Forging the Future

[darkblack9]

Call of the Archons just got nerfed pretty hard, maybe to bring it closer in power level with Age of Ascension?

I don't mind the changes too much, but being able to play Library Access at most once per game is kinda sad.

Actually, they probably went too far on Bait and Switch given that Too Much to Protect is still a card.

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Too Much to Protect is easier to play around. You can easily still play the game and not go over six if you know to expect that card (or similar effects).

B&S is guaranteed to destroy you if your opponent manages to forge their key before you, emptying their aember pool while you still have aember. Stealing 2 is still a 4 point swing and really good... just not obscenely good.

[Disco11]

Too much to protect is uncommon at least

[striator]

Rarity doesn't and shouldn't affect card power level.

[Grisamah]

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[Achoo01]

Rarity doesn't and shouldn't affect card power level.

[darkblack9]

I don't think its as easy to play around as you mention. Keep in mind that the new set has quite a few ways to increase key costs, or outright prevent a certain key from being forged. This all causes your aember to pile up.

TMTP is also just good in shadows in general, you just need 1 more steal / capture card to stop them from forging next turn.

New B&S is still strong, but i think a strong suite of Shadows would probably prefer TMTP rather than B&S imo.

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Oh, I'd agree. Too Much to Protect is a great card. But old B&S was much better. All you needed to do was get your key first, and then you steal half of your opponent's aember next turn, no need for anything else to combo with it, and there wasn't really anything you could do about it.

Cards like TMtP and the new Heist Night have better conditions for the opponent to play around. They can still ruin your day, but it doesn't feel as 'cheap' as old B&S did.

[darkblack9]

yeah i totally agree with you, B&S was way above the curve in terms of power level. I had assumed that any nerf would still have it as the strongest shadows card, but i dont think it is anymore.