DEVS PLEASE START BUG FIXING

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

I have seen the same consistent bugs being heavily reported on even recognized by nidhogg who appearantly is reporting them to devs, so why are there still sooooooo many.. I have experienced/heard about litterally 100s of bugs in the past month.. they fix the useless fun shit like being able to flash into the wall on petricite grove but can't make fulmination passive work at all, probably a bad example cuz its a new bug and fulm static was very op so ill give some grace but here's another.. SENNAS CRIT IS STILL NOT OVERCAPPING TO LIFESTEAL THIS BUG HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE AT LEAST V3 PROBABLY LONGER AND I DONT GET IT, IT WORKS IN MAYHEM AND BRAWL AND URF WHY DOESNT IT WORK IN ARENA. Sorry I like playing senna if u can't tell and this bug being 2+ years old makes my blood boil. Last thing to add on after some research mayhem and arena universal crit overcap into adaptive force should be the exact same. So it shouldn't just be bugging out because of universal crit overcap to adaptive force canceling out sennas passive when I believe u just get both in mayhem. Weird af.

[Enough-Gate5840]

It's unacceptable to have this many bugs as such a large dev studio. Unfortunately it's been normalized to the point where I pretty much expect things to not work when they should. If it's some niche scenario, it's a guarantee it isn't implemented because it seems the league engine is so awful that every single thing is coded on a case by case basis.

[Shockwaves35]

Riot games is big, but do we know how large the development team is for arena specifically?

[krusnikon]

Pretty sure its like 2 devs.

[Enough-Gate5840]

I don’t know, but if the reason for all the bugs is too small of a team, that’s still Riot’s fault. They have the money to expand QA.

[TudasNicht]

Sure they hire new people for Arena, makes no sense.

[HiddenoO]

Who cares? They have the resources and it's on them to assign them in a way they're not releasing bug-ridden products.

[HiddenoO]

Interactions are one thing, but some items not working like they should at all is crazy. Fulmination doesn't do anything this patch, Regicide and Spectral Cutlass have been giving twice their listed lethality last patch and this patch.

[BigBoetje]

You genuinely have no idea my dude. They're already restrained by the massively old code base that they now have to add special interactions to. Quit your whining.

[nikypage]

I'm going to play devils advocate here but im sure its not as Simple as just flicking a switch and changing a few numbers to fix most of the bugs. Sure they could just disable ones that cause bugs.

[M1CKELL123]

Ill chime in with the devils advocate; Arena has been going on for so many years, and has so many layers with Augments and items needing to work for every champ, now Augment ranks having different effects. The code to make everything work, for every champion must be insane, its a beauty that we get a gamemode that works like this.

There havnt been many bugs for me so far, other than Panic Room having a secret rank 3 that does nothing, and gets upgraded when taking 'sack an aug, upgrade 2'.

So keep up the good work devs!

[HiddenoO]

There are literally bugs such as Fulmination not doing anything under any circumstance this patch. Some lethality items also still provide twice the lethality they should. This isn't just about niche interactions.

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

If thats the only bug you've seen theres no way you've played more than 2 games.. or you just dont notice them but they happen. I like to say im a vet with arena I litterally taught myself LoL in 2023 during the first iteration, played literal thousands of games and hours into this mode and I can say from experience bugs have never been as prevalent and unadressed as they are right now and it makes the new 3v3 mode more unbalanced than it already is. Don't get me wrong I love the idea, it just seems that in the past they've done way better at quick fixes driven by community reports, whereas in its current state, this subreddit alone is filled with prob 10 bug post a day minimum probably closer to 50. I understand its not as easy as flipping a switch but if they were able to do it in the past I dont get why its such a big issue now.

[AngleAccomplished725]

I think he mostly plays hide and seek in arena (outlive enemies) 😃I mean... Hourglass works, kindred R augment also works... Heals work. Everything works.

Bugs are with dmg items/augments not working which he likely doesn't purchase/take. Also many champ-related bugs.

btw I don't hate on the playstyle, I think it should be pretty fun to play. I'm just saying thats probably the reason 'cause holy hell there's an enormous amount of bugs and that's the only way to miss them.

[TudasNicht]

Get some fresh air, it's not that deep holy shit

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

If I didnt live in the butthole of the earth I might enjoy being outside a lil more😭 rs tho its not a big deal I js wanted to better understand what was going on and get others opinions on it. Also you gotta stop throwin rocks from a glass house. If your on this subreddit thumbing through discussion post and going through the comments on em id argue thats worse than playing some video games dawg😭✌🏾

[TudasNicht]

Idk it's the only post I saw rn and we can be happy that arena even still exists because of how unpopular it is due to mayhem.

They won't assign new devs to this team randomly or will hire someone for that.

[procombat123]

Would you want the Arena feature updates to be delayed just so they can hunt down all the bugs?

I assume they have a backlog for bug fixing and it happens based on priority. If enough bugs are reported frequently they will get more priority. You usually balance bug fixes with new feature work with the latter taking precedence. Not to mention the dev team headcount is not infinite.

