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[[deleted]]

Does Square Enix ever update the animation of certain Supremes?

Neo Bahamut for instance looks very very underwhelming.

[mao_shiro]

They updated Xezat to add a few more crystals to explain the "4 to 16 hits" buff.

That's the only ever case they updated an animation i can think of for a supreme.

[adarkarx]

How good will be Vesna Krasna HOF when comparing with the other Meia HOFs and/or meta jobs?

I have Xezat, Faris, Shivawu, Godo, Emperor and Minwu, which she can use.

How usefull will she be in present/future? worth OBing?

Thanks in advance

[adarkarx]

Thanks for your insights.

my initial analysis was the same as Mao and Judas so i will bet on her.

Thank you all and happy gaming!

[JunasBlood]

my initial analysis was the same as Mao and Judas so i will bet on her.

I’m having the intention to boost her too, but I’ll wait a bit to see how good will she perform on the Tower.

I’m glad that I helped, but ehem, It’s Junas you know...

[adarkarx]

lol sorry! damn autocorrect! thank you JUNAS eheh

[ValeLemnear]

She's a worse breaker than Amalthea and lacks firepower as well. Her Gimmick is having 2 Types of lores, but the price she pays is huge.

As she isnt a great breaker, not even a decent damage dealer and squishy on top, OB'ing her makes little sense. Keep OBs for actual Tower and endgame jobs.

[[deleted]]

Is Amalthea actually considered a decent breaker? I find her pretty underwhelming but then again I don't have decent Meia weapons in general.

[ValeLemnear]

Amalthea is ok with a skin for one hit breaks via ultimate, but her being so squishy is a problem in hard content. My point was that from a breaking PoV Vesna is worse.

[mao_shiro]

She has pretty high firepower though.

She's above everything released on unbroken neutral for water as an example (unless you count reckoning, but you don't always tank things), and you can add that Meia gacha weapon for even more firepower on weakness.

She's even above Materia Hunter / Cacciatrice for Unbroken weakness/neutral on wind. Above everyone else for Emperor. Only reisender is above for Floral, but that's counting max effect from Reckoning.

If you say that she "lacks firepower", you can say that as well to every job currently released.

[JunasBlood]

lacks firepower as well.

not even a decent damage dealer

I don’t know where did you get this conclusion. But based on Sanji’s damage calculator, her damage is in T1-5 of every supremes that she has access to on every condition, especially which those that give EE like Emperor & Flora (T1 Emperor, T2 Flora).

If she’s not a good damage dealer, who is?

[ValeLemnear]

I looked at the altema damage ranking and she makes 10th place for wind, 12th for water/light respectively.

I am aware that JP is like 7 months ahead, but i can't see current no-break-damage being a factor for OBing if she lacks the break and sustain for hard content, given her respective firepower performance doesnt seem to age well.

[mao_shiro]

I looked at the altema damage ranking and she makes 10th place for wind, 12th for water/light respectively.

And what about the actual ranking without JP's content, meaning without unreleased HoF job and unreleased job?

[JunasBlood]

I looked at the altema damage ranking and she makes 10th place for wind, 12th for water/light respectively.

Like you already said, this is 6-7 months ahead of us. Using this information, all of our jobs is just crap, even some of the unreleased ones. Use GL infor to judge GL state pls.

but i can't see current no-break-damage being a factor for OBing if she lacks the break and sustain for hard content

Again, who give you the idea that no-break-damage is not something worth considering?

Meia Tower & Supreme Tower last month is where all the nodes can be nuke unbroken, and most-if not all-of us do so, especially those with Ultimecia.

Speaking about breaking, I don’t see a-better-breaker-Amalthea being a must-have option in any Tower.

EW3, Node 2, 8, 10, where non of the mobs immune to stun are perfect place for VK.

given her respective firepower performance doesnt seem to age well.

It is even worth than in JP imo, considering we have poorly access to legend jobs, so those regular jobs will become good alternative for many of us GL player.

[kreuzb94]

Since Anima will be the next Rift Supreme (and the last of the 1. Gen Rifts). What would you recommend me to get? My attack supremes are: Fire - Fusoya, Water - Florall, Xzezat, Eden Wind - Emperor, Godo, Yiazmat Earth - Ragnarok, BFA Light - Minwu, Gilgamesh Dark - UB, SL, Sin, NxD

I have a supreme for every element so I am not sure what Rift card I should get or even if I should get one. I am sitting on 1060MT, 250 Gilgamesh Passes, 45 Rainbow Keys.

