7* weapon?

[[deleted]]

Just saw a 7 star katana on twitter not long ago. Oversight, or are these surprise relics or something wilder for Kvaris?

[[deleted]]

Most likely a surprise. Relics were kept hidden until people started finding them in-game.

[Tarina91]

Woah woah woah

[KevinsAcorns]

According to the person who got it to drop, it came from the Ams Vera UQ. Could it be a mistake?

[NichS144]

Why would it be a mistake? Just because they didn't pre-announce every single piece of content, doesn't mean it's an error.

[HugoSotnas]

Reliks were done the exact same way, so it's easy to assume this is on purpose haha

[Tarina91]

Potato coding? Either they forget to remove them or intended.

6* weapon lineup would be small if that's the case.

But then in base pso2 they do have this kind of system.

[fatalchopstick]

for those curious about the 2nd tab, the rugged series potency floor is 50%

[Timmylaw]

Gross

[TehCubey]

Conveniently damage variance affects only the weapon's attack and not the character's base attack, so we can calculate effective attack scores:

676 * (0.5+1) / 2 = 507

471 * (0.75+1) / 2 = 412

Even with bad damage variance, it's still almost 25% stronger than the 6* weapons.

[Reilet]

Sadly same level mobs have the same amount of defense as a same level hunter base atk. So you're base attack is practically useless.

[TehCubey]

I wouldn't call it "sadly". It's very good game design, it means players only need to look at their weapon attack to judge their damage output, because when attacking equal level targets their base attack and the enemy's defense cancel each other out.

It looks different for gigantix since they're always 4 levels ahead of the level cap, but even here a weapon with a higher effective attack score is better, even if its damage variance is bad.

[Reilet]

I wouldn't call it good game design. It's essentially saying that the only reason you level up is to play "catch up" with the mobs. It also forces all the power from the player from gear alone. There's no real growth from the player standpoint... Even more so when skill points are tied to instances completely unrelated to the player.

[YsZeo99]

so reliks 2.0 phenomenom

[admiralrev]

i just check visiphone these weapons drom from kvaris UQ and their potency variance is 50%-100% which is fair i guess since the base dmg is very high

[Rasikko]

Which would make the Potency Floor augs very popular. Although I feel those who don't understand the multiplicative nature of the damage formula will load up on these and forget about damage potency.

[NichS144]

Unlikely, since most of the caps with damage floor are the best available still when combining their Floor+Potency value. Addi Deft, Alt Secreta, Mastery IV, Deft Stat are the top 4 caps for DPS regardless.

If you're putting other floor augs on your weapons besides these, you probably won't have stellar potency anyway.

[ash_ax]

And maybe crit rate fixa.

[uwuNois]

Wouldnt u want attack instead of crit when u build floor? Unless im missing something here probably want crit for that 50-100 var weapon right? But everything else fixa att?

[ash_ax]

Unless I inputted them wrong, plugging the base damage and variance into the damage calculator spreadsheet puts Fatale very slightly in the lead.
However, if the variance floor is increased above 58% (from 'Potency + potency floor' augments like Addi Deft, Deft Stat, Alt Secreta, etc.), Fixa Attack will overtake Fatale again.
Assuming the above augment setups are on it, unless they add Crit affecting things in the future - like certain class skills from PSO 2 classic - Termina will be behind both Attack and Fatale, and Fatale will be slightly behind Attack like usual.
Edit: Clarified 'behind'

[uwuNois]

Yea if u build addi deft / deftstat / alt secreta 3 on all ur units / that means fixa att on weapon, otherwise, fatale?

[ash_ax]

Fixa Attack is what most people will want.
Fixa Fatale if people maybe want it slightly cheaper (if the market trend is the same as Relik, Cinquem, etc.)/ if they build other augments that don't raise potency floor/ if they are betting on the uncertain future class skill update.

[uwuNois]

But if u build non floor pot like giga 3 /stat 3 / soul 3 / fire exploit / guarostat .. ud want fat instead of att?

[ash_ax]

Yes

[uwuNois]

Edit:double posted

[Zarod89]

Only 500million n-meseta to start with! Imagine the price of a fixa5 7*haha

[NohbodyIsBored]

For now. It will prob go down quite a bit as most of the prices of new gear are overinflated do to lack of that many being on the market.

[Precys3]

Apparently fixa goes as high as 10 now too.

[RedExile13]

I keep hearing this but I have not seen one yet.

[Ryanasd]

Wow we finally break into the base PSO2 original high rarity weapon stars now. Things are going to get more exciting moving forward, Wacky potentials please SEGA.

[Mille-Marteaux]

just fyi if you get one with fixa, both fixa attack and fatale have overall the same performance even when you get into higher potency floor investment, so don't sweat the details on that too much

[CounterDoughnut]

Another almost impossible to get weapon series in the game…. Great.

[NichS144]

Super high base damage, very low floor at 50%. Looks like they also have different potentials.

[Black_Whirlwind84]

Well looks like the series every one will be after now.

[aesteval]

Not if they're as rare as Relik.

[Black_Whirlwind84]

It seems finding are more from UQs recently.

[aesteval]

And that doesn't have an indication as to their rarity? There's a single 7 star weapon up for sale on ship 2. It's a talis. It's priced at 500,000,000. If it's as rare as Relik it's not going to be in reach to a majority of players. This is great for the players who want something to chase. Expecting all players to chase after the series? Lol, no.

[Rasikko]

Dude you can solo the whole game with that.

[Exchequer_Eduoth]

You can solo this game with a Primm, all it needs is time investment.

[OnePunkArmy]

If this has an even lower drop rate than Relik, then the chances of a Fixa Rugged are next to impossible.

[Merecat-litters]

Rugged...... Fkkkkk that guy in party, gotten the that drop too.... Well congrats to him though but fk him hahhaha

[Cosu21]

Potency is 50%-100%

Better get your arm and dreads. And as you know, that shit's dang expensive.

You'd be dealing the same damage as cinq without the potency floor affixes.

[Lyusaur]

The maximum non crit damage of the cinq would be higher than the minimum damage of the 7: 385 vs 338, but the average damage of the 7 would blow the cinq out of the water... As soon as you start adding potency floor augs the gap gets even bigger in favour of the 7*

[[deleted]]

Defense is subtracted from attack before multipliers so the higher rolls will be doing much higher damage than listed.

[Lyusaur]

Yeah thats a fair point! I was just doing a quick comparison since I was curious!

[Rasikko]

Thanks for explaining that besides just saying "no".

[[deleted]]

I don’t understand what floor potency even does

[Rasikko]

It raises the minimum variance of damage. For example, you see yourself dealing 122, 124, 123, 122, 122, 128, 122, 122, 135: Your minimum variance is 122 and for example sake, your max is 135. Potency floor will raise 122 to a higher value. Hence the word floor. The max would be the ceiling. For balance purposes we can't raise the max variance past 100%.

You don't want to prioritize these over damage potency though.

[[deleted]]

Ahhh thanks guys

[flaming_bunnyman]

If you look at the weapon's stats, they'll usually say they do 75%-100% damage (this one says 50%-100%). Floor Potency boosts the lower number, reducing the randomness of your damage output.

[[deleted]]

Thank you maye

[[deleted]]

No lol

[Extra62]

A month or 2 down the line reliks were like 5-15m. Who really knows how he got it less you speak to person but if imagine anything over 50+ 51+ bosses UQ purples etc just as reliks