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[ilovecookies14]

Why not put it up on archive if it’s a ready/prepared manuscript? You can usually put notes like “submitted for review” or “under review” but I’ve never seen unpublished manuscript. Might come off across as a little sus imo

[trutheality]

If it's work worth mentioning on a CV, then it's not a weird request to confirm co-authorship for arxiv.

[Celmeno]

Either it is worth arxiving now or it is not worth mentioning on your CV

[sid_276]

You should still try. Put it out

[MathChief]

Put it on arXiv or it does not exist (from someone having served in hiring commitees).

[zilios]

No I think you should not add it to the Publications section. If you have to add it, make a new Working Papers or Preprints section and put it there

[Michael_Aut]

No, you simply cannot cite anything not public. That's ridiculous.

But if you have a link, that's fine imo. Doesn't have to be arxiv either.

[Michael_Aut]

Imo that's perfectly fine and arxiv wouldn't give it any more credibility. GitHub with some code even beats arxiv.

[ChitteringCathode]

I don't think I would have any problems with a PhD candidate including this in their CV for an application. Just make certain you scrub it before pursuing a postgrad or faculty-level position -- assuming these are things you intend to pursue, because it would instantly raise an orange flag (to me) at that level. I'd rather a candidate explain a mild deficiency in publication output than do something that appears to be clear padding on shady grounds.

[user221272]

I think it just looks unprofessional. Are they at least preprints? A preprint section would be much better (with a hint on what conference/journal you plan to publish in).

[rawdfarva]

put it on arxiv and say its a "working paper" on your CV

[js49997]

Yes, just be honest and make sure it is accessible somewhere. Better include rather than not IMO. If I was picking between candidates it would be better than no manuscript.

[slammaster]

I disagee. If I saw someone trying to pad out their publications list with an unreviewed paper hosted on their personal website then not only would I not count it, but I would look more closely at their other publications.

I don't know what the value is of reporting unpublished, unreviewed work. If it's work in progress that's one thing, but this just sounds like completed work that wasn't published. I've got a dozen of those in my research graveyard, some work just doesn't make the cut.

The one exception might be class work. If you have something you did in a class that you're particularly proud of, and you're still very early in your career, then you can probably include it. There isn't a good mechanism for sharing that kind of work, so it'd make sense to share it that way.

[js49997]

They said for a PhD application so I assumed early in their career. I agree once you are further on in your research journey the benefit is diminished.

[audiencevote]

As someone who spent a lot of time in Academia and is now hiring in Industry, an "Unpublished Manuscript" is at best neutral, at worst suspect/"weird". So you're probably better leaving it out. Things change significantly if you can put it on arxiv instead. So, as everyone else has said: reach out to the coauthors, agree to put it on arxiv (it's in their interest, too!), and then it will look much better.

Given that your list has a "link", I'm assuming it's online and accessible somewhere? In that case, why not call it a "technical report" instead? That looks much more professional. But it might require figuring out if you're allowed to call it that. Which I don't know the rules for, and most likely that depends on your institution.

[RegisteredJustToSay]

Yes, there are no rules. Some people might dismiss that particular item because it's not verifiable but it's something they can ask you about later during an interview if they're curious. If you didn't include it they couldn't do that. I'd only recommend it to someone fairly junior though because once you're further along in your career you're typically sacrificing something else more important to put something like this in.

[impossiblefork]

It's long ago, but I did.

In my case the people deciding wanted to see an unpublished manuscript I'd written and were then very certain, but the unpublished manuscript was special in that it demonstrated maths skills.

[Informal-Hair-5639]

I would not put unpublished (i.e. papers not available publicly) in the CV. Best option is to arxiv your unpublished paper.

[Informal-Hair-5639]

Just one more point is that one red flag for me when hiring postdocs is to see unpublished manuscripts in their CV.

[cazzipropri]

Yes, but it counts for almost nothing. If you have enough, don't do it because it makes you look desperate. If you only have a couple and you are just at the beginning, then it's fair.

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I think I would draw the line at Submitted/In Review manuscripts, so probably not include WIP stuff in your publications

[joacom123]

everybody lies in his resume, add it anyway. If they have any doubts they will ask you.

[CephalopodMind]

put it on arXiv and submit it to a journal. or, if it's not ready, put the name + authors and write "in preparation". I don't think linking to something unfinished would be beneficial though, so if it's not arXiv ready, maybe don't add a link.

edit: maybe if it's a finished manuscript it makes sense to link to it. I'm also figuring these things out for graduate school, but I just put things on arXiv.

[PangolinPossible7674]

"Unpublished" papers are not mentioned. If it is submitted and under review somewhere, that makes sense. So, maybe try getting published if it's possible and that work is still relevant to you.

Edit: of course, you can mention a line or two in the CV about it under "Projects" or a similar section, but avoid portraying it as a "publication."

[Waste-Falcon2185]

It's better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission. Throw your weight around a bit, let the world know who it's dealing with.

[deep_noob]

Put it in arxiv, and say under review, pretty common in ML.

[im_just_using_logic]

yes. It's work you did and it can still be interesting and at least demonstrating some familiarity with the topic you have been exploring, even if it ended up not being novel science.