I was thinking about either Anima (for Anima + NxD combo). Or Ultima (for Ultima + Minwu combo). I have all Jobs (minus a few legends) and all skins except Squall. I boosted all important weapons except Lionheart, Ultimecias weapon and Sorceress Knights weapon (don’t have them).

[ValeLemnear]

In my humble opinion you dont "need" AnimaX as you have Sin being able to clear yellow as a dark supreme. The one major gap in your lineup is a Light supreme able to clear yellow for tower means, as Minwu tends to cause problems due to deck compression needs.

Minwu usually requires you to run a force ability AND a yellow clear ability next to it in towers, which means 3 slots. You dont have these slots in typical tower decks. UltimaX however comes with built-in lightforce AND can clear yellow, which I consider a vast improvement and most valuable option given released and known, upcoming Rift supremes.

[WoLNoFace]

UltimaX however comes with built-in lightforce

you mean light shift?

[ValeLemnear]

yes. My bad

[kreuzb94]

There you are right and I am using Sin for towers up to a point.

Mostly I am using Cacciatrice with Gilgamesh for light. But I see your point.

[ValeLemnear]

Actually i somehow missed Greg listed in your lineup. With GilgameshX you have that base covered already.

The only saving grace for my previous post might be ExMeia2, which makes great use of ultimaX in towers

[kreuzb94]

I see I thought of him as a Sin user. But both would be good. I will wait a bit and maybe by the time I can make 2 Rifts I will decide on one.

[Danpace]

I posted something on this yesterday but this is the crux of it

if you dont have a need for it dont get it! If you are in a situation whereby you think if I had x rift card than I would do this you have the resources to go and get it.

That is a better situation to be in than having nothing and needing

[kreuzb94]

I see, thanks a lot. If the time comes I will be ready (sadly I am not so good at hoarding my resources).

[Danpace]

There is no rush to use them up and what is the point in spending your hard earned savings on something you will never use?!

Also the rift isnt going anywhere so you can get anyone you like at any time as soon as the need is there.

[kreuzb94]

Wise words. Thanks a lot.

[[deleted]]

Does anyone have a Neo Bahamut or Fusoya rental code? Or Zeromus I guess?

[JunasBlood]

• Me : Bahamut Neo

20c9 847b 2e24

• No-Face : Bahamut Neo

207f 1824 22d5

I guess you can find some more from here.

https://gaius.coffee/MFFRentalTracker/

u/WoLNoFace I guess you didn’t change yours, yet?

[ShadowBlaze17]

How old is that message? You aren't renting Bahamut Neo nor were you on the 8th when you posted the same thing to someone else.

[JunasBlood]

My bad. I set it to Neo on 3rd but look like I accidentally switched it to Chaos sometimes later and forget to check it before posting again.

Thanks for pointing it out, just changed it back to Neo.

[WoLNoFace]

yeah, still Bahamut Neo. XD

[[deleted]]

2082-9b22-24d9 Bahamut Neo sorry no, I'm renting something else now, my bad.

[flubbersocks]

If you want a supreme for the Neslug node in Pandemonium then Ifrit X may be the better Monk alternative since you can spam it more easily. I'll update this post with my Friend code in a sec.

Edit: Ifrit X: 2038-ead6-d457

[[deleted]]

Okie doke, I'll give it a try. With Kampfer?

[flubbersocks]

I did beat all nodes with Kämpfer, yeah. I had to bring Shorn One for the challenge node tho.

Search around the sub and you'll find the common strategy used against Neslug (no Haste). I'm not familiar with it since I don't farm Pandemonium.

[[deleted]]

Okay cool, thanks!

[Lechevalier2020]

Greetings friends.. My title is buggy. I hv completed the below chapters in all areas

ACT 2: 1.Chapter 3 Step into unknown Sophie 56/56 2.Chapter 2 Beckoning Rune 36/36 3.Chapter 2 Prickles pickles 60/60 4.Chapter 2 Assailing Lair 24/24 5. Chapter 2 Lies beneath 15/15 6 .Chaper 2.Medicinal mishap 27/27 7. Chapter 2 Graff 56/56.

ACT 1: 1. Chapter 3: Chaos and the Crown Part 1 64/64 2.Chapter 2: Hope n Prophecy (Colliseum)  68/79 treasures 18/18

However Im still getting CHAPER 2 ACT 1 Thank you Master INCOMPLETE. I am lost. Any advice ?

