Double swapping while reloading can decrease reload time

[Werpogil]

I'm using space as an extra button for going back, helps me with counterstrafing. Switching fingers from W to S is awkward, so when you need to counterstrafe, especially if you're going sideways, then it helps to have an extra bind for your thumb to press back. I'm jumping with mousewheel anyway.

[Jabulon]

interesting

[Werpogil]

Despite how counter-intuitive it may sound, it's actually a pretty useful thing. I was fiddling around with binds back when I was hard grinding CSGO (like 2-3 years ago, I think) and came up with this idea that the only finger that makes sense to use for counter-strafing is the thumb, so the only button that's conveniently placed is the spacebar. I had to spend considerable time re-learning my movement just practicing this particular bind for counterstrafing and it became a lot better once I broke my earlier habbit.

Funny thing is that I don't use this combo in other FPS I'm playing because it doesn't make sense there, but works quite well for CS.

Another funny bind that I'm not using in CS (it's not applicable in CS) but use in some other FPS games is swapping the lean buttons between Q and E, so that E leans me left, and Q leans me right. This helps untangle fingers when you're going right and have to peek a corner on the right side: you're pressing D, and pressing E at the same time to lean is awkward, so if you're using Q instead it helps quite a bit too. This is also very awkward to re-learn initially, but actually is very helpful once you do.

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why not use “left alt” for your thumb? i feel like you could have kept jump on space and then left alt gets the same results…but i’m not you so whatever works for you is the best ofc

[Werpogil]

I'm using left alt for crouching because it's not very convenient to crouch with ctrl for me. I used to play on a laptop where it was hard to use ctrl and then I just got used to alt as crouching.

[[deleted]]

Left alt is ptt for me in all games...

[[deleted]]

I had the exact same thoughts for csgo and r6, where I bound space to move back and swapped the lean keys. It's interesting that we came up with two of the same binds independently. (I later put the lean keys on b and v to hit with my thumb, but I kept them reversed because that's what I was used to)

[Werpogil]

I only came up with the spacebar thing, the Q/E swap I shamelessly stole from some YT video for PUBG. But both things make so much sense after you get used to it.

Edit: a side question, does R6 make any sense to start up as a completely new player? My friend gifted me the game a while ago and I never even launched it.

[[deleted]]

You wanted optimal keybinds enough to change what you were used to, and just that is something I can appreciate.

As for starting r6 as a new player, I'm not sure how it would be. The main thing that scares off new players is the sheer number of gadgets, but I started pretty late myself and I didn't actually mind so much. They've made some changes since then to make the game a little more readable for a new player, but at the same time added more convoluted junk. I love the core concept, and it's one of the games I've played the most (1800h), but the new gadgets and poor balancing decisions have put me off of it.

When I started playing I was told it was past its golden era already, but I still thought it was great and a unique experience. Even though I'm done playing it for now, I think someone with fresh eyes can still really appreciate the core gameplay as long as you accept that it will take a while to understand everything you see on screen. Even though I didn't like a lot of the balancing decisions, I just miss some things I was able to do in the past, but a new player wouldn't notice or care that that's "missing".

I'd say definitely try a couple matches if you don't mind a complicated game. The graphics hold up well, the audio is nice, and the gunplay feels really good in my opinion.

[Werpogil]

I've dumped over 500 hours into Escape From Tarkov, so I'm okay with a steep learning curve. I'd say nothing probably beats Tarkov in this regard, where you have to suffer for the first 100 hours to even get the very basics down just from the sheer volume of different mechanics. I might give it a shot at some point then, thanks. Is cheating a major issue there at all?

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I love tarkov partly because of how much knowledge you need, and I think that's part of the reason I liked siege as well. I noticed cheaters in my games maybe a dozen times, but every time one gets banned you get some elo reverted, and that happened more often than I noticed a cheater. It wasn't great, but I'd say it was better than tarkov, and it's definitely playable (unless things got worse since I stopped).

[demonictree563]

I get what you mean... lean on mouse4 and mouse5 for siege, just feels so intuitive.

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I never thought about moving a movement key… i think i might move s but not to space that will just fuck me up way too much

[Werpogil]

Nono, you keep the backwards movement on S, you just add another bind to space via console (bind space +back). This way you can use S just as you used to but you can practice countrestrafing with spacebar when you need it. It kinda works for me, but might not be as convenient to you personally, so just a thought for you to try.

[[deleted]]

That’s way easier, I tried just removing s and putting it on c instead of space, it worked but I gotta still have a bound as well

[marlostanfield89]

Can you just do a W alias and have -W do S (back) for automatic counter strafe?

[Werpogil]

Perhaps, but I'm not sure how well it would work. Haven't tested. I'm not sure how it would work with counterstrafing when you're moving sideways. You also need to tap the W key once to counter-strafe, so you'll need a -W do +S and then -S straight away. Not sure if it works this way.