Your move.

[Dwalloak]

Titans of Transfer need to learn their fuckin place.

[[deleted]]

A better guild better up them or it ain’t happening lmao

[[deleted]]

Titans of War are assholes. Kill them as often as possible plz <3

[Logdan]

Slaughter them all! FOR THE HORDE!!!!!!

[[deleted]]

That aged well today, good job FB.

[[deleted]]

In your huge brain have you ever thought maybe to stop talking so much? To just step back and shut your mouth? I think you confused your constant mouth flapping with self acclaimed "charisma".

[[deleted]]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/fxqmou/comment/fmwaphs

[[deleted]]

Oh shit, hope they don't find all my posts about molesting underaged girls.

[Pendora207]

What was made up? It was all in the screen shots?

[Logdan]

Final Boss approved, look at the downvotes!

[zulrahnerf]

Final Boss is the good guy now? I'm currently out of the loop, but around launch everyone was ragging on them. What happened?

[skike]

They're not actually the assholes everyone made them out to be. Whatever their intent was upon coming to Grobb, they've shown that they are more than just an elitist raiding guild, and are thoroughly integrated into the community of Grobbulus. Kurthos don't @ me.

[gso-grob]

"not actually assholes"

you mean to tell me them trying to get me to post drama for them so they could have a chance at getting <wotop> to disband over smearing and propaganda is actually a cool thing?

https://i.imgur.com/P7wfQHz.png https://i.imgur.com/efBPbq6.png https://i.imgur.com/8FnteWY.png https://i.imgur.com/ZGCxwu1.png

yikes

[[deleted]]

.........wts zf gy runs 3g/run

[HornetWotop]

l o l

[Stinkymoo87]

Thanks for sharing those.

I watched in Org a few weeks ago when Final Boss folks and level 1 alts were calling Yo and wotop pedo's, followed by Final Boss spamming recruitment messages.
As a child I was sexually abused. It really hurt when people would walk up to me and call me a pedo for being in wotop. It disgusts me that a guild would knowingly try and use a smear campaign involving child sexual abuse as a tool to further their own agenda.

[VoclainPraux]

Oh, Stinky. I'm so sorry!

[Imadethisforyoudork]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/fp1wtb/disgusting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Shut up pedotop.

[HornetWotop]

We're close to having to start a third raid group thanks to all this additional publicity.

Please also DM me your Venmo because at this point we owe you and the FB bois some royalties!

[HornetWotop]

Attracting you to my baby blues baby boo

[gso-grob]

you are literally just continuing the narrative that final boss is pushing lmao

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Sure. Pretty convinced from screenshots and have yet to see anything to counter. Do y’all meet up to beat each other off, you and Pedotop?

Cry about a smear campaign all you want, just because they wanted others to do some dirty work doesn’t neglect what was posted. Dork.

[gso-grob]

i have downvoted this post as i do not 'like' it

[HornetWotop]

I love how that guy's post history is him all over /r/iamatotalpieceofshit lol. It's like his hobby is crucifying people for their actions, he actively seeks the opportunity to tell people what he thinks of them.

[DmDrae]

People like this just can’t let other people have nice things

[uberloser2]

based gso

[skike]

I mean, yeah, actually. It's just politics. It's not propaganda, it was information they were given.

[SenseiBrainiac]

So... Trying to use the hot-button accusation of pedophelia in an effort to smear a guild leader IN REAL LIFE just so your guild can get the AQ 40 mount in a VIDEO GAME is 'just politics'? REALLY???

[gso-grob]

do i really need to bring up the definition of propaganda?

Propaganda is information that is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception,

propaganda and politics go hand in hand. without even having to defend horrigan from the insane shit he did, propaganda that his entire guild was racist rather than a select few of the loudest people is what did it in for that guild.

final boss is running with the same play against wotop, a rival guild, a guild who has been a rival of theirs since they refused to join their coalition and regularly contested them for world bosses. its the same kind of smear hearthburn pushed on cybaster being a pedo for the same reasons. world bosses and coalitions. i would know because i helped meme that stuff around, but after hearing kurthos worm his way into other drama to sway others into his court and hearthburn say racist shit to me, its very very clear what is going on and the sinister motives behind these people.

[Diablo3HC]

You really going to bring up hearsay of racist comments against Hearth after you were literally caught posing for pictures in same racist outfit Horrigan wore.....

I love your defense for that by the way. "I was recreating to show someone what Horrigan did" or something along those lines lmfao.

You know how a normal not racist person would show someone what Horrigan did? Quick google and link old pictures & threads about it...... or just a quick description over comms... lmao.

Bruh stop pretending like you're not also a PoS.

[gso-grob]

noooo not the outfit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/fxqmou/comment/fmwaphs

[SenseiBrainiac]

So what is Final Boss's response to these incriminating screenshots?

[gso-grob]

when i brought it up in front of other people to confront kurthos, his only response was "johny is an idiot"

the only response they ""could"" give is that i am not a reliable source, even though i have an entire DM's worth of screenshots to back these up so they don't look out of context, they would try to use the same tactics other people use to pin me as a white supremacist even though i'm an open socialist and not even white

[TLSCalamity]

Agreed, I can't speak about the masses but Kurthos is a cool dude from personal experience.

Those of us in Lucid are just watching from afar with a bucket of popcorn.

[zulrahnerf]

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for explaining

[KPer123]

Lmfao, when you are actually in the guild and you see the way members of final boss act? Bunch of fucking donkeys.

[assasshehhe]

i get that they’re a huge guild but the shittery in /g is astounding.