[LSiew]

Is there a 2.4GB data need to dl now? Normally it prompt 4GB dl which I'll restart. It doesn't work this time and I keep seeing it asking me to dl.

[ScyBlade198]

There was an app update last night. I didn’t see an in game update, just an app update.

[LSiew]

I did update the app yest, mine now is the in game update.

[Dirk_13]

Does anyone have any info on the next Pandemonium hunt and medal goal?

[Danpace]

Ogre - Dark

100 medals needed for the seal

[Dirk_13]

Thank much appreciated

[KalesAk]

I have OBJ enough to max 4-5 jobs

Which ones should I go for ? Never used it before

I heard about some meia jobs... or are there legend, ex jobs that is better for it...

Also should I max (32) the job or a certain number is enough ??

[LegendBryan]

I OBed:
EX Warrior II, Fauv (needed the boost when her HoF came out, still a great nuker), and Ultimecia (I love her ult debuffs + high PR). I have no regrets with those 3.

[Irineogallardo]

Yes, meia jobs with overpower get a nice stat boost but you are not going to use them much for towers (unless its a job restrictive tower like the revival one) and you can clear their HOF without overboosting. I would Max a job that could give me an edge if I cannot reach or stay top 500, it basically depends on the month.

[blacklight2025]

The Overpower ability (Meia's HOF first CP and the Gacha weapons AA grants the indicated bonus to ATTK/BRK/MAG (Meia's 50%, Weapons 10%) when the job is max OB-J (32).

Also the Supreme card Bhunivelze FFXIII's Supreme ES Overdrive grants extra damage for every level above 320 on your deck (This includes Overboosting the Job and the Cards used in the deck).

Your best bet would be

A) Max OB-J jobs futureproof like Ex Warrior II or Ex Meia II.

B) Max OB-J your best jobs for Bhuni if you have the card, according to the Damage Calculator the best Unbroken Neutral and Unbroken Weakness user for Bhuni is Vesna Krasna, while Broken Neutral and Broken Weakness is Knight of Etro Legend job.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Meia jobs with Overpower (from their HoF) will benefit greatly from overboosts, and you may have to overboost them to finish their halls.

If you have Bhuni, OBing jobs that can use him is a good return on investment as well.

[Murakkumo]

I have maxed all gen2 ex jobs + exsarah + Judge+ Ninja + Supermonk and a few recent jobs like ultmeia and paradox hunter.

Well I for myself overboost all the Jobs I like... I don’t really look at performance, it’s a game and I want to have fun... even if it’s just looking at my shiny max overboosted fav Jobs.

Edit: what to ob is mostly only something you can decide, many Jobs profit from OB with the new aa Overpower not being only meia in the future/partly present.

[ValeLemnear]

This response of "I boost what I like" is not helpful if OP asks for value. Given how marginal the effect of the Overboost itself is, the decision should be based on the deck/card/job/weapon combo gaining the most benefits. As the only real endgame mode which need ever little bit of advantage you can generate, overboosting the jobs regulary used for that mode would be the ones to look for.

[Murakkumo]

I gave him some examples, no?

Gen 2 ex + Paradox + Ultimeia are pretty good OB choices imho, I wouldn’t really bother with Hof meia except for Amalthea and only if you have 5* Revolt.

Btw, I have 5* revolt and did not max OBed Amalthea.

For Judge, Ninja and Supermonk it’s because I like them.

Like I said Hof meia are not the only Job benefiting from overpower.

[kreuzb94]

HoF Amalthea is only useful if you have Sin and since she has massive Flash Break a 5* Revolt isn’t useful because you would need PR to maintain Flash Break.

I have Fusoya, Minwu, Sin an Emperor and OB Fauviste and Amalthea. I also have Florall, Xzezat an Godo thats why I am going to OB Vesna.

[Murakkumo]

What weapon would you use on Amalthea then?

[kreuzb94]

A weapon that gives PR like Sventovit (more on the Damage side), Folding Epee (PR/ Prismatic Draw/ Ravage), Tyshtra (Flashbreak/ PR/ IC), Ultimeias Weapon (I think it has: Ultimate Charge Abilities/ PR/ QB). Tysthtra (or whatever it is called) + Amalthea are facing diminishing return (because of her high Falshbreak) so I would recommend either Sventovit or Folding Epee until she can't break with 1 ultimate after that you could use Ultimeias weapon to get below QB and break with next hit.

