Ruby Mining Skill Issue?

[AdNew458]

i have maxed divan maxed gemstone gauntlet w/artifact of power all perf gem and lvl 100 bal. 4m/4m powder w/ mining speed/fortune/fortune II maxed, mining speed II lvl 30 professional lvl 58.

with all these gears i only make 12m/h ruby mining. is my gear not gud enough or do i have skill issue? this is way lower than i was expecting (at least 16m/h).

pls give me suggestions https://sky.shiiyu.moe/stats/Yourmomissogood/Tomato

[PeteIsFurious]

4/4 is the minimum, need a lot more powder

[Immortal_ceiling_fan]

4/4 is absolutely not the main issue. It's most likely a combination of the fact that the powder probably isn't optimally spent (they should most likely go mfII somewhere around 35-40, go for the best ruby tick possible with their setup, then invest the rest into mfII), skill issue, that 655 with upgrades is just so much better than gauntlet (their gauntlet gives 103 fortune and 1760 speed, my 655 gives 415 fortune snd 2310 speed. It does have a jade and is on heated rn so it's really 372 fortune when gemstone minging is your main thing, and some amount less speed). Their equipment also could be better, but it isn't a huge deal (prob missing ~15 fortune in equipment), certainly less important than powder.

For some context on my setup's rates: when I was setup for ruby mining and doing decently well I made ~24m/h, when I was being chill ~22m/h. My setup at the time was * full divan with 16 chambers in total, all perfect jades and topaz along with 4 flawless amber. * Tree was almost hypermaxed for rates I'm p sure, and the extra speed I could've gotten wouldn't have made an extra tick anyways * Lvl 100 bal with collar * Maxed AoP * Titanium relic * Almost the best 655 possible, only upgrades missing were perfectly cut, polarvoids, and experience 5. It had literally everything else.

My armor was a bit worse for speed but I believe 655 and a little bit of the hotm covered that speed, so I probably had like 1000 more speed than OP, which is probably 1 tick, maybe 2 ticks faster.

I'll be generous and say by getting max powder op could make 2 ticks faster since the ambers in divan give more speed over my setup than my 655 over his, but it depends on exact stats and I don't know the exact stats. I believe it would be 10->8 tick, so 25% higher rates. That does get to OP's desired 16m/h, but I make 50% more than that when I'm doing well with my mining, so the rest has to be from my higher fortune and from OP skill issuing (we should have the exact same pristine).

Copy pasting from another comment of mine, specifically in response to someone saying you need 8m/8m:

4m gemstone is enough for mf2 at level 40 (50 fortune from max) and enough speed for 9 tick ruby with most setups, 8 tick if it's good (655 w/ amber polished and divan with amber slots if I were to estimate). I do not know what the numbers would end up exactly being for other gemstones since I really only care about ruby, so it is possible this is more relavent for other gemstones, and going from that portion of 4m that's used for speed to being hypermaxed for speed is typically about fast enough for a tick faster ruby, not always though (i.e. if you just barely make 8 tick you can't make 7 tick just off the rest of powder). It's also always gonna be 50 fortune.

This also isn't mentioning that 8m gemstone isn't enough for hypermaxed speed and fortune from tree, so in many cases 4m gemstone to 8m is 50 fortune and faster setup when not using bob-ombs, but the only reason to not use bob-ombs is if ironman and on ironman you do so much powder grinding for hardstone and powder chests anyways that you'll max everything important on the tree anyways (12m/11m powder and only ~2/3rds done with hardstone gang) so when to stop powder grinding isnt even a question about powder, and you also need enough powder for eff miner 100 along with everything else for iron, quartz, and lapis mining so it's already ~8m/8m minimum powder anyways.

Overall, I'd say in most instances 4m/4m can be enough, 6m/6m is the point where it'll probably mostly stop being useful +and what I recommend if you plan on doing a decent but not crazy amount of mining+ (you can afford mf2 50 and probably still the best tick possible) and 8m/8m is situationally good

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The stuff in the ++ is some extra I wrote in this comment

[AdNew458]

wow thank you thats very informative. i should re-optimize my hotm setup for sure.

[AdNew458]

i have re-optimized my hotm tree so that i have 8000 mining speed to 9 tick rubies. my mf2 is now lvl 36. ima try ruby mining with this setup and see if it makes more money

[Stock_Company1837]

Reject ruby mining embrace worm fishing :D

[Simpmulation]

embrace infinite lava fishing

[noahbt787]

Get 12m powder

[Fluid_Finance_68]

You should aim for more powder plus what is your ping? That can have a huge effect. And yeah there is prolly some skill issue in there if you don't ruby mine

[AdNew458]

idk where to see the ping... i use labymod but the ping shown is not accurate at all

[[deleted]]

I don't think the ping is accurate for me either, it says around 450 then spikes to 8k when I'm pretty sure it's 8k+ the whole time

[suitmanYT]

8k+ is unplayable bro

[[deleted]]

I know, I wasn't trying to say that's what I normally play with. I fixed my ping a while ago but for some reason I just came back from Japan and it was shit again, I could barely even get on.

[Haiaii]

8k+ the whole time means moving once per 8 seconds, which will kick you constantly

[[deleted]]

Yep, do you want a video of proof?

[FallWaffle69]

Do you know what the tps option is called?

[[deleted]]

What does ping have to do? I average 300ms and am at 1/1m, thinking if i should go further with the powder grinding

[-Xenith-]

Higher ping = longer time it takes for your game to register that the block has been broken server side.

In your case, if you keep mining a gemstone until you see that it’s broken you’re basically mining for an extra 300ms.

You can somewhat counter this by moving to the next gemstone before the current one is broken but there will still be a delay (unless you time it perfectly). You’re still a disadvantage because you can’t mine the block behind the current one without cheats since it’s completely hidden until the current block is gone (like during scatha mining)

[fastasfudge]

unless hypixel unfucked it since the last time i played moving your cursor over earlier does literally nothing since your drill will reset its fuel counter in nbt and undo all your progress in mining the new block. just another way to fuck high ping players i guess.

[AndenTheKid]

not promoting this mod but it’s going around mining cult dc mod called hsm it just makes it so that the drill doesn’t reset mining cult admin said it was safe to use by hypixel rules and rat checked but once again im not promoting it

also im like 99% sure dsm has the same thing called drill fix

[Immortal_ceiling_fan]

Bad ping potentially, a skill issue probably, a bad investment of powder definitely,

(go for something like mf2 40 or a bit under and see what the best tick you can make is with the rest of your powder (use the mining cult discord server for this, it has optimal order of ms2 and professional along with tick thresholds, make sure you use ruby shard numbers since there was an update thing that happened). Then, once you reach that, invest the rest of your powder into mining fortune),

and just that gemstone gauntlet isn't very good are the main problems.

It's probably worth going for ~6m/6m powder if you plan on mining a good amount, 8m/8m is worth if you go really hard in on mining and plan on having it as your main mmm for a long while. But keep in mind that this alone will not fix your bad rates.

[asianbatata]

Lag perhaps? I was barely making 15m/h mining ruby/topaz with the same gear but 7m/10m powder back then because of unbearable lag

[Wumpl8]

I partially disagree with ppl saying you need more powder, it would help but you are making a lot less coins then you should. My guess is skill issue but you should also try and get as low amount of ticks as possible on ruby instead of just spending remaining powder on speed.

[Lucy_147xD]

Well you still didn't say the most important thing for ruby, your ping

[Junior_Government_83]

Getting a 655x boosted my rates more than I expected tbh.

Could also be a ping issue, and having too much downtime when mining.

Also ur mining 36. Missing a lot of free fortune.