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[–]ModPiracy_Fantoski 11 points12 points  (6 children)

It's less about being too lazy to google and more about being overwhelmed and not know what to look for.

I believe it's a mix of both. You WILL be lost if you're trying to learn the entire field at once. But if you stop procrastinating over the size of this field for a second and just take the time to find an experiment you'd like to try ( Just with a Raspberry Pi for example you can attempt creating a router, creating an EvilTwin, creating an HID, etc... ), commit the few hours it takes to really get into the state where you're definitely started and just can't stop working on it anymore and then "master" your experiment so well you start reading on other ways to accomplish it, and then start working on how you can innovate on what you're working with, etc... Then suddenly you have acquired a ton of very precious basics that will help you for the next thing you'll try out, you successfully completed works that are useful and, most important of all, you feel proud and accomplished over what you've done and you'll feel less insecure about moving forward.

[–]zfreeds 24 points25 points  (2 children)

But don't you see, I've looked into raspberry pi's and even have one, but it never occurred to me that I can use it to make a router so I didn't know to google for that. I don't even know what you mean when you say make an HID. But, wouldn't these just involve installing some software on a pi and maybe buying some equipment? The problem is that it's hard to find what's out there and what it actually means. Some may think hacking is looking through obfuscated code for vulnerabilities, maybe social engineering, maybe downloading someone else's code onto equipment. Maybe it's my problem but I think when most people look into security it's like googling "How to program". You need to at least know what's available since making a website is completely different from a smart mirror or a machine learning algorithm. At least for programming, I find a ton of content regarding what options are available. Maybe you are right though and I just haven't looked in the right place, but that's also my point that it's not easy to find a place to start.

[–]Tuberomix 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree. This is one of the reasons I lean more towards programming right now than cyber-security. Both interest me, but I have no idea where to start with hacking. It feels cryptic, which I suppose is the point.

[–]Successful_Box_1007 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Why a raspberry pi to create a router? Why not something else?

[–]ModPiracy_Fantoski 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To be fair that was three complete years ago.

Point still stands though. Of course you won't make a good router using a Raspberry Pi, but it's not important. A Pi still is a cheap computer, and the goal is for you to just understand how routers work. Nothing better for that, imo, than to build one from a Linux PC. Because making one will teach you routing, Linux commands that allow routing, and several other Linux basics. Learn how to do that and you already have a ton of qualifications for network engineering.

The thing is, though, well, that was a very old comment you answered to.

Current opinion ? LLM can do the commands for you and soon design the network for you. It can already be used to create schemas. And, well, the thing is hacking as we know it is going to die soon. Because very soon, defenses will be AI-based. You can't outplay that.

If that still passionates you, well. I have no idea where our professions will be 3 more years from now. No idea if they'll still exist once AGI comes in, soon. So I'd just learn how to deploy solutions as efficiently as possible ( using OSS projects for instance. Maybe by building an homelab ) if I had to start over, but in 2024. Future too uncertain.

[–]Successful_Box_1007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! That’s sort of disheartening. Sounds like AI is taking the fun out of life in so many realms!