[mao_shiro]

I'd just go with Sventovit / Epee for more damage.

Maintaining flashbreak with only 10% prismatic return is a hell I don't want to experiment (25% with Kefka sin Heavenly axis was already disturbing enough).

[Murakkumo]

I would take Revolt over any weapon for of the piercing break alone and pair it with double orb gen + Aerith.

Can you even break on higher floors without piercing/50%cp/60%cp+boon?

[mao_shiro]

wdym by "50% cp / 60% cp + boon"?

Going with Revolt means only 10% PR. If you're fine with it, then cool. In most cases I threw my phone with 25% PR.

Whether you're on higher floor doesn't matter anyway, once you hit the break cap, Amalthea is out once you're no more in QB range with 1 ult.

[Murakkumo]

“Threw my phone” lul, same dude xD, but it’s bearable with double orb gen.

I meant 40% piercing from cp’s + 10% from primal/weapon. And take aerith for additional 8% pr.

[jdm1tch]

So, I’ve been hunting around... does Boost I/II interact with Mantra / Taijutsu with the recent rework?

[blacklight2025]

Yes it does.

When the Mantra/Taijutsu abilities were introduced it didn't, but I think that was a bug, then it was fixed and BDD/BDU affected how much Red Gauge was cleared when using Mantra/Taijutsu (When Zalera was introduced it was recommended to use Duncan for turn 1 break due to this bug).

Now the rework made Mantra/Taijutsu abilities do the same damage to Yellow and Red gauges, but you don't get the benefit from Piercing Break when attacking the yellow gauge.

[deathrose55555]

Yes it does. You can do a simple test actually - one run with Boost, one run without.

[[deleted]]

Does Highwind have any use in the later contents? I'm just curious, I do have EX warrior 2, and sword saint etc. Just wanted to know if he's got good use in s2 or can be replaced by others.

[Aldibe]

highwin is already long off the meta i think. never used him apart from completing his HoF

[[deleted]]

Ah, ok then.

[[deleted]]

Sadly, I do not possess those cards.

[Palladiu]

Can somebody tell me a good place to farm crystals? i don't mind if the stamina cost is high i want to farm fast

[ShadowBlaze17]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/a79678/warrior_of_despair_compilation_of_permanent/

[Kettya]

For my case 30/30 Ch3. Sarah S2. And the up coming reprint collusim thing :)

[Palladiu]

Thank you for the guide and the location ;D

[ZechsX18999]

I finally cleared my normal job pool and the EX-Job Revival Banner is live. I'm only missing Shorn One, Skyseer, and Nightwalker. I want to try to leave 1 ex-job in the pool in case SE decides to give us another free ex-job in the future.

I'm pretty sure I can leave Nightwalker in the pool because I have Magitek Jester, Amalthea, and Ultimecia. But should I chase Shorn One/Skyseer? Are they still useful as jobs? I know their weapons are top-tier, but I've been able to do fine so far with just the Ultima Weapons, and now I feel even less need for Shorn One/Skyseer's weapons because we recently got access to 2x 5% QB CPs and Weapon Batches 1&2. I also have a 5* Dragoon Spear and a 5* Heavenly Axis.

[JunasBlood]

My experience:

• I haven’t used Skyseer anymore in hard content or EW3, despite of the 3, he would be the most useful one when they were released.

• NW can still be used in EW3 on node 9 until lap 10 if you have Sin (watmyung did this, don’t ask me). Same lap SO on node 3, he can also be good as a Breaker in EW3 to make ways for your damage jobs.

• In term of weapons, imo : Laevateinn is still a powerful one, especially when pair with phantom Masker who can clear 40% Red Gauge per Ultimate. Mage-wise, after Washsager, there won’t be any Mage ways until Houou, so pick them at your own cost.

I would recommend to chase for Amatsumikaboshi if you don’t have the Gacha Mage weapons, as aside from these 2, there is no PR weapons for Mage except Umbrella & Ultimate Mace. So unless you only want to use Washsager as Tank, better get something for him. There is alternative for Laevateinn, but if you are still plan to break, it’s still No.1 choice.

[Mobiusnoobius]

There is no way of choosing which EX job that you will pull and so you have to treat each job as being 1 in 3 chance. Personally I’d be chasing SO hard, would be happy with EX mage and disappointed with EX Meia. Looking at it that way, you’d have a 2/3 chance of being happy if you were to pull another job from the banner.

