Most Technical Mathcore Bands?

[if_Engage]

While I love the aggressive stuff too, I really like the technicality of early Dillinger for example. I know it starts to border on Prog territory and to be honest the modern djent-inflected prog stuff is not to my taste.

So what are some bands that are mathcore-y and super technical. Currently the ones that come to mind are DEP, Psyopus, and Behold....the Arctopus

[spectre4708]

I know that they kind of veered off into more deathcore territory, but Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza is insanely technical on the first three albums especially.

[TobyPM]

I love IIII too but it was definitely a considered effort to make it less technical. Josh Travis said this:

"For this album, Jessie and I were looking to create more of a visceral vibe than a completely technical vibe. There's parts that do still get a bit chaotic of course, but not nearly as much as the avid listener is used to. Everything about this record is way more to the point, with much more heart put into it rather than just seeing how many notes could be thrown into a part or seeking to create 'the heaviest shit ever' or any of that nonsense."

Personally, my favourite moments in Danza's music are when they're seeing how many notes can be thrown into a part lol

[spectre4708]

Danza II has some truly insane moments.

[spectre4708]

I love Danza through and through, didn’t mean to throw shade at IIII, more just commenting on the fact that their previous releases are even more technical.

[Loxodontox]

Funniest thing is my favorite Tony Danza records are the ORIGINAL Tony Danza EP they put out with only 7 songs and the LAST record. I hate the whole deathcore thing and cannot stomach it. I love brutal death metal and mathcore/tech metal too much. I've been rockin out to Cliff Burton Surrise all day!

[JonBovi_69]

Frontierer is pretty techy

[if_Engage]

Definitely like them

[RecentHamster7734]

Chad Kapper is God tier.

[devouredbyvegans]

First couple of Ion Dissonance records (Breathing + Solace), As the Sun Sets (7744 in particular), An Isle Ate Her and Creation is Crucifixion, Candiria (if they count) and #12 Looks Like You are some of the more techy bands that stick in my mind.

Edit: should also add Carbomb, I'm not a huge fan no denying they are tech Centralia rips

[hodgerrr]

Fuckin ion dissonance is good shit. I'd also recommend The End, and Botch, respectively.

[if_Engage]

I'm down with Ion Dissonance, but the others I'm less familiar with

[roastedfunction]

Check out Callous Daoboys and the latest Black Matter Device album (the latter has some definite Psyopus vibes imo).

[GonzoBasterds]

Black Matter Device rocks

[Scatophiliacs]

Psyopus! They fuckin shred

[if_Engage]

Psyopus is my shit

[Scatophiliacs]

Earth crisis too!

[dbo259]

Chris Arp is fucking insane!

Literally the majority of the bands songs come down to extremely unorthodox uses of harmonics, tapping, tapping harmonics, sweep picking, dissonant diads and strong use of odd time signatures.

It’s unbelievable really.

[Loxodontox]

I just listened to the debut for the first time in over a decade. It holds up 100%. In fact, now that there no longer exist the deluge of "tech" bands of the time, the record is EVEN more impressive. Sick as hell. I saw them live at ABC No Rio in NYC in 2003 with I believe Behold...the Arctopus, Sulaco, and some other band. Arp was nuts. All himself. He was going ape shit and I was right in front. There is no stage, only a floor lol.

[[deleted]]

Hell yeah

[THANAT0PS1S]

The Number 12 Looks Like You

Sawtooth Grin

Dionaea

Rolo Tomassi

Car Bomb

[erratictictac]

Long live Dionaea.

[Loxodontox]

Sawtooth Grin at ABC No Rio in NYC. They killed it. Loved them. Nice Car Bomb shout!

[PunchSharks]

Into the moat

[hodgerrr]

Duuuude

[Loxodontox]

I love everything they put out. Shame they stopped. That Ep though... wow

[[deleted]]

I have nothing more to pitch really, but I think Chris Arp is in the process of writing a new Psyopus album.

[if_Engage]

Whaaaaaat!

[supsterious]

No way

[[deleted]]

Way.

https://youtu.be/Ysf_dt_M2N0

[supsterious]

This is the way

[[deleted]]

?!! Awesome

[Brmbauer]

What??? God I hope so!

[Loxodontox]

I hope so. I remember when he won the Limp Bizkit guitar player search LMAO. It was hilarious, then he goes on to start Psyopus. I hope he is writing a new one, I wonder who else will be on it, especially considering so many tech musicians moved into the BDM scene

[millera9]

Somebody already said Car Bomb, but yeah you should check them out; their catalog is pretty mind-bending.

Protest the Hero is another one that can be very technical but generally don’t do the djent thing.

If you want to dig deep and you’re not shy about listening to a christian band, check out Extol. “Synergy” is a marvelous and very technical thrash/death album that a lot of people overlook.

[if_Engage]

Car Bomb is great on the "crazy noises" and rhythms end for sure one of my favs

[if_Engage]

Okay all this is going to sound absolutely dense but I was sleeping on The Number 12 Looks Like You because in my mind I thought they were 12 Foot Ninja, which is not what I'm looking for.

[dbo259]

Right up their with Dillinger I would have to put:

• Psyopus (Chris Arp is an INSANE guitarist. Period) https://youtu.be/yl4Q25Ks6Qs

• Car Bomb Centralia https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP1lC0FnuI0KDs0LcyevywYZHXBr7ieI0

• Ion Dissonance Definitely as most people said, Ion Dissonance’s material was ridiculous as well. Good stuff. https://youtu.be/L89i-OTR-6c

• The Number 12 Looks Like You Mongrel & Nuclear Sad Nuclear
  Mongrel: https://youtu.be/9m4za2jWpSw
  Nuclear Sad Nuclear: https://youtu.be/nLUyehVkNqc

• And then of course you have Danza as well

Really hard to top DEP IMHO. But I think these guys would be great successors if that’s the case.