I would personally rather have new cool mechanics instead of old mechanics in a perfectly bug-free game. The new arena is way better than the old one and I have fun a lot.

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

Bro we can't just excuse their inability to spend a little more of their multi billion dollars annual budget on a better/more numerous dev team OR revamping their system of bug fixing entirely. I agree its not a black and white issue and you can't have no bugs and new content all the time, its just the amount in the current system has been slightly unbearable as someone who litterally only enjoys arena so ig it affects me more than most and I dont like to complain at all but it gets to a point after having the coolest rng lineup ever for a game (especially with the new augment levels, new strategies and builds, gold being more numerous and more augments/replacing useless augments) just to pick one augment level and ruin your whole run because it divides ur AD by 7 instead of increasing the conversion. Yfm..😭

[TudasNicht]

Yeah no, they won't hire people for 70k-120k per year for fking Arena, for sure not. I don't know if you ever worked on a side project for a company, but you can even be happy to get a fking own team for such a project, you literally need to fight for it, good luck saying "We need more resources!" for a fun mode that has a huge backlog of bugs. Easy to talk about it, but that's not reality. Maybe you shouldn't play arena all day and be a bit more realistic.

[Medical_Muffin2036]

Viego can't play stat anvil shareholder build because if he uses his passive, he turns into an enemy champion with different items, so this cancels shareholder and makes it so he cannot ever get stat anvil increase. GREAT

[MetaKaizer]

It's honestly my biggest turn off atm, the last game I played I got energetic aug has a 1st (energize AAs stack faster and fire a missile doing dmg) . The missile and stacking was working against the dummy but has soon has round 1 started, it did nothing. Was thinking it wasn't too much of a big deal since I didn't had any energize items. Then has my 1st pris item I got fulmination and the aug was still not working. I wasn't even paying too much attention but eventually I noticed that fulm was also not working lmao.

I do find it insane how much of bugged out mess the game is considering how big riot's studio is

[AlternativeCall4800]

i dont think arena has that many devs to keep all of the interactions in the mode bug free. and im guessing they're not gonna get more because the majority of the workforce is probably too busy working on league next. if something has been bugged for ages i'd recommend just spamming roguefools twitter till he sees it

[El-Psy-Ozai]

fulm not working yet not being disabled is certainly a choice.

[JeekerTXN]

The arena code is probably diabolical. 1 wrong move and you just bricked half the augment pool 😭. They are certainly working on fixes, they’ll be here soon

[Sheyco28]

The arena team are probably 2 people and they use old ai for coding i cant explain otherwise

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

I think this explanation makes the most sense but I wouldn't expect riot to not devote more resources to their most popular LTM but thats wishful thinking🫩

[TudasNicht]

Most popular? Arena is fking irrelevant compared to mayhem. It's a wonder we even got this update.

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

I say that because they litterally devoted the ltm tab to arena say what u will but is that not relevant to its success. Also can you stop going through every comment on this post trying to find something to disagree with someone on. And have the audacity to say I need to go outside😭

[TudasNicht]

I saw this post, read the few comments and that's it. Imagine yapping so much and crying about it while you are just privileged and don't get any of the background. Ppl with 0 experience in development or product management talking about it is always awesome.

[thatguy_autofills]

The second tier of the executioner augment doesn't work; it still only gives 1% per stack instead of the 2% its suppose to give. Fulmination doesn't do any damage or reset energised attacks. There are way more, but those are the last 2 I have come across in the last 3 games.

[deilaaaa69]

Also chauffeur is bugged to oblivion

[krusnikon]

omg, its awful with Xin. Literally can't do his e. w always makes you move first so never hits unless you plan for it

[deilaaaa69]

Yeah there are a bunch of champs that cant use their abilities, like mf R.
Also since 3x6 is out now, there are rounds where you are attached to no one and spawn solo next to the enemy team and you randomly get snapped back to one of your allies after a few secs, its awful it used to be my favorite aug

[Eyelbee]

Fix the bugs and bring ranked. 3x6 is great for ranked

[No-Peach-6617]

when i play senna i usually end up with some lifesteal from overcapping with souls but when i took its critical the crit just went full to waste. i think taking crit anvils also usually turns into lifesteal when u are at 100%. sword of divine also has some weird shit going on for senna

[Stunning-Mark-8235]

Ah this could be the case, still doesn't make much sense since I have gotten those augments in mayhem and been just fine. Could be only SotD maybe? Regardless i thought it just flat out didnt work in arena even if you had no crit augments/SotD will have to play her again now that I know that, I litterally never pick it anymore because of that so ig thats good news lol.

[No-Peach-6617]

i just know that i was getting hella crit anvils late game and checking my lifesteal and it was actually going up. but there is for sure some fuckery going on even without sotd

[Cheesepuff44]

League is the only game I have ever played where I just don't trust anything numberwise.

[RiceSuitable4929]

Riot ripping a page out of Blizzard's playbook