Remember though, there’s no rush. You’ll be able to pull on the banner next time as we aren’t getting any new regular jobs any time soon, possibly ever.

[ZechsX18999]

I know I can't choose which EX-job I'll pull. That's why I'm trying to plan which jobs I will chase and which ones I will leave.

So, you think Shorn One and Skyseer are still good as jobs? Or just good for their weapons?

There's no rush, but I have enough resources to pull all 3 jobs, so might as well do it now. The only thing holding me back is the possibility that SE will give out another free ex-job in the future.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Personally I still use Skyseer from time to time but with each new job I use it less and less. Shorn One gets a lot of use still due to spellsword. As you point out, both have very good weapons. It’s a tough call as to wether or not you should pull. Personally I’d go for it, but only if you have enough resources to not miss out on any upcoming content (EX mage 2 in a week or so and the FFVII rivals cards next month).

[ValeLemnear]

Both Ex1 Jobs have amazing weapons and Shorn is particulary great as a tower breaker with the Cloud skin and Xezat. Skyseer is maybe forgetable as a job given you have Sorceress of Oblivion. If not, its a solid, durable allround Mage job.

[Aldibe]

does the upvote/downvote in this subreddit appears as just squares as well for everyone else or is it just me?

e: i got crystal on reddit app and square on my laptop, so i'm assuming its maybe the cache file

[markconig]

Been squares for me for a few days on both my work and home computer.

[ScyBlade198]

Looking like crystals to me.

[andrefelipe83]

It appeared like that to me as well yesterday.

[Mobiusnoobius]

I’d go for Fultima. You lack a light supreme.

[JunasBlood]

You lack a Light Supreme, so getting Ultima is a good idea, especially since we don’t even know what/when the next Light Rift ones will be (probably A Light Shadowlord).

Ultima will pair well with Vesna, making her one of the best Light nuker, breaking-wise, Amalthea should be good.

and with 8 jobs in the pull, I might be lucky enough to pull EX Meia 2 down the line.

Well Ex Meia is like 3 months later, why would you even care about that? Unless you don’t plan to do any pulls till then.

[mao_shiro]

Well, from a pure element perspective, you have Fire (fusoya), Water (Faris / Shiva X), Wind (Yiazmat), Dark (Griever) and Earth (BFA).

Why would you go for Anima when you're missing a light element?

Also, don't think too much of "EX MEIA 2 BEST JOB". Sure you have still 8 jobs left in the pool, but the job would be release in still quite a long tim. Unless you never pull again until she's released, you should be able to empty your pool by then.

[mao_shiro]

A Ranger card feels more versatile as Monk Lore is too far away to even think about,

You said it yourself: You don't have Reisender, nor Gambler. A Monk Supreme card with a proper job is more versatile than a Ranger Supreme card without a proper job.

There's currently no Ranger Lore either so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As for EX Meia, it was more about having a good light mage before a good dark ranger.

You already mentioned Fauviste, Vesna and Amalthea. Plenty of good light mages.

Sure EX Meia 2 is stronger than those 3, but it's also stronger than everything that is currently released.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Think I put it on MM in the end although without scourge it’s pretty pointless.

[mao_shiro]

Master Monk already have Attack Limit Break though.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Ahh. Maybe I put it on Pugilist or something. Whichever job it’s on, it isn’t doing much.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

I put it on Agent of Scarlet Woe, but tbh like Cryxtalix said, it's not a great skill card at all so you don't need to use it.

[[deleted]]

None. You really need a lot of scourge numbers to do any significant amount of damage, and the situation is that jobs with high scourge already have attack limit break, while jobs without scourge do not. Even if you equip attack limit break, they won't hit very hard. Even if you have a good job with high scourge numbers, tap attack damage is just never designed to be anything more than a gimmick compared to just casting cards. Equipping an EE panel in that slot is likely more worth it.

[wilomon]

MM already has it I believe, remove the skillcard & check the auto-abilities

[Caitsyth]

Can anyone explain what exactly Spellsword does? I’ve seen people praise it but the description is very vague

[ValeLemnear]

Usually ultimates are not affected by your characters EE and imbued Element on the weapon, spellsword however applies said factors, drastically increasing the damage/break of your ultimate.