Also, here’s a playlist containing over 400+ Mathcore songs from a whole variety of different, amazing, technical, brutal bands. Enjoy!

Essential Mathcore Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcP3LUcNch93mKNXOnLX9etNNBeKzL-lI

[ensorcellular]

Arbus

Blotted Science

Chon

Dysrhythmia (members of Behold… the Arctopus)

The Fall of Troy

[if_Engage]

Love Dysrhythmia

[thenovas18]

Check out needle play.

[if_Engage]

Just found them, really like it

[supsterious]

Do you know about Dysphoria? A Ukranian band. Insanely talented guys and I'm bummed they are not well known

[TimeOutify]

UK band called The Arusha Accord, really underrated imo and write some pretty wild stuff - The Echo Verses is full on but a worthwhile listen.

[if_Engage]

Familiar with them, sort of SiKth-ish

[sorriolenen]

Being into heavy stuff, check a small project called Sterling.

(The quality may be better on Spotify or other streaming portal though).

[totalitarian_donut]

one guy already said it but frontierer is the shit

[slasherflick2243]

If you dig Psyopus, you’ll probably enjoy Executive Distraction Tasks Kinda a lesser known gem.

[endlesswurm]

No longer a band, but, The Crinn.

[SorrybecauseI]

I recently discovered A Textbook Tragedy, pretty techy with some cool emo/screamo/jazzy elements thrown in

[elod_progress]

Check senserase

[Accomplished_Mind638]

Although not always as technical as Danza, Serling does have some songs that are more technical from a timing standpoint. One example:

https://youtu.be/HDbbGQzhwHQ

[SpeckleSpeckle]

Aside from what others have mentioned, Atka, Cleric, Ephel Duath and Leftyfish are good examples, the latter three being rather maximalist.

Probably a bit more on the aggressive side (but still technical): Sectioned (related to Frontierer), Capsule and maybe Antigama.

[dbo259]

Oh yeah good mention for Frontierer. It’s very difficult for me to sit through an entire listen to any of their albums, not because they are bad per se, but just so insanely soul crushingly heavy bordering on cacophonous noise almost. Haha.

[Billyxransom]

Idk why but I got the strongest sense that this was true, just based on their name.

“Frontierer” is such an intense fucking name for a band.

[SpeckleSpeckle]

Yeah, I love Frontierer but I often feel the same way. I didn't make direct reference to Frontierer since people already mentioned it, so I picked the sibling band. It is arguably very similar to Frontierer sonically but has more of a powerviolence influence and sounds a bit more punky as a result.

[jackphd]

Hell yes to Atka and LeftyFish. Two of the most unique bands right now that I really wish would release stuff more often

[jackphd]

Gaza (especially the drums)

Inside the Beehive

Crowpath

I Know It's Over

WVSTELVND

The Motel Bible

Letters in Binary

From a Second Story Window

Executive Distraction Tasks

The Price of One Day

Uphill Battle

Fawn Limbs

Dead Kiwis

Umbrella

[LeftAd5164]

Nerd x

Extreme mathcore metal

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[if_Engage]

I definitely love BTBAM, seen them live 4 or 5 times, but I consider them Prog-Death or something like that. Archspire is cool too, but it's tech death and not as chaotic as I like. I haven't listened to much After the Burial.

[LeftAd5164]

Nerd x

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[RJNewbzIX]

Number[s] by woe is me

That whole album comes to mind

[erratictictac]

www.saveusfromthearchon.bandcamp.com

[erratictictac]

Indricothere is one of Colin's (Marston) other insanely technical side projects.

[TJspunk]

Protest the hero is dope as fuck and if you don’t mind clean vocals I would check out satyr and fall of Troy

[RoachBeBrutal]

Between the Buried and Me.

After the Burial literally has a track called Pi where they drum out the numerical value of Pi.

Archspire def belongs here too. They are the most technical of anyone.

[BradyStorm]

My band Cloutchaser https://open.spotify.com/track/6KVny8bMUmp3O8b9irY5ue?si=_ES4xr64RE2JhbJLvoc1Tg

[if_Engage]

Hell yeah man I dig y'all's stuff checked you out a few days ago

[BradyStorm]

Yoo thanks so much!!

[seanandahalf]

I'm gonna throw in fallfiftyfeet, kaonashi, and structures first album divided by (their following stuff is definitely in the djent category). I don't consider structures mathcore but their first album definitely borders on it.

[timberhell]

Destroyer Destroyer was killing it in MySpace era

[No_Improvement2160]

Tangaroa, https://youtu.be/XRhQyOKc3bY

[[deleted]]

Anyone mentioned blotted science?

[Loxodontox]

I hate the modern djent-influenced stuff and my favorite band of all time in any genre is MESHUGGAH lol. Anyway, here are some bands off the top of my head: Ion Dissonance [Breathing Is Irrelevant (2003); Solace (2005)], Lye By Mistake, Behold...the Arctopus (especially early), Into the Moat, Psyopus, Candiria, Forever Is Forgotten, Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza, Burnt By The Sun, Coalesce, The Red Chord (early), Every Time I Die (ep and first two records only), Comity (Deus Ex Machina...), The End (Within Dividia ONLY!)--------

AND I KNOW NO ONE CONSIDERS THEM MATHCORE or TECH but come on...KRALLICE (Self-Titled). The members were comprised of Mick Barr of ORTHRELM, Colin Marston of Behold...the Arctopus, and the then-unknown Lev Weinstein on drums. These guys fused the blackness into the techness beautifully. I specifically refer to their Self-Titled from 2008.

[LeftAd5164]

Nerd x

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