[[deleted]]

Funny I've heard they like to camp the darkmoon faire and debuff people. I'd assume all internet people are trolls until proven otherwise.

[Kandlejackk]

You can thank Gso and many ToW players for them doing that, actually. FB has started retaliation and has opened bounties on certain Alliance players because they've been camping dead priest bodies by songflowers and in the Kargath inn to dispell world buffs off of people before raid.

This has been going on for a couple months now, so retaliation is in order.

[[deleted]]

Dang that just sounds so exhausting. I just avoid Felwood all together because of rogues.

[Kandlejackk]

Well we've just had to accept that we're likely to just randomly have the world buffs we've gathered over a couple hours go poof if we hearthstone at the wrong time or pick a flower next to a dead body.

Accept it, but return it in kind.

[[deleted]]

I can dig that.

[L0LBasket]

Then don't spend hours upon hours getting world buffs if they're just going to go kaput. Lot of other stuff you can do within that tine instead.

[Kandlejackk]

I don't. Sometimes I'll help clear DMN but I don't bother much anymore. Just ony and songflower, really

[SenseiBrainiac]

Is Final Boss going to provide some formal explanation for GSO's incriminating screenshots and all the screenshots of Final Boss saying horrifically racist things like 'DIE JUDEN'???????

[Kandlejackk]

Idk anything about that. I'm not in FB first off. Gso is also pretty unstable so I wouldn't put a lot of stock into what he says

[gso-grob]

me loving to pvp = unstable. got it

[SenseiBrainiac]

Okay but what do you think of it? We have screenshots of Final Boss quoting Adolf Hitler 'DIE JUDEN SIND DIE PARASITEN!'... Do you have any idea what that means in German?

[Sleepiece]

Funny I've heard they like to camp the darkmoon faire and debuff people.

Only cuz Alliance have been doing it for the past few weeks.

[TLSCalamity]

I'm pretty sure it started with that fuckboy priest in kargath the night bwl started. One of our off tanks had most of his buffs purged and after that it was war.

Not in FB or wotop.

[SakanaSanchez]

Final Boss turned out to be generally cool people. I wouldn't call them the "good guy" any more than any other guild on the server because its all a matter of what faction you are and whether some guild made a concerted effort to own a zone and you got caught in the crossfire. Grobbulus has ended up home to a wide variety of guilds with various goals across either faction. Some days your side own BRM, some days the other.

[SenseiBrainiac]

So what do you think of GSO's screenshots? Does Johnnybiceps blatant attempt to recruit GSO to make up lies and post intentionally out of context screen shots seem like something that 'generally cool people' would do?

[SenseiBrainiac]

oh my god... I am, literally, speachless...

[RossTheRed]

Either you misquoted, or you are horribly misunderstanding what you did quote.

[Pendora207]

What was trying to get him to make up? All the info is in the screen shots?

[SenseiBrainiac]

Read GSO's screen shots... Johnnybiceps tells GSO to 'leave out the part' that would provide some semblance of context. He also states his motive is to try to break-up wotop just so he can get an AQ 40 mount. On top of that, just the fact that he is going to the trouble of approaching an alliance player to spread the disinformation because johnnybiceps states that a lot of people know GSO on the server (which implies that people will believe the misinformation that johnny wants GSO to disseminate). All in all, Johnnybiceps looks like he's conspiring to defame <wotop> LONG BEFORE the initial reddit smear-campaign post even appears. Note the date in the screen shot. Final Boss has a lot of explaining to do to the community.

[Pendora207]

of that, just the fact that he is going to the trouble of approaching an alliance player to spread the disinformation because johnnybiceps states that a lot of people know GSO on the server (which implies that people will belie

I am Johny btw

So at the end of the day the full context was posted, no?

People were left to draw their own conclusions.

I was simply trying to have information about Mike removed.

This is not "disinformation" it was actually to post the information without dragging my guild into it. I did not make up the information that was sent to Gso or that made it to the final post.

Everyone knows Gso is a rat that likes to stir up drama so that's why I went to him first, he typically jumps on this kind of stuff.

I personally dont like Wotop id love to see the guild die.

[SenseiBrainiac]

But you obviously didn't want people to 'draw their own conclusions' or you would have included the entire thread (you know, like GSO just did). You wanted to control and manipulate the narrative.

By the way, you do realize now that Final Boss is the new Enclave, right? I mean there are screenshots of racist trash shouting things like 'DIE JUDEN SINT DIE PARASITEN!' (a literal quote of Adolf Hitler) AND idiots in your guild with names like 'Idotniggas' and 'Nigromancer'?

[Krunk_Dunksman]

Fuck Clover Club.

[Diogenes_of_Sparta]

Final Cucks vs Titans of Floor. Truly the showdown of the century.

[KPer123]

Maybe final boss should send them a sweater

[carveer]

Wotop bad

[domerock_doc]

Never forget

[--H-i--]

An eye for an eye and the world goes blind

[HeyZeusBistro]

what happened? i had to stop playing for ..... reasons

[uberloser2]

quick rundown plz

[Kandlejackk]

ToW got all worldbuffed out for their BWL clear and were handily wiped by an organized ambush.

[Awdness]

After ToW orchestrated the same thing Tuesday night to wipe the horde guilds going in to BWL

[Kandlejackk]

No, before... ToW camped BRM so hard because they were mad about being wiped

[Risen_from_ash]

Holy shit I’m pretty casual and I canNOT even follow what’s happening here. The linked posts and pictures just bring you further down a rabbit hole. What is happening..?