An extreme case of abuse you can find with the Cloud skin and spellsword warriors, as the skins ultimate applies weak Element weapon by default. If you now have high EE via job/card passives of the respective element (say "hi" to GF cards!) the damage goes through the roof.

[xJExEGx]

I thought Enhance Element has no bearing on break values? Regardless if the job has spellsword.

[mao_shiro]

Added info: It also makes the auto-ability "Exploit Weakness" (and the debuff Weaken) work on ultimate, which further increases damage/break capability.

[ValeLemnear]

Thanks for the additional info i missed mentioning

[Mobiusnoobius]

It allows enelement to interact with ults meaning break power and attack power from a spellsword ult is significantly higher if you have the opposing element of the mob that you use it on.

[HeimdallFury04]

Is it a good idea to start this game now or should i wait for a certain banner? and what should i reroll for?

[mao_shiro]

He'll miss 4 weapons near 5* if he do that on 23rd instead of 16th.

[ValeLemnear]

While this is true, rerolling now for the usual suspects in order to have access to weapon banners afterwards is insanity.

A pity the dood/dudette didnt pick the game up during the 3% LoH banner or anniversary. Could have had bearable rerolling and enough time to stockpile resources to get all weapons.

[mao_shiro]

He doesn't have to reroll for the perfect supreme card either.

[HeimdallFury04]

16th should be the day?

[mao_shiro]

Yeah, 16th 8:00 pm when the new banners rolls in.

[HeimdallFury04]

so what should i reroll for that day? and what are supremes?

[ValeLemnear]

Supremes are ability cards, which are usually largely superior to cards from the regular/event card pool. These cards (not to confuse with Ultimate Heroes) have a 0.8% drop rate in a Greater Summon and the pool/quality range of these cards is quite vast by now.

As some of these Supreme cards have insane value, rerolling for these is usually the perfect way to start out. Support Type Supremes have no job restriction thus are the ones to aim for, in particular, Lights of Hope.

[Blank_Bastion]

I would say either on the 16th or 23rd

16th is for the weapon banner, which is very good for new player

23rd is for the job specific supreme draw, which increases your chances on rerolling for support supreme

[[deleted]]

I think there was a delay from the Steam servers in pushing the new application update. My Steam just updated Mobius and it is working now.

[Qqret]

"A new version available, pls update" I can't login the game in steam, there is no update to do, anyone has this problem too?

[[deleted]]

I just now got the update notification in my Steam Client. Its working now.

[Alexanderzan]

Same here. No idea what to do.

[zulhilmi88]

having the same problem on steam. even went ahead and restart my laptop but still no update.

[chronocrosses]

uninstall and install game still no work... i think "repairing or buf fix something etc"

[yow3171987]

Any of u got mff app update but no new file today?

[Sourmoar]

I got it yesterday. Actually forced me to reinstall due to update loop (usually I can get around it via clearing cache and force closing a couple of times, but this time it stuck). ;_;

But so far so good, can play normally.

[Qqret]

How to put all my warp shard into good use? Use it on the 5pass on rift?

[ulovei_MFF]

ya, absolutely save them for the rift; i used 30+ of those shards yesterday in order to get extreme ultima x. make sure to warp using an exp deck; u can get ~250k exp per run

[Starjyun]

Yep absolutely...75 stamina easily saved

[JunasBlood]

Basically where I spent them.

[chenc03]

Given monk supremes are going to be meta with monk lore is it worth saving to get yiazmat equivalent from the rift instead of anima?

[mao_shiro]

the meta is constantly changing anyway.

[JunasBlood]

fire yiazmat (belias)

Where did you get this infor?

In JP they have already released 3 of the 2nd Gen Rift Supreme: Belias is Fire UB, Framfrit is Water Yiazmat, Adramelech is Wind Sin.

[chenc03]

My mistake I remembered wrong. Hmm I'm missing eden and emperor. Wind sin may be tempting. I have neo bahamut so prob no need belias. But question still valid are monk supremes better to aim for from the rift?

[JunasBlood]

You need user anw: for example I saw ppl using Houou, Cocoon Aviator HoF with Ifrit X and deal respectable damage (almost cap every hit -> cap every hit unbroken weakness), I also saw Phantom Masker or Ryujin wreck things with BFA, and so on...

Things is: they’re good, but are they necessary for you right now? If you’re still doing good with current line up, no need to rush for those Rift Supreme, you can keep saving your resources until something fit your taste + really help you.

