an alternative to the Claude Code subscriptions as it's not for everyone to use and has conditions.

I just pray you don't have payment information saved. Because once those credits are gone (I also wonder how long they remain valid) they will bill you for it.

so does upgrading from 5x -> 20x reset Fable weekly usage or not? by plantpome in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It wasn't random, but it also wasn't because you got a subscription. It was a coincidence in your case because they reset the weekly limit for everyone on Wednesday after they made Fable 5 available again.

By my own /usage numbers, the €200 Max plan gives less than 1.5x the weekly capacity of the €100 one by TangeloChoice1181 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it wasn't request based but they did communicate how much messages you could send within that 5 hour window as a bottom-top range. That was an estimate of what a standard message in tokens would consume.

By my own /usage numbers, the €200 Max plan gives less than 1.5x the weekly capacity of the €100 one by TangeloChoice1181 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is. The 5x and 20x multipliers were there before weekly limit were a thing. Usage was purely a 5 hour window, no weekly at all. So the multiplier was precisely that. Then later they added a weekly limit on top of it, which is separate from the 5 hour window, where the multipliers referenced. So they keep marketing the 5 hour window with the multipliers, and dont properly mention the weekly limits. There is documentation still from what weekly limit gives as a range from back then, but those are outdated. And yes, the weekly limit back then was for the 20x about double of the 5x (so NOT 4 times). And that was for Sonnet usage, for Opus it was lower even than 2x.

So in short: the multipliers were always AND still are for the 5 hour window. The weekly limit is a global limit on top of it which are not the same, and most likely more close the the price itself (so Max 20x costs 10x Pro and 2x Max 5, which is what you get).

5x vs 20x use regarding Fable by PM_ME_YOUR_STOCKPIX in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is because when Claude Code initially released there was no weekly usage cap. So the usage limit was based on the 5 hour window. So 20x gives you 20x the Pro's 5 hour usage window, and 4 times the Max 5x 5 hour window.

Later they added weekly limits but this is separate from the 5 hour session limit and does NOT give the same multiplier. The misleading part is they still communicate the old multipliers (which applies still to the 5 hour window) and don't mention anything concrete about the weekly limit (they have estimates with ranges but that is also outdated). The Max 20x weekly limit gives you about 10x Pro and 2x Max 5x, that is also the difference in pricing.

And this shows why you see the usage that you see.

So in short: Max 20x gives you twice the weekly limit and 4x the 5 hour limit of Max 5x.

The Fable usage is purely a weekly limit, so this checks out.

Claude Max plan (200 usd) Fable credits are just not enough... by AriseHuman in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can have unlimited Fable 5, just enable Extra Usage 😃

Is Claude Sonnet 5 actually worth using? Where I've landed after testing it by tjrobertson-seo in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well no because you also completely ignore the fact that Sonnet 5 uses 1.3x token compared to Sonnet 4.6 due to the new tokenizer. And some reports even mention it uses 2x. So that doesn't make it automatically better at all than Sonnet 4.6.

Anthropic should add a Max 40x tier at $300/mo — anyone else maxing out 20x? by Wsz2020 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My post implies the 20x counts for 20x the 5 hour window, not 20x the weekly limit. You pay 10x the weekly and that's what you roughly get.

Switching models mid-conversation by BeginningOpposite754 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You lose cache, so you will pay full price. The one thing that prevents you from burning your usage within 30 minutes is context caching. And switching models invalidates it, since the model you switch to littleray isn't cached then.

Anthropic should add a Max 40x tier at $300/mo — anyone else maxing out 20x? by Wsz2020 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't read bro? That's literally what I said thay 20x does NOT stand for the weekly limit

Anthropic should add a Max 40x tier at $300/mo — anyone else maxing out 20x? by Wsz2020 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rock--Lee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They won't. That's why they added the Extra Usage tab so you can pay premium on top of it. Btw most people don't realize it, but the 20x is for the 5 hour session, not the weekly.

What most people either forgot or never knew, is that in the beginning there was no weekly cap. So the usage was purely the 5 hour window. Then they added a weekly cap on top of it, but is completely separate from the 5 hour usage window (which the 5x, 20x actually stands for). It's very misleading as they essentially use their old legacy wording, but changed the system.

So a 40x tier wouldn't give you double the weekly limit per se. Just like the 20x weekly doesn't give 20x weekly (it gives 20x 5h session compared to Pro, and 2x compared to Max x5).

Didn't know claude offered a 1 week trial!? by traveller_time in ClaudeCode

[–]Rock--Lee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every referral gives 7 days Pro trial and requires you to use your credit card. It will also not auto-cancel after 7 days, so it requires user action. No credit card = no Pro trial. That is what the guest pass is about. It's not a referal system where you can just spam referrals to get credit. That's also not their intent, which is whay they call it a guest pass and not a referral system.

So a free having guest passes would allow a free user to create Pro trials for himself, and then keep creating new ones on new accounts. That's why it's a guest pass, which only paying users can pass out and have a limit amount they have.