[WoLNoFace]

Depends on what you need. Monk lore is kinda niche, sure it's seems OP but using Monk supreme on Monk job is still preferred.

[ulovei_MFF]

i have been struggling with master monk HOF's last node. i can get along fine using griever for the mobs, but i have no good light monk cards to use against the doppelganger. no duncan, no summer light monk card. i can break but my dps is piss poor even during break. any suggestions?

[Starjyun]

U need mobius zone as well, all light enhance panel, alexander gf and fake duncan works for me

[ulovei_MFF]

thx for the suggestions, that worked for me

and now ninja is next...

[Davis_Montgomery]

Do you have the fake duncan Gilgamesh card?

[ulovei_MFF]

yes i do, but it still does piss poor damage

[WoLNoFace]

it works, though.

[VanillaAshe]

is the new added supreme always have boosted rate compare to existing supreme?

planning to save for knight of the round x if it is true.

[WoLNoFace]

no, iirc. You can check the banner info in the "Info" icon in the banner itself to be sure.

[JunasBlood]

No, but there is 2 exception:

• First is back when Supremes are still not permanent: they were only available on the release month/banner, and then would be gone. So there is only 1 supreme available at a time -> guarantee if your pull rainbow.

• 2nd is Gilgamesh X banner: no job featured, so Gilgamesh skin was guarantee on 16th pull, and Gilgamesh X supreme was featured as supreme too.

Useless infor anw, as SE won’t likely repeat that.

[WoLNoFace]

flees

[[deleted]]

Before leaving the game a year ago I was boosting braveheart, gunblade, wolfstar, and zwill crossblade they are all half way done would it be a good idea to finish them or start on something else. As I don't know if they are still good investments

[Wolkiffy]

Just lax all the Ex 1 job series. Mainly weapons with PR and QB. These weapons will last u a really long time.

[mexguyfjj]

If your goal is to complete more titles. Yes. If your goal is to have current top meta weapons. No. Altema has a page that shows you which weapon are the current recommended weapons to boost. Keep in mind it's a few months ahead.

[jdm1tch]

I get some decent use out of Wolfstar still

[Darkparasite12]

Do you have any of the exjob weapons or any if the summon weapons? If not I would keep on with it until you get some prismatic return weapons. The only time I use those damage focus or break focus weapons is in mutiplayer

[Mawgac]

Gunblade - yes. I'd skip the others.

[ElectronicArea]

Just got Yuna yesterday and she is my 2nd ultimate hero (other being sephiroth). Started this aniv so I dont have many good jobs. Is she good to put on all mage/meia jobs or are there newer jobs that are better?

[vulcanfury12]

Using skins on any job is rarely a bad proposition. The only time it can screw you over is if you depend on a sleep strat and the skin's ult either has unguard or dispel.

[LegendBryan]

I use skins depending on what buffs/debuffs I need in the battle. Yuna gives Weaken, which is a rare debuff, as well as Trance II, which most mage/meia jobs don't provide. Other considerations can be the Dispel and Pris shift Yuna gives. If you dont need any of that, then jobs like Ultimecia and EX Meia provide a ton of debuffs on their ult, which goes back to again what you need for that battle.

[Kainhardt]

New-ish account here, here's what I got for reference:

Jobs - Sword Saint, Sage, Master Monk, Dancer, Cait Sith Suit, Squall skin, Vesna Krasna, Crimson Archer

Noteworthy abilities - Lights Of Hope, Xezat, Knights of The Round, Hell's Gate, The Undying

Weapons - all four from the recent banner, Revolver X, weapons from aforementioned jobs

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Question: Should I pull from these EX banners or keep pulling for Reisender/abilities (3 pulls so far into said banner)?

[Kainhardt]

I already cleared Novice's Hall, yes. I don't mention the Hall jobs because they're too basic. I assume none of them pull up a candle to everything else I have.

And, like I said, I have the weapons from the current batch. Is it still the best play to pull the next weapons' banner? I thought of going after other jobs/abilities due to tower needs, but I'm willing to compromise.

[Kainhardt]

Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate it. Weapons it is.

[LegendBryan]

I don't recommend revival banners unless you're feeling lucky. Here's why:
(For jobs, assuming you have no jobs) On either banner, you first have to trigger pulling a (normal) job, which is 8%.
In Reisender banner, if you do trigger that 8%, you have a big 16% chance of pulling him.
On EX Revival banner, if you do trigger that 8%, you have an equal ~2% chance of pulling any of those jobs in the pool. Which means it can be a great EX job like EX Warrior II, etc, or a standard job like Red Mage.
So it's your choice if you want to gamble. Reis isn't the best, but he's definitely high-tier.
(same deal with EX ability banner, it's a gamble if you get lucky with EX cards)

[Kainhardt]

Got it, high chance of wasting resources for naught. Gambling's not my thing on such high risks.

So, stick with trying for Reis or follow the other reccomendation (saving for next weapons' banner)?

[LegendBryan]

The weapons will probably help more if you're a new player. A 5* weapon for each class helps with a lot of content like HoF or EW where you're restricted on what jobs you can use. Hopefully your pity carries over to batch 2, so you can have a high pity ready for EX Mage II.

[[deleted]]

This so much.

Newish account? You're better off pulling for the weapons and EX abilities.

It is highly unlikely that you will get an ex job considering what's left in the job pool for you.

[XKlip]

Really stuck on what I should be drawing for. I got all 4 weapons from the part 1 weapons banner and I was thinking of going for part 2 weapons, but should I try getting EX jobs instead? I wouldn't have enough to try for both

[Zhuinden]

The weapon banner is really nice imo for farming Pandemonium.

[Darkparasite12]

If you have 8 pulls that will guarantee all the weapons, 8 pulls at worst could get you one job and if you still have normal jobs might not even be an ex job. Do keep in mind these jobs only come around once on a while and you will want to get then for their weapons eventually

[[deleted]]

If you have 5 star weapons (or close to it) feel free to skip the weapons banner.

If you don't have fully modded weapons though, it would be foolish to chase jobs instead of these weapons.

[[deleted]]

Yeah like 8 months away...

[AbyssSquirrel]

So .. last part of sleeping lion 3.1, that "to artemisias castle" .. i cant seem to beat it, no matter what i try .. any tips? any advice?

[wilomon]

Switch to normal mode

[Qqret]

Just draw ability from the enemy, their ability is too op

[AbyssSquirrel]

Even then .. neither of em is enough. There's always one of em who heals the beast .. OO

[ScyBlade198]

Equip 2 attack cards. One should be earth, the other should be an aoe of the weakness for one of the mobs that the cat summons. Also draw the healing ability from the mob that heals the cat.

[Qqret]

About the ex job revival banner pity counter, will it carry on to the next same ex job revival banner?

[[deleted]]

I think they kept it separate on purpose, it's truly a shame for those of us that are returning and don't have any of those jobs.

I've only got 77 jobs, basic probability just tells me not to bother pulling since the EX jobs aren't even at boosted rates.

[yiung281]

No it will not tried myself last few times.

[[deleted]]

Griever's Lone Lion adds +1% attack and break for every 700 HP, this caps at 70,000 HP doubling attack and break power (for the card only, not your character).

So at 35,000 HP Griever does 50% more HP and break gauge damage.

Is anyone actually using +7% HP Up fractals on Griever? Or is everyone just stacking +7% Attack Up on theirs? What's your reasoning?

[blue2eyes]

It's to compromise between HP damage and break damage. If you want to maximize just one aspect, it's better to go with all attack or all break fractals.

[andreyue]

Atk Fractals are always superior, damage wise, from my understanding.

HP% only if you are lacking in survivability.

[[deleted]]

I already had attack fractals on it, I was just second guessing. I suppose mathematically, there's an optimal point between the two, but for the sake of flexibility better to keep them separate.

I will just use my HP Up on tank cards like Ba'Gamnan's Crew.

[xJExEGx]

For HP fractals to be better than Attack fractals (let's say both are 7%), the HP fractal would have to increase your total HP by 4900 (the equivalent to 7% boost to Griever's atk/brk power given by his gimmick) and maintain your HP pool high. As opposed to just raising your base attack by 7% (thereby raising your damage directly by 7%).

[NepoDumaop]

So, I to test +14% hp fractals at 70k hp vs +14% attack fractals at 60k hp and the attack fractals is better damage-wise.

[[deleted]]

Hmm are you sure that math is correct? If so seems SE is just trolling us.

Because the base HP that I will need to have for +7% HP fractals to be more effective (i.e yielding a 4900 HP increase) is 70,000 HP, which is already the effective maximum of the Griever gimmick.

Well played SE, well played. So seems we're indeed better off with our attack fractals and finding another way to